Way Too Early 2016 Offseason...draft, FA talk

[ATL96Steeler]

Been going over draft needs... IMO, the most obvious need is Safety. Mitchell is the only trustworthy starter. Will Allen wanted to retire last season but from a personal request from Mike Tomlin he decided to play again. The allure of the 7th Lombardi should be enough to entice anyone, but considering how close he was to retirement I have my doubts. Golden proved to be a capable player. He made a great leap this past year, so I would feel fairly comfortable with him as a starter. He's not a great talent, but he's capable. I'd feel more comfortable with him as a rotation player. That leaves Shamarko, Ventrone, Dangerfield & the Vinopal kid out of PITT. The ceiling on all 4 is ST. Sorry Shamarko, but you're "above the neck" skills are just nonexistent. There's a dim hope for you, but that door is almost shut.

Looking at the draft... There's almost zero chance they land a 1st round talent in the draft since there's really only one, Jalen Ramsey. He's projected to be top 10. So trading up is the only shot they would have at him. Outside of him I think Kearse (Clemson), Bell (Ohio St), or Cash (Duke) are borderline 1st rd talents. But more likely 2nd rounders. I'd much rather draft a stud O-lineman or D-lineman over any of those guys. In other words, BPA. I think if Colbert & Kahn can create some cap magic by retaining the majority of the FA's, then it's highly probable the team will try to move draft picks. Trading up seems very plausible this year given the team doesn't have any HUGE needs unless some of their FA's walk. The only glaring need is in the secondary. So for me, the options would either be trading up for Ramsey or signing a FA. If they don't want to trade up, then the FA pool has some interesting prospects out there.

1. Gipson CLE... Probably would demand the highest asking price out of the group.
2. Weddle SD... Probably too expensive, and getting up there in age
3. Nelson CIN... Age is a concern. Injury history.
4. Iloka CIN

I've also heard rumors that Jarius Byrd might become a cap casualty down in 'Nawlins.

I have a feeling that they are going to let some of their FA's walk this offseason. They have to be thinking about the future contracts of Le'Veon & Antonio. So signing a FA would have to come at a low cost. Only player on that list that seems worthy is Iloka. But is he that much better than Golden? Tough sell.

Other draft needs:

CB... Too risky to draft very high. 2nd Rd is the ceiling IMO. 3rd or 4th Rd more likely. Golsen is waiting in the wings to prove his worth. Cortez is a failure and lost all trust from the coaches. UC, but should be cut. Hopefully Willie Gay comes back relatively cheap. I'd like to say that Blake doesn't come back, but the love affair between him & Tomlin proved to be very strong. Gay, Cockrell, Golsen & Grant are good building blocks but outside of Gay its all question marks again. Keeping Boykin would be awesome, but I doubt he would want to return. He wanted to be a top CB, but got treated like a forgotten outcast here in PIT. Sad but true. If Boykin doesn't return, then throwing in a draft pick is a must.

OG/OT... Foster & Beachum are UFA. Would be wise to bring back Foster because of the cohesiveness & vet leadership, but he'll likely want around $3mil. If the FO gets down to brass tacks then he's probably going to be the odd man out. AVill made Beachum expendable so i don't think Beach comes back next season. Wallace & Hubbard are both capable replacements for Foster. Arguably just as good. That still would leave depth concerns. Mike Adams is a question mark. DeCastro is going to want to be paid like a top 10 OG soon, as he should be. That's who the FO has to be focused on. But they need new blood for depth regardless how FA shakes out.

D-Line... Previously noted by others, McLendon is a FA. He's a good player, but for how little he is used I don't see how they could justify paying him as much as he wants. McCullers could make the leap and fill the void. Even if they keep McLendon, that still leaves a lot of depth concerns. Heyward & Tuitt were logging over 90% of the defensive snaps. Sometimes close to 100%. You could see how gassed they were in the 4th quarter. That's a huge concern for me. They have young talent on-board, but its all question marks. Walton & Lyons are the only other DE's UC. I'd like to see what Walton does because he earned his spot IMO. But he needs to make a big leap to start logging meaningful snaps. Cam Thomas is a UFA, and I will be praying for him not to return. It would have been nice if Geathers hadn't gotten injured in TC last offseason. He would have been a huge boost to this defense. He's a UFA in 2016, so pending health he could be an option to bring back.

