Game Thread: Week 11: Hawks vs 49ers "Must Play Better" Thread

[Battlelyon]

But what if we win and take the Division?

 

[Battlelyon]

I can't believe the fuckin' Cardinals are leading the division....

Just don't think about it, treat it as it is not real.

 

[Judge Fudge]

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You heard me Bitch....................

 

[flyerhawk]

Knight and Jones looked like a competent backer group and as far as the Oline goes, If Geno would throw to the shorter routes he wouldnt face as much pressure PERIOD! they have at least 2 short routes every pass play but Geno ignores the drop off and anything with in 5 yards of the LoS. He also ignores Lockett WAY to much.

Hard to do quick throws on 5 step drop backs. Quick throws aren't useful when you are in 3rd and 10. Geno completed 78% of his pass attempts. He threw 4 times to the running backs and some other underneath routes.

You are just looking for ways to criticize Geno. The running game is still underperforming. It was a little better yesterday stll way too many runs for 2 or fewer yards. Not being able to get 2 feet on 4th down was embarrassingly bad.

The OL was noticeably better when Lucas was out there. Olu didn't noticably worse than Williams, which is encouraging.

Geno made a stupid error on his pick. No question about that. Trying to hard to make something happen when there wasn't anything there.

 

[JMR]

Shocking to pull off that win after all the errors earlier in the game. I thought for sure we were cooked after not being able to pick up a yard on 2 tries and turning it over on downs, but the D stepped up big time like they did much of the game.

 

[JMR]

Hard to do quick throws on 5 step drop backs. Quick throws aren't useful when you are in 3rd and 10. Geno completed 78% of his pass attempts. He threw 4 times to the running backs and some other underneath routes.

You are just looking for ways to criticize Geno. The running game is still underperforming. It was a little better yesterday stll way too many runs for 2 or fewer yards. Not being able to get 2 feet on 4th down was embarrassingly bad.

The OL was noticeably better when Lucas was out there. Olu didn't noticably worse than Williams, which is encouraging.

Geno made a stupid error on his pick. No question about that. Trying to hard to make something happen when there wasn't anything there.

Geno didn't have a bad game. He made a couple bad throws, but he generally made the plays that were there (with a couple exceptions).

 

[JMR]

A couple things that stuck out to me:

• Bosa going out was the turning point in the game. It's not that we were out of it before that, but we clearly had more success on offense with him on the sideline. In fact, both TDs came after Bosa left the game.
• I am starting to see the potential with AJ Barner as a pass catcher. He isn't going to be Travis Kelce or George Kittle, but he is tough to bring down, has reliable hands, and he isn't a completely plodding runner.
• JSN came up big again. He is working the intermediate routes better and with more frequency -- not just the quick stuff like most of last year and the early going of this one.
• Maybe it's been a quiet(er) year for Spoon, but he was studly yesterday.
• Did a mostly good job bottling up McCaffrey. Jones is playing pretty well at LB and hopefully is here beyond this season. He looks legit.
• Jauan Jennings??? It was maddening how we couldn't stop that guy, but he was really the only guy who was doing significant damage. We kept Deebo in check, and of course we caught a break with Kittle being out.

If the D keeps up this level of play, we'll stay in the playoff hunt.

 

[flyerhawk]

Geno didn't have a bad game. He made a couple bad throws, but he generally made the plays that were there (with a couple exceptions).

He played pretty well on the whole. He had a bad mistake on the pick. Maybe could have avoided a couple of the sacks, maybe not. The problem we have on pass pro is that the interior line gets mauled which crushes the pocket and reduces the escape lanes. How many times did Purdy exploit those lanes?

