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Michael Jordan is a fraud

tlance

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LOL.

So because LeBron got away with a few travels over the years he is not better than Kobe?

For any great player in any sport that has been around awhile, you can produce a highlight of them getting away with missed calls from refs.

Jordan and Kobe have gotten away with their share of things too.
 

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Wrong again. I said those not afraid to fail are ready to take that last shot.

I think your problem is in assuming that because LeBron has always been willing to pass that he was afraid to take the shot.

He has taken the shot plenty, proving that he isn’t afraid.

He has also passed to open shooters, and taken plenty of heat from uneducated people for doing so. Proving that he isn’t afraid to make the best possible basketball play in any situation.

That should be applauded, not criticized. MJ and Kobe actually would have better off passing in those situations more often. Would have forced defenses to respect alternative options more and give them better opportunities to score themselves.

Might have helped those last second percentages there.
 

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LOL.

So because LeBron got away with a few travels over the years he is not better than Kobe?

For any great player in any sport that has been around awhile, you can produce a highlight of them getting away with missed calls from refs.

Jordan and Kobe have gotten away with their share of things too.

That's just the icing on the cake. LeFlop and LeWhine are his other common nicknames.
 

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Simple question.
Last few seconds game on the line, who do you want with the ball?
LeBron (because he will either take the best shot or find the guy who has it)

then MJ

then Kobe (basically slightly worse MJ)

Are these the only choices? I'd put Magic and Bird right below LeBron here too
 

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LeBron (because he will either take the best shot or find the guy who has it)

then MJ

then Kobe (basically slightly worse MJ)

Are these the only choices? I'd put Magic and Bird right below LeBron here too
I'll respectfully disagree.
 

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Lol your own link proved my point dude. He isn't competing against one center for a rebound he is competing against the entire team. Massive difference in length teams can throw at guys now or even in the 90s than then.

And again, his field goal pct is Ben Wallace bad. He is literally Ben Wallace set 40 plus years earlier, playing on a stacked team with 8 to 10 teams at most playing.

He is a champ, for sure. But most overrated individual player in the history of sports
You are wrong again. Let’s review:
1. You said Russell was taller than everyone else by multiple inches. That’s wrong. I proved he was an average height center
2. You say there were 10 teams at most when he played, there were 12-14 in his last 3-4 titles

You keep saying incorrect narratives then try to dance and move the goalposts when you get busted
 

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You are wrong again. Let’s review:
1. You said Russell was taller than everyone else by multiple inches. That’s wrong. I proved he was an average height center
2. You say there were 10 teams at most when he played, there were 12-14 in his last 3-4 titles

You keep saying incorrect narratives then try to dance and move the goalposts when you get busted

I was very clear in specifying his first 7 seasons. Even still my point stands that he is the most overrated athlete of all time.
 

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Only among circles of the haters.

Calling him one of those names only makes the people who use them look bad.
Indeed, it lets me know a person is incapable of adult discussion.. and that goes for any person being talked about going either direction in sports, politics, etc. I don’t get why people do it.. they only discredit themselves and waste their time
 

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I mean that is just embarrassing.

What's even worse is every time LeWhine is called, he is screaming at the refs like he didn't do anything wrong, lol.

I don't remember Jordan or Kobe ever doing that... nor do I remember them not dribbling the ball half the time.
 

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Only among circles of the haters.

Calling him one of those names only makes the people who use them look bad.

Whatever dude... even the other players are calling him out for it, because it's so common.

I have nothing against LeBron, but he's definitely a giant flopper and whiner on the court and one of the most arrogant douches in all of sports history... but hey, doesn't mean I hate him.
 

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Simple question.
Last few seconds game on the line, who do you want with the ball?

LeBron. And I already mentioned that he has a better clutch FG% than Kobe. But you ignored that.

You also gonna ignore that LeBron averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, has a better FG% + a better 3-point %?

And don't forget to ignore the fact that LeBron's made all star games & has more 1st team all NBA selection.

So how exactly is Kobe better?
 

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LeBron. And I already mentioned that he has a better clutch FG% than Kobe. But you ignored that.

You also gonna ignore that LeBron averages more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, has a better FG% + a better 3-point %?

And don't forget to ignore the fact that LeBron's made all star games & has more 1st team all NBA selection.

So how exactly is Kobe better?
He was better looking
 
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