OLB... Dare I say another 1st rounder? lol not likely, but wouldn't be surprised. BPA candidate maybe. Harrison is mulling retirement. JJ is a proven pass rusher, but not very trustworthy in run coverage. Dupree is solid. Moats is still UC and as a great depth guy. He's sort of like JJ though, lacks the run-coverage presence. Don't forget that Z-man was waived but went unsigned so he got placed on PIT's IR. Not sure what that means, but I think the team has the option to bring him back? Still without Deebo there is a depth concern at this position.


Sorry for the long post... Got the week off from work so you might see some late night ramblings all week lol.

OL...I'd spend $3 mil per on Foster, but DeCastro might cost $5 mil...Avill may have made it possible to keep DeCastro & Foster...Would be surprised to see G taken early, I'm willing to roll with what Munchak tells them.

S/CB...Rumors of Grant moving to SS are turning into comments from Tomlin so I think they will go 100% in that direction...because the draft slot is 25...I'm a little more open to CB in the 1st round...Kendall Fuller from Vitech and Eli Apple from Ohio St that could be starters on this team...Tomlin will likely want to see c. Allen at camp before he gets released...the thought is the knee will be chronic.

Kearse...the size intrigues you, but I lost some interest in him watching that national championship game...he'll be gone before the Steelers pick in the 2nd, but I wouldn't chase him.

OLB...he won't be there, but if the injury pushed Mack down to 25...I would think about it....another fast LB with big impact potential. Whether Deebo retires of not, Look for JJ & Bud to move into the 40-45 snap count this year. I think Butler likes this rotation at OLB.

DT/NT...I'd rather a big and hope Walton can develop some to give Tuitt and Heyward some rest....the Baylor kid fits the mold...I would go this route if the kid is a player....like you said...McLendon is too expensive for the snaps...McCullers got a late start because of the injury, but think they might be cooling on him as a 3-4 NT.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

OL...I'd spend $3 mil per on Foster, but DeCastro might cost $5 mil...Avill may have made it possible to keep DeCastro & Foster...Would be surprised to see G taken early, I'm willing to roll with what Munchak tells them.

S/CB...Rumors of Grant moving to SS are turning into comments from Tomlin so I think they will go 100% in that direction...because the draft slot is 25...I'm a little more open to CB in the 1st round...Kendall Fuller from Vitech and Eli Apple from Ohio St that could be starters on this team...Tomlin will likely want to see c. Allen at camp before he gets released...the thought is the knee will be chronic.

Kearse...the size intrigues you, but I lost some interest in him watching that national championship game...he'll be gone before the Steelers pick in the 2nd, but I wouldn't chase him.

OLB...he won't be there, but if the injury pushed Mack down to 25...I would think about it....another fast LB with big impact potential. Whether Deebo retires of not, Look for JJ & Bud to move into the 40-45 snap count this year. I think Butler likes this rotation at OLB.

DT/NT...I'd rather a big and hope Walton can develop some to give Tuitt and Heyward some rest....the Baylor kid fits the mold...I would go this route if the kid is a player....like you said...McLendon is too expensive for the snaps...McCullers got a late start because of the injury, but think they might be cooling on him as a 3-4 NT.

Meant to say Miles Jack...hurt his knee and could drop....kid has a quick burst, but not sure how a So Cal kid would fare in the Burg.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

When you dive in, you dive in the deep end I see...lol

Suisham and Beach have been replaced by lower ch players...

QB2...idk if this the yr to maybe take a stab at another QB of the future, but of one of the highly touted guys that are destined for the 2nd rd slips...I would consider it. Ideally I'd only want them to sit for 2 season, so maybe next yr...I see them going into '16 with Landry and Gradk...Vick won a game I think so he was worth is contract.

Now if Landry happens to beat out Gradk for QB2...they might go younger for QB3.

Well you & SuperBelt covered most of the FA basics! I think we all have a good understanding of what the team needs to do or could do with the current FA's. Now its just a waiting game.

Diving into the deep end is my forte! Or at least thats what I like to tell myself.

