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MLB Daily Thread: 10:14:15- Win or Go Home

Clayton

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76 ER for lester (16 HR)
67 ER for lackey (21 HR)

so, its a difference of 9 total ER over 30+ starts, and lester gave up far fewer HR's in only 13 fewer IP
Still doesn't mean that the Cardinals were in a good spot with him starting game 1 with his sub 2 home ERA. The Cardinals lost because Jaime Garcia was awful in game 2...apparently he had a stomach bug. They also couldn't get back in the series because Siegrist got hammered by Rizzo and that might be a situational thing where Rizzo's ability to crowd the plate and turn gives Siegrist issues. Or maybe Siegrist is only a regular season 2.0 ERA guy and in the postseason he is something less.
 

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76 ER for lester (16 HR)
67 ER for lackey (21 HR)

so, its a difference of 9 total ER over 30+ starts, and lester gave up far fewer HR's in only 13 fewer IP

Again, It seems to me that you're implying that .7 of ERA is a small difference. Is that what you're doing?
 

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John Lackey >>> Chris Sale, right? After all, HE HAD A BETTER YEAR.

Go take a nap.

Dude, you said that Rick Porcello was going to dominate and lead the Red Sox to the World Series in 2015.

And I'm the one that should take a nap? You're an imbecile.
 

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Again, It seems to me that you're implying that .7 of ERA is a small difference. Is that what you're doing?
considering its 9 ER spread out over 30+ starts...yes.

and lester won 2 fewer games in 13 fewer IP, so the .7 ERA difference obviously had little to no impact.
 

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Wasn't the original argument that Lackey was the worst game 1 starter in the playoffs? (the game he dominated btw).

No, dumb ass. The argument has clearly always been about which pitcher I'd rather have for 2016 forward, John Lackey or Chris Sale. . .
 

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Dude, you said that Rick Porcello was going to dominate and lead the Red Sox to the World Series in 2015.

And I'm the one that should take a nap? You're an imbecile.

After being right 99% of this argument, you got this one wrong Slinky.

You called Chapped DUDE.
 

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Dude, you said that Rick Porcello was going to dominate and lead the Red Sox to the World Series in 2015.

And I'm the one that should take a nap? You're an imbecile.

Inventing something I didn't say to take the focus off your stupidity? It isn't working.

Lackey is better than Sale, right? After all, 2015 is all that matters? I'm only following your rules here!
 

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Didn't Gallardo start game 1 for Texas? I didn't see him listed anywhere.

That's because they had to use Hamels to clinch the division. He's the real #1 for TEX(until Darvish comes back, anyway).
 

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Wasn't the original argument that Lackey was the worst game 1 starter in the playoffs? (the game he dominated btw).

Yes. He was the worst #1 starter for any team in the postseason. That's what I said initially.
 

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considering its 9 ER spread out over 30+ starts...yes.

In 2015, the best qualifying pitcher's ERA was 1.66, the worst's was 5.05. That's a spread of 3.39 between all qualified mlb pitchers, and your position is that .7 of ERA is inconsequential?

Also, just for accuracy's sake, the ERA difference between Lackey and Lester in 2015 was 0.57, not .7.
 

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No, dumb ass. The argument has clearly always been about which pitcher I'd rather have for 2016 forward, John Lackey or Chris Sale. . .

You said you'd start Lackey over Lester because he had the better year. I can only apply your logic and assume you'd feel the same about Sale. Right?
 

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That's because they had to use Hamels to clinch the division. He's the real #1 for TEX(until Darvish comes back, anyway).
I am aware of that. So you would rather have Gallardo starting game 1 or Lackey?
 

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In 2015, the best qualifying pitcher's ERA was 1.66, the worst's was 5.05. That's a spread of 3.39 between all qualified mlb pitchers, and your position is that .7 of ERA is inconsequential?

Also, just for accuracy's sake, the ERA difference between Lackey and Lester in 2015 was 0.57, not .7.
yeah, i typoed .57 originally.

regardless, my point stands. lester, to me, was the better pitcher in 2015. more K's, fewer HR's, lower WHIP.

ERA is something i can disregard in some cases, like this example.

3.34 ERA with more than a K/IP, lower WHIP...gimme
 

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Yes. He was the worst #1 starter for any team in the postseason. That's what I said initially.

I thought it was all about "game 1" starters? In which case Lackey would be an obvious choice over Gallardo. IMO.
 

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Inventing something I didn't say to take the focus off your stupidity? It isn't working.

Lackey is better than Sale, right? After all, 2015 is all that matters? I'm only following your rules here!

The Mets should have started Johan Santana in Game 1 against the Dodgers, because when you're evaluating pitchers for the 2015 postseason, what happened in 2008 is really important. I'm only following you're rules here, lady!
 

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yeah, i typoed .57 originally.

regardless, my point stands. lester, to me, was the better pitcher in 2015. more K's, fewer HR's, lower WHIP.

ERA is something i can disregard in some cases, like this example.

3.44 ERA with more than a K/IP, lower WHIP...gimme

I think you make a reasonable argument. You should put Chappee back in the box he came from until he learns something.
 
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