2014 Offseason Plans Thread

[Hambombs]

Do they play in Oakland? They can all die in a fire, metaphorically speaking.

Yes oracle is right next to where the a's play. I've been to both places

 

[RevSader]

Yes oracle is right next to where the a's play. I've been to both places

That was a rhetorical question.

 

[lainey12]

Here's some info on the Yankees and staying under the penalty threshold...
Jacoby Ellsbury contract & Yankees luxury tax ramifications - SBNation.com

not sure what to make of it, they could still sign Cano and stay under, but that leaves nothing else.

That's my interpretation....namely signing Cano, then they are out on Tanaka

 

[lainey12]

If this is old news, I apologize. Reportedly neither Boston or the Yankees will give Beltran more than two years.
of course there are others that would. Beltran is probably in the position where he doesn't care so much about playing for a contender, I'm speculating of course. Does he really care if he ends up with a team like the Royals, if he gets the years and the money?

My point is I'm losing faith that we would be able to sign him, assuming JD is not going to get into a bidding war for someone his age, and give him more years than he wants to

 

[scotsman1948]

We just net with choo yesterday

yes but are we willing to go 6 years $110-125M to get him? i don't think we're in

 

[darrylgann]

If this is old news, I apologize. Reportedly neither Boston or the Yankees will give Beltran more than two years.
of course there are others that would. Beltran is probably in the position where he doesn't care so much about playing for a contender, I'm speculating of course. Does he really care if he ends up with a team like the Royals, if he gets the years and the money?

My point is I'm losing faith that we would be able to sign him, assuming JD is not going to get into a bidding war for someone his age, and give him more years than he wants to

Three years doesn't seem a lot to me. And at one time JD wanted Beltran to come to Texas to talk as he did at KC. But there is decidedly lack of rumors coming out concerning Texas and Beltran. He'd seem perfect to me.

 

[donaldson79]

Three years doesn't seem a lot to me. And at one time JD wanted Beltran to come to Texas to talk as he did at KC. But there is decidedly lack of rumors coming out concerning Texas and Beltran. He'd seem perfect to me.

I'd give him 3 to come here. First, we need the LF spot (for the three thousandth time), his hitting - avg/power/situational ability, and perhaps overlooked, his leadership.

I don't underestimate the leadership he brings in the clubhouse. Beltre is great, but he's really the only one we've got right now.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

I'd give him 3 to come here. First, we need the LF spot (for the three thousandth time), his hitting - avg/power/situational ability, and perhaps overlooked, his leadership.

I don't underestimate the leadership he brings in the clubhouse. Beltre is great, but he's really the only one we've got right now.

I think it was Romeo who said something like that we should make the 3rd year an option which I am guessing is based on incentives and I think that would be a fair and wise thing to do.

 

[lainey12]

Three years doesn't seem a lot to me. And at one time JD wanted Beltran to come to Texas to talk as he did at KC. But there is decidedly lack of rumors coming out concerning Texas and Beltran. He'd seem perfect to me.

I initially said two with an option for a 3rd...I'm fine with 3 in light of how things might be shaking out.
Choo, with the Ellsbury signing, likely just watched his numbers go up.

and agree, I can't find anything about us and Beltran...but certainly JD is in there? just a matter of how high it gets
I can't think of a reason Beltran would not meet with us...could be private meetings
sigh

 

[jamesx122]

I initially said two with an option for a 3rd...I'm fine with 3 in light of how things might be shaking out.
Choo, with the Ellsbury signing, likely just watched his numbers go up.

and agree, I can't find anything about us and Beltran...but certainly JD is in there? just a matter of how high it gets
I can't think of a reason Beltran would not meet with us...could be private meetings
sigh

I'd take Beltran on a 2 year deal with an option for the 3rd year, but he'd most likely be the DH if we got him since his defense is understandably bad due to his age.

 

[lainey12]

I think it was Romeo who said something like that we should make the 3rd year an option which I am guessing is based on incentives and I think that would be a fair and wise thing to do.

Romeo might have said it, but I said 3rd/y option as well, now...just give him three

 

[lainey12]

I'd take Beltran on a 2 year deal with an option for the 3rd year, but he'd most likely be the DH if we got him since his defense is understandably bad due to his age.

fair, but...
I don't know that we have the luxury of worrying about his defense, we'll have Rios and Martin out there...that helps.

He does need to be rested, the Cards did it and it obviously worked.

 

[terpsfball09]

I just got told not to expect any significant moves from our part until the winter meetings. Some of the scouts don't even have to work again until then. So the only way there'd be a big move if it was completely on people who work above the scouts.

 

[lainey12]

I just got told not to expect any significant moves from our part until the winter meetings. Some of the scouts don't even have to work again until then. So the only way there'd be a big move if it was completely on people who work above the scouts.

But you wouldn't need a scout to sign someone like Beltran, correct?

 

[terpsfball09]

But you wouldn't need a scout to sign someone like Beltran, correct?

Correct. However, some scouts are immediately assigned to attend physicals on new free agent signings. Based on my friend's location, I doubt he would be one of them, but still.

I wouldn't expect us to sign Beltran at this point. He keeps telling me about people we are interested in and his name has only come up a couple of times.

 

[terpsfball09]

Usually the scouts are there for trade purposes, and for last second recommendations on an appropriate price range for FA's. But I wouldn't expect any FA signings until then either. There isn't really a point for someone to sign right now. They might as well wait for the meetings where all the GM's will be there because the stress and pressure to increase the price will be more clear

 

[lainey12]

Correct. However, some scouts are immediately assigned to attend physicals on new free agent signings. Based on my friend's location, I doubt he would be one of them, but still.

I wouldn't expect us to sign Beltran at this point. He keeps telling me about people we are interested in and his name has only come up a couple of times.

The more digging I do, the more it looks like he's going to KC, if we tried to trade for Butler they would want pitching/pitching prospects. If they would even trade him.

splat

 

[darrylgann]

Usually the scouts are there for trade purposes, and for last second recommendations on an appropriate price range for FA's. But I wouldn't expect any FA signings until then either. There isn't really a point for someone to sign right now. They might as well wait for the meetings where all the GM's will be there because the stress and pressure to increase the price will be more clear

I would have expected that too except for all the crap that went down yesterday. It got our hopes up that everything else would follow suit in the next few days. If your friend is not hearing Beltran's name banding about and Choo would be expensive, JD's gotta have some trades in mind. Thanks for the info.

 

[darrylgann]

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi [ame="[MEDIA=twitter]408358953370673152[/MEDIA]"]2m[/ame] Sources confirm MLB-NPB agreement near, with NPB clubs indicating they will accept $20 million maximum bid.

 

[donaldson79]

Beltran in left for 120 - give or take - 35+ @ DH, and then have Beltre as our # 4 OF. Can we live with this?