We need the run blocking to improve still. It was slightly better yesterday but not actually good. You can see a difference in outcomes when we start off a drive with 2nd and 7 or 6 rather than 2nd and 10 or 9. Getting behind schedule early limits what you can do.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

This game was a step forward in the right direction. Still lots of work to do. However even though the OL was so so, it is a good sign that it didn't get steam rolled with starting Olu and up against a good front seven. The OL still needs to make big improvement in the run game, to often the RBs are looking at a solid wall when trying to run. Big break for the OL when Bosa went out, made a noticeable difference on passing downs. The hope is the OL may be functional going forward with Lucas back.
The big change was the defense. Held McCaffery in check and the run defense was so much better.Also got good pressure on Purdy although Purdy when pressured was able to do damage with his scrambles.
Cards lead the division and with a victory next week against them the Seahawks could end up tied for the division lead. The thing is there is hope again. Yesterday was a must win game because a loss would of been the end of any hope and if we are being honest most of us expected the worse going into the game. This hope could be short lived because now next weeks game is a must win. Go Hawks!

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I hear some saying the OL did okay but I dunno... they still gave up 4 sacks and that's without Hargrave/Givens and Bosa for some of the game (and assuming he wasn't playing 100%). Even Cross got blown up on a play. The 49ers were definitely not at full strength on the DL. I'm not expecting much if anything out of the OL and I didn't see anything that changes my opinion in this game. Maybe Lucas found the fountain of youth and will magically stay healthy for several years and that will help. Olu with ANOTHER high snap? Yeesh (although from what I saw it hit Geno in the hands)

Our defense IMO played okay, but these multiple 3rd down conversions allowing these 8+ minute drives are getting a little maddening. 49ers were 7-11 on 3rd downs and that's without Aiyuk or Kittle... and probably a non-100% Williams. And CMAC will probably never be 100% again, the body can only take so much. Seattle still lost the TOP battle by 7 minutes (and the Os first drive was decent, we took 5 minutes, and then the 9ers responded and exhausted the 1st quarter lol). The interior pass rush still seems to be a bit of a problem. Hall especially gets great EDGE pressure, but there's nobody collapsing the middle so it's super easy for Purdy to step up and just run/take off like he did...

There was some good in this game. Run defense looks far better, JSN second big game in a row and really carried things on the final drive to win. Myers should've gotten a game ball with 2 50+ yarders that he made look easy, and were required to win the game... special teams was good in general. Witherspoon easily had his best game of this year with excellent plays on the ball. ONLY 4 penalties... which is SOMETHING, given Seattle is like the 2nd most penalized team in the last 10 years.

There was also some bad. OL was a little hit or miss. Run game never really got going. Grubb still can't call short yardage plays to save his life and Geno really needs to stop looking for deep passes 24/7... he had some shorter throws that were wide open, but chose to huck it. The underthrown pass to DK 1/1 deep early on could've easily been a pick if DK didn't come back for it. I don't think it was one of Geno's better games but he redeemed himself in the end. Our interior pass pressure seemed to be absent and QB contain didn't work at all... Hall had the easiest sack of his career after Purdy just fell over himself. Hall's speed is incredible coming off the edge but he's almost taking himself out of the play because we are not getting a very good push up the middle.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

But what if we win and take the Division?

He sits on McVey's porch begging him not to retire

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Next week is going to be important. Seahawks at home against division leading Cardinals, 49ers on the road against the Packers, Rams at home vs the Eagles. My oh my the possibilities are interesting. I'm getting excited about the season again, after feeling very deflated for a while.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Next week is going to be important. Seahawks at home against division leading Cardinals, 49ers on the road against the Packers, Rams at home vs the Eagles. My oh my the possibilities are interesting. I'm getting excited about the season again, after feeling very deflated for a while.

Can't have that let down game with division on the line. Defense looked good but need that offense to get going sooner rather than later.
Niners/Packers seems like a toss up
Rams/Eagles should be a Philly win unless Siriani fucks up and leaves points on the field which is a high possibility.

 

[flyerhawk]

Next week is going to be important. Seahawks at home against division leading Cardinals, 49ers on the road against the Packers, Rams at home vs the Eagles. My oh my the possibilities are interesting. I'm getting excited about the season again, after feeling very deflated for a while.

I'm glad we won but ultimately this team is, at best, a one and done in the playoffs. But I like that Macdonald is willing to change things on the fly. I like that Grubb is able to make half time adjustments. There is more work to be done but I think there is reason to be optimistic.

Now if JS can just swallow his arrogance and address the interior line, maybe we can get somewhere.