Where will ODB play next season?

NorEEzta · Dec 14, 2019

Shimmy shimmy ya, shimmy yam, shimmy yay.

Stakesarehigh · Dec 14, 2019

Ricky Roma said:
....and he'll be traded only a year after being previously being traded.....and he won't be traded because Cleveland is about to get a haul for him.

Cleveland will get less than it gave up.....and beyond some Haley's comet/once in a lifetime stupidity...it's not even debatable.

You started this conversation that the Browns would have to cut him. That is absurd. He is under contract until 2023 and it's a much easier blow than Antonio Brown was and he is far less a headcase.

Amari Cooper fetched a first rounder on a near expiring deal.

SteelersPride · Dec 14, 2019

dtgold88 said:
me - "point out what was said that was naive"
you - crickets (when you aren't agreeing with me)

Can't argue with irrational....though I tried.

You can’t change stupid, I’m not
Gonna try to again.

SteelersPride · Dec 14, 2019

Ricky Roma said:
It's a fact that J. Glazer has reported as such, and he's about as good as it gets with insider stuff.....

....vs. some Cle. fan that says 'that's not true' with nothing but hopes and dreams behind his/her contention.

Yeah....I'll stand on this one.

No! He has pages of posts to the contrary. If you say something that makes sense, well he says something naive.

SteelersPride · Dec 14, 2019

Stakesarehigh said:
You started this conversation that the Browns would have to cut him. That is absurd. He is under contract until 2023 and it's a much easier blow than Antonio Brown was and he is far less a headcase.

Amari Cooper fetched a first rounder on a near expiring deal.

Just wait.

SteelersPride · Dec 14, 2019

dtgold88 said:
Not sure, but if not for what they want they would just keep him.

Right, let the distractions continue.its good for the team :crazy:

NinerSickness · Dec 14, 2019

SteelersPride said:
Right, let the distractions continue.its good for the team

A slightly-related point: I don't think distractions are this team's problems. I think they chose a lightweight to be the head coach. Wasn't a fan of that move from day 1.

SteelersPride · Dec 14, 2019

NinerSickness said:
A slightly-related point: I don't think distractions are this team's problems. I think they chose a lightweight to be the head coach. Wasn't a fan of that move from day 1.

I think they part of it for sure. There’s many many issues imho. Not good when u have a talent laden young team. That their foundational years are a mess

Ricky Roma · Dec 15, 2019

Stakesarehigh said:
You started this conversation that the Browns would have to cut him. That is absurd. He is under contract until 2023 and it's a much easier blow than Antonio Brown was and he is far less a headcase.

Amari Cooper fetched a first rounder on a near expiring deal.

I originally phrased it badly...that is on me, I admit. I don't think they'll cut him outright, but I also don't think Cleveland will get in return what they gave up to get Beckham. Amari Cooper's trade really has nothing to do with it...that was Dallas/Oakland doing something stupid to trade a guy who is far less problematic than Beckham.

As I originally stated in this thread....I want nothing to do with OBJ in SF....and I'm sure there are a lot of others who feel similarly as I do in regards to their team as well.

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 15, 2019

dtgold88 said:
me - "what was said that was naive"
you -

everyone else - "He's toxic. He's asking to get out. There's reports & video evidence to support this"
you - "if you say so... unnamed sources"

Herpa derpity derp.

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 15, 2019

Ricky Roma said:
It's a fact that J. Glazer has reported as such, and he's about as good as it gets with insider stuff.....

....vs. some Cle. fan that says 'that's not true' with nothing but hopes and dreams behind his/her contention.

Yeah....I'll stand on this one.

Careful... You're talking to Mr. Gullible himself who is sporting his white knightly armor.

Not only are there reports, but theres a video of him talking with Jimmy G about it. But the homer still refutes it by saying his best friend (Landry) and captian (Baker) both claim that he wants to be in Cleveland.

Ricky Roma · Dec 15, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
Careful... You're talking to Mr. Gullible himself who is sporting his white knightly armor.

Not only are there reports, but theres a video of him talking with Jimmy G about it. But the homer still refutes it by saying his best friend (Landry) and captian (Baker) both claim that he wants to be in Cleveland.

Some people are just in denial, and I can somewhat understand. If you're a longtime Browns fan, heading into this season must've been almost like a dream...and to watch what has unfolded. As for that video with Garoppolo...yeah...I've seen it. Think about it. That's week 5, and he's already tapping out. Not year 5 in a shit-abyss of a franchise....week 5 of a team that is supposedly gonna turn it all around. That's a guy you want on your team?

No way.

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 15, 2019

Ricky Roma said:
Some people are just in denial, and I can somewhat understand. If you're a longtime Browns fan, heading into this season must've been almost like a dream...and to watch what has unfolded. As for that video with Garoppolo...yeah...I've seen it. Think about it. That's week 5, and he's already tapping out. Not year 5 in a shit-abyss of a franchise....week 5 of a team that is supposedly gonna turn it all around. That's a guy you want on your team?

No way.

