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AI was a stud. Offensive talent off the charts and probably one of the few players Jordan was a little sceert of. Haha

Defensively he was sneaky too. Top 10 all time in steals per game tied with Stockton

No doubt he’s top 5 players not to win one

Eh…

AI was not a good defensive player.

Got a ton of steals because he gambled a lot.

No issue putting him top 5 here, but it wasn’t because of his defense. AI easily the worst defender in this conversation.
 

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Eh…

AI was not a good defensive player.

Got a ton of steals because he gambled a lot.

No issue putting him top 5 here, but it wasn’t because of his defense. AI easily the worst defender in this conversation.

Lol. Top 10 in steals per game all time and he was not a good defensive player.

K
 

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Lesson #33


Defense is not just about locking down your opponent but anticipating your opponent and where the ball is going
 

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Lol. Top 10 in steals per game all time and he was not a good defensive player.

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He wasn’t.

Steals is a terrible way to view quality defense.

You are showing yourself to be a casual if you believe otherwise
 

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Lesson #33


Defense is not just about locking down your opponent but anticipating your opponent and where the ball is going

Except that AI didn’t lock down his opponent.
 

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He wasn’t.

Steals is a terrible way to view quality defense.

You are showing yourself to be a casual if you believe otherwise

That’s because you’re still into womens b-ball. Anticipation skills are way slower. AI was lightning quick and was big east defensive player of the year twice.


Lolol no one said steals = quality defense but it is a part of defense there sparky. You sure as hell cannot throw them out the window

:L
 

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Except that AI didn’t lock down his opponent.
More comedy. Try reading the post again


I love coming in here and slapping the girls b-ball right ouch your hands
 

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Maybe needed Stockton to be great is a little harsh, but I think he is super athlete Zach Randolph without him. Super good, but not all time elite like he gets credit for.
When I was around 12 years old and living in suburban Texas, we went to a college game at a tiny school called Lamar U. where they were playing Louisiana Tech. Tech had this giant kid who was clearly going to be legit in the NBA...Karl Malone. Lamar won in double OT in a tiny gym that was packed and to this day I have never been in a louder more frenzied sports crowd.
 

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That’s because you’re still into womens b-ball. Anticipation skills are way slower. AI was lightning quick and was big east defensive player of the year twice.


Lolol no one said steals = quality defense but it is a part of defense there sparky. You sure as hell cannot throw them out the window

:L

Do some research here man.

You are wrong.

AI had below average advanced defensive stats pretty much across the board.

He got steals, but allowed a lot of easy buckets too.

That doesn’t make someone a good defender overall.
 

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More comedy. Try reading the post again


I love coming in here and slapping the girls b-ball right ouch your hands

I have literally never coached girls.

And you are still wrong.
 

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Sooooooo

Anyways yeah I’ll give the nod to AI over Miller for a few reasons


That’s just me
 

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That’s because you’re still into womens b-ball. Anticipation skills are way slower. AI was lightning quick and was big east defensive player of the year twice.


Lolol no one said steals = quality defense but it is a part of defense there sparky. You sure as hell cannot throw them out the window

:L

He won Big East defensive player of the year.

But he was a liability defensively in the NBA.
 

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Sooooooo

Anyways yeah I’ll give the nod to AI over Miller for a few reasons


That’s just me

Me too.

Defense isn’t one of them.
 

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Do some research here man.

You are wrong.

AI had below average advanced defensive stats pretty much across the board.

He got steals, but allowed a lot of easy buckets too.

That doesn’t make someone a good defender overall.
No one said he was a great defensive player sparky.

Take some deep breaths lolol

The man was small in a big hella huge league. He’s not gonna lock anyone down he’s got to use his quickness cuz his strength isn’t there. But he’s still top 10 all time in steals per game
 

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He won Big East defensive player of the year.

But he was a liability defensively in the NBA.


Tell me some PGs that exposed him. I know Paxson and BJ did not lol
 

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Tell me some PGs that exposed him. I know Paxson and BJ did not lol

Paxson and BJ?

They are catch and shoot role players.

AI didn’t defend the other teams top guards. Snow did that.

You know why?
 

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Paxson and BJ?

They are catch and shoot role players.

AI didn’t defend the other teams top guards. Snow did that.

You know why?


Snow was a dam solid defender. AI matched up with other guards his size usually. So he’s not gonna be a huge liability


Lolol. You seem so dramatic

It’s just eating at you !!
 

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Tell me some PGs that exposed him. I know Paxson and BJ did not lol
Mark Jackson is one that I remember who always used to take him into the post and work him. AI was a liability at the defensive end. I watched almost every game he played as a Sixer. He found a way to make contributions at that end to try and offset what he would give up and that came in using his anticipation and speed to gamble and get into passing lanes. In regular season ball, you’ll get your fair share of lazy passes. Those get less frequent in the playoffs. Mark Jackson and others would back him down and shoot over him. Iverson’s defensive mind set became I might as well gamble on the pass lanes cause if I get posted it’s an average of 1.5 points per possession.

I love AI but he was a liability defensively. Like every stat, steals needs context and it’s only one piece of the puzzle.
 
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