Mariners 2023 - 2024 offseason thread

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Mariners.offering.minor.league.overpay.
For all.

 

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Hancock.( Replaced.with.askew)

Rojas(cabalero bliss)

johnaton.clase
(Mariners have to.go.free.
Agent)


Gabe Gonzales..
(Mariners have.r.j.shreck)

Mike arroyo.(mariners have roberto.cova.)
Johnny farmelo..( mariners have.curt Washington)

 

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Mariners.offering.minor.league.overpay.
For all.

And marry..Christmas..
To.
All .

 

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Line up..
1crawford..ss.L/L.
2.julio..........cf.

3.kerry.carpenter...rf...L/L.
4.harold Ramirez..dh.
5.josh.naylor......1b......L/L

6.france...,............3b
7..raliegh...........cat/swit.
8.canzone......,....LF..L/L
9.urias..................2b.

Bench..
Zavala..cat.
Moore......ss utility.
Estuary..ruiz..cf .rabbit.
Shenton...,1b/3b/.dh.L/L

At Tacoma.
Caballero
Bliss..

At Arkansas .
Locklear..1b/3b
Windash..2b
Cole young

Mariners..would have 2.
300.hitters..texas.only.1..
Lololololo..
Plus I save.all.the money.
For a pitcher..
Lolololoo

 

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Mariners really.need.to trade.
From the bottom..
Of the minors.pool..
Cuz they will have an
Other draft class coming..
All.
To soon ..
So.
Gonzales
Arroyo .
Are to maney.guys..
Additions .
With
Starling.aguilar ..2b/3b
No doubt coming this year.
And ricardo cova.ss.

And celestine .ss.. the next year..

 

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While I'm pissed off at owners .
It actually..could.get.done..
With.minor.
League...fiends..
Tampa.and Cleveland...

And a strait..carpenter.hancock.deal..

 

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If they can't get this..done.
Owners.
Need fired..

 

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List.of..free.agent.pitching

Jordan.montgomery..
James.paxton.
Alex wood..
Sean.meana..

 

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So. yeah if they can't get.it.
Done.
With minor league.overpay.

Then sabatage.needs to be. looked.into...
And an investigation..
Of ticket prices..
For what..is being payed for...

Something.or.
Nothing.

 

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Ulmax..

Over..and out . To chess.com.

As the baseball.turns..

 

[wazzu31]

I have no idea but this is what it says:

Diamond Sports Group LLC is an American media and entertainment company operating as a subsidiary of Sinclair Broadcast Group, and partnered with Allen Media Group. The company operates Bally Sports, a group of regional sports channels that was formerly known as the Fox Sports Networks.

And this:

Is Root Sports owned by AT&T?
have owned a majority stake in Root Sports NW since 2013, with AT&T SportsNet serving as a minority partner that "handles TV infrastructure and negotiates carriage deals for the RSN such as the one with Xfinity." A source said that Xfinity's recent renewal agreement with Root Sports saw the cable company "insist upon ...Oct 11, 2023

From the article from Divish, said Warner Bro Discovery were the 2nd biggest partners and were the one who produced the stuff? No idea

 

[NWinAZ]

From the article from Divish, said Warner Bro Discovery were the 2nd biggest partners and were the one who produced the stuff? No idea

Ya I read that as well and I am still confused by it all. How can all these rich people with the best business attorneys get in this situation? That is what confuses me.

What I am not sure of is, if Warner Bro is out as production company and Mariners take that over do Mariners gain extra ownership in Root? I believe they owned 60% and AT&T owned 40% bt I am not even sure on that anymore.

 

[NWinAZ]

Ya I read that as well and I am still confused by it all. How can all these rich people with the best business attorneys get in this situation? That is what confuses me.

What I am not sure of is, if Warner Bro is out as production company and Mariners take that over do Mariners gain extra ownership in Root? I believe they owned 60% and AT&T owned 40% bt I am not even sure on that anymore.

As I wrote here just last week, though:

Some teams (Twins, in particular) have even noted they are going to be reducing payroll because of the lower revenue expected from local TV (covered in the second link above), and the Padres took out a $50 million loan earlier this year to help meet payroll expenses.

That’s going to be the issue for not only the Twins and Padres, but for the 11 teams remaining on Bally Sports channels in 2024. Where is their revenue going to come from after 2024?