Yea that's a pretty big slap in the face to all his teammates that are buying into building that team into a contender. Clearly his teammates are trying to salvage the relationship by sticking up for him. But if that relationship isn't a 2-way street then they would be best served to trade the guy. No way you want that sort of toxic poison to reside in your lockerroom.

As for the fans... Definitely. Most around here have been level-headed about it. Just 1 that doesn't have the mental resolve to digest it.

Ricky Roma · Dec 15, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
Yea that's a pretty big slap in the face to all his teammates that are buying into building that team into a contender. Clearly his teammates are trying to salvage the relationship by sticking up for him. But if that relationship isn't a 2-way street then they would be best served to trade the guy. No way you want that sort of toxic poison to reside in your lockerroom.

As for the fans... Definitely. Most around here have been level-headed about it. Just 1 that doesn't have the mental resolve to digest it.

The same problem on the Giants is the same problem on Cleveland....there are no respected vets on those teams who are willing to stand up to punks like OBJ and threaten to punch his face into next week if he keeps acting up. That one handed catch against Dallas was the beginning of the end - the 'fame' got to his head, and turned Beckham into 'OBJ' much like the Owens catch against the Packers in the playoffs started the transformation to 'T.O.'

For all the flack regarding Dave Gettleman about Daniel Jones and other guys complaining about him and whatnot....I don't care. He was absolutely right in getting rid of Beckham, and he'll be proven more right when he gets traded again....and again, or signs elsewhere via FA again...and again.

FaCe-LeE-uS · Dec 15, 2019

Jikkle said:
I'll bet he'll still be a Brown next year unless OBJ just makes it clear he wants no part of the team at all.

They'll likely fire Kitchens and they'll look for an offensive minded coach and hope they can salvage the situation next season and get on track.

Dorsey will listen to offers and I'm sure a team like the 9ers will be calling since they really wanted him last offseason but I don't think they'll get a package that'll be enough to move him.

Reports surfacing today that the Browns intend to stick with Kitchens.

Dr. Strangelove · Dec 15, 2019

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
Reports surfacing today that the Browns intend to stick with Kitchens.

Yeah, saw your post in the Browns thread. Makes one wonder if they will ever turn that franchise around. As for Odell and the rest of that team makeup, tons of talent but no real leadership or foundation to build on. And need to fix the trenches or all that talent is worthless. OBJ is what he is, a diva WR. Always will be. Would not be one bit surprised to see his career go the same way as T.O. Bounce from team to team, never winning a ring and wearing out his welcome everywhere until teams just say fuck off.

dtgold88 · Dec 15, 2019

Ricky Roma said:
It's a fact that J. Glazer has reported as such, and he's about as good as it gets with insider stuff.....

....vs. some Cle. fan that says 'that's not true' with nothing but hopes and dreams behind his/her contention.

Yeah....I'll stand on this one.

Did all the anti Cleveland/OBJ critics lose ability to comprehend what they read and have rational discussion? Hopes and dreams? If they want to trade OBJ then go ahead. It's not as though they have to do it under anyone's terms but their own.

when did I say he doesn't want to leave? I said we don't know. I believe someone told Glazer he might want out. I also believe it's possible OBJ wants to remain in the spotlight and clearly this was a way to do it.

You get the Glazers of the world live for guys like you who will take everything they say as gospel. Glazer and those like him also reported they were told the Browns would draft Trubisky and that a friend of Dorsey said Dorsey will take Josh Allen. Browns were ripped at the time because of rumors. It was hilarious.

I do like the guy, but he does not have any accountability if he's wrong.

dtgold88 · Dec 15, 2019

Stakesarehigh said:
He went for a first and a young safety previously. When he's on he's arguably the best receiver in the league. And he's on a reasonable deal

I think they also traded a 3rd as well.

They wont get that much, but a 1st is possible, especially if it's from a team at the end of that round.

dtgold88 · Dec 15, 2019

Jikkle said:
I'll bet he'll still be a Brown next year unless OBJ just makes it clear he wants no part of the team at all.

They'll likely fire Kitchens and they'll look for an offensive minded coach and hope they can salvage the situation next season and get on track.

Dorsey will listen to offers and I'm sure a team like the 9ers will be calling since they really wanted him last offseason but I don't think they'll get a package that'll be enough to move him.

agree with everything but fire Kitchens. Dorsey strikes me as a guy with a huge ego and unless they lose out, I doubt he wants to admit he botched this decision. I think he's a near lock to stay if they get to 8-8.

I do think they may order to find a better QB coach. Part of me thinks they might order him to give up playcalling, but if that's the case why even keep him? That's the only reason he got the job.

dtgold88 · Dec 15, 2019

Ricky Roma said:
....and he'll be traded only a year after being previously being traded.....and he won't be traded because Cleveland is about to get a haul for him.

Cleveland will get less than it gave up.....and beyond some Haley's comet/once in a lifetime stupidity...it's not even debatable.

Agree with that last comment. IF they trade him almost zero chance they get back what they gave up.

Where will ODB play next season?

Where will Odell Beckham play next season?

Cleveland

New England

San Francisco

Oakland

Talk his way out of the NFL like AB

Behold: A Pale Horse

One day it will all make sense

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