One team that has taken a different route is the Mariners, who recently took full team ownership of their RSN, ROOT Sports Northwest. Their issue, as per the headline of that article (“Mariners to take full control of ROOT Sports NW, clouding team’s financial outlook”) is that doing so is not necessarily a money-maker for the team. The writers of the article, Ryan Divish and Adam Jude of the Seattle Times, explain:

The uncertainty surrounding ROOT Sports comes on the heels of Comcast Xfinity’s announcement Oct. 10 that it was nearly doubling the cost of a subscription to the regional sports network, or RSN. That is projected to make a sizable dent in viewership for Mariners games next season, and the team will not receive an increased cut from Comcast’s rate hike.
Since Comcast’s announcement, the Mariners have shed some $44 million in player salary commitments. Notably, they traded popular third baseman Eugenio Suarez to the Arizona Diamondbacks and then included former top prospect Jarred Kelenic in a trade to the Atlanta Braves to rid themselves of the contracts owed to Marco Gonzales and Evan White.

 

[NWinAZ]

As I wrote here just last week, though:


That’s going to be the issue for not only the Twins and Padres, but for the 11 teams remaining on Bally Sports channels in 2024. Where is their revenue going to come from after 2024?

One team that has taken a different route is the Mariners, who recently took full team ownership of their RSN, ROOT Sports Northwest. Their issue, as per the headline of that article (“Mariners to take full control of ROOT Sports NW, clouding team’s financial outlook”) is that doing so is not necessarily a money-maker for the team. The writers of the article, Ryan Divish and Adam Jude of the Seattle Times, explain:

The Mariners will take full ownership of the ROOT Sports Northwestregional sports network on January 1, according to Ryan Divish and Adam Jude of the Seattle Times. The Mariners had already held a 71% share in ROOT Sports NW since 2013, and they'll now assume the 29% share previously held by Warner Bros.

 

[NWinAZ]

The Mariners will take full ownership of the ROOT Sports Northwestregional sports network on January 1, according to Ryan Divish and Adam Jude of the Seattle Times. The Mariners had already held a 71% share in ROOT Sports NW since 2013, and they'll now assume the 29% share previously held by Warner Bros.

In April 2013, the Seattle Mariners announced that they would acquire controlling interest in Root Sports Northwest, as part of a long-term extension of its contract with the team through the 2030 season. DirecTV remained a minority stakeholder and controlling partner, and the network continued to operate under the Root Sports brand.[10]

DirecTV was subsequently acquired by AT&T;[11] on July 14, 2017, its sister networks were re-branded as AT&T SportsNet. Root Sports Northwest did not adopt the AT&T SportsNet brand, likely because AT&T is not the majority owner of the service.[12][13] Nonetheless, Root Sports still introduced a rebranded version of AT&T SportsNet's new on-air graphics.[14]

Ahead of their 2021–22 seasons, Root Sports Northwest acquired the regional rights to both the Portland Trail Blazers of the NBA, and the Seattle Kraken, a new NHL expansion franchise which began play that season.[15][16]

In October 2021, Root Sports added an overflow channel, known as Root Sports Plus, to avoid scheduling conflicts with the Mariners, Kraken, and Blazers.[17] Also that month, Root Sports, along with sister networks AT&T SportsNet Pittsburgh, and AT&T SportsNet Rocky Mountain, was removed from Dish Network satellite and Sling streaming TV services.[18]

Despite the announcement that Warner Bros. Discovery would leave the regional sports network business in March 2023, Patrick Crumb, Seattle-based president of AT&T SportsNet operations, stated that Root Sports would not be affected by the changes, presumably due to its majority ownership by the Seattle Mariners.[19] In December of that year, the Seattle Times reported that the Mariners would acquire full control of Root Sports at the beginning of 2024.[20]

 

[NWinAZ]

I guess my major reason for posting all this Root crap is that I don't see it as a negative. Taking full ownership should give Mariners a brand new avenue to bigger and better things. Why not partner with Prime who is trying to buy RSN companies? Or set up their own streaming service and sell subscriptions per month or per season? There has to be an upside to this for them and hopefully for fans. I guess I am missing something....like always.

 

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I guess my major reason for posting all this Root crap is that I don't see it as a negative. Taking full ownership should give Mariners a brand new avenue to bigger and better things. Why not partner with Prime who is trying to buy RSN companies? Or set up their own streaming service and sell subscriptions per month or per season? There has to be an upside to this for them and hopefully for fans. I guess I am missing something....like always.

Yeah if you dont have to.
Buy a package ya get
Streaming is the deal .

I buy that .or any other streaming

..dump.packages.
Of what .i mostly..don't..

Want .

 

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Amazons..on the.cutting.
Edge..
Xfinity...is a has been.

 

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Amazon .taking up...
The slack...
Of stupidity .
Of some. companys..to.stay.on the cutting edge.
And keep moving..
Forward..
Xfinity...will dinosaur .and decay...
Like..k-mart.when..wall.mart.came..to..town..

 

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Sodo.mojo..
You way .off base..
They don't care if any.
Other team has pitching.
They not tradeing..
Woo..cuz.
Poor. Texas.
needs an arm.


Or anyone else..they have.
Minors.to trade from..
And .teams that.want.those.
Players ..