Interesting thought on going young with QB3. Honestly not sure why I swept the "grooming a QB" talk under the rug since we have had this discussion going on 2 years now lol. Maybe Landry's emergence blinded me. But I wouldn't in my right mind consider Landry a viable QB1 for an entire season, so you're definitely right. Going after a young talent still needs to be done. Ben will be 34 next season. IIRC we estimated he had about 3-4 good seasons left in the tank, so minus this past year we are looking at a possible 2-3 year grooming period. I see no reason why Landry wouldn't already be chalked in as QB2, so I wonder if that will be their intentions heading into this offseason. If not this draft, then definitely in '16. We should get a good perspective of the direction they want to go once march FA comes around.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

OL...I'd spend $3 mil per on Foster, but DeCastro might cost $5 mil...Avill may have made it possible to keep DeCastro & Foster...Would be surprised to see G taken early, I'm willing to roll with what Munchak tells them.

S/CB...Rumors of Grant moving to SS are turning into comments from Tomlin so I think they will go 100% in that direction...because the draft slot is 25...I'm a little more open to CB in the 1st round...Kendall Fuller from Vitech and Eli Apple from Ohio St that could be starters on this team...Tomlin will likely want to see c. Allen at camp before he gets released...the thought is the knee will be chronic.

Kearse...the size intrigues you, but I lost some interest in him watching that national championship game...he'll be gone before the Steelers pick in the 2nd, but I wouldn't chase him.

OLB...he won't be there, but if the injury pushed Mack down to 25...I would think about it....another fast LB with big impact potential. Whether Deebo retires of not, Look for JJ & Bud to move into the 40-45 snap count this year. I think Butler likes this rotation at OLB.

DT/NT...I'd rather a big and hope Walton can develop some to give Tuitt and Heyward some rest....the Baylor kid fits the mold...I would go this route if the kid is a player....like you said...McLendon is too expensive for the snaps...McCullers got a late start because of the injury, but think they might be cooling on him as a 3-4 NT.

Judging by the top OG contracts around $8mil per, I would think DeCastro will be looking to get paid just under or near that. He's comin off his first all-pro season, and arguably heading towards being one of the best in the business. If he wants $6-8mil then that makes the $3mil per on Foster look less enticing. But if you're right about the $5mil then that would make them feel more comfortable about Foster. Like I said before, planning to sign top end talents like Bell & Brown is going to take a lot of nickle & diming at other people's expense. Starting that sooner rather than later will make it easier for them to get it done. But like you said, I'd trust every word out of Munchak's mouth so if he wants new talent then I'd provide without thinking twice about it.

Grant... Must have missed those comments from Tomlin. I've only been hearing from random commenters/posters around the web about Grant being a Safety candidate. So that's encouraging to hear they are open to it. Haven't seen Grant play yet so not sure what skillset he brings to the table. If he has a hard nose then I'm sure he would fit in well with the Safety group. Haven't gotten a chance to see Fuller play, but the Apple kid seems to be for real. Need to do more research on those guys.

Jack... Heard the same thing that his injury might cause him to drop. Steelers have been very lucky in recent drafts with top end talents falling to them, so there's always a chance.

Walton... I was impressed that he made an impact earlier than they had projected him to. Meaning, I believe he was destined for the PS but made the 53. One could argue that Geathers' knee injury had a lot to do with it, but I still think he had a good shot at beating out Cam Thomas had Geathers remained healthy. I liked what I saw from him last preseason. Decent technique, good leverage skills, and a good motor. In time, J Mitchell should be able to get the most out of the kid. But if he's not the guy, then they need someone who can help give the "Wreck-It Crew" some rest.

 

[Superbelt]

I would suggest not wasting more picks time and effort searching for a developmental quarterback to groom.

We've seen we can pick up serviceable QB's in FA in guys like Bruce Gradkowski. And even Landry Jones can be depended on now to not be a liability at least. We aren't likely to get Ben's real replacement late in the draft somewhere.

I say, ride Ben until we have to take him out back and shoot him, we see the ensuing season implode, and it puts us in prime position to get a blue chip franchise QB prospect in the following draft.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Judging by the top OG contracts around $8mil per, I would think DeCastro will be looking to get paid just under or near that. He's comin off his first all-pro season, and arguably heading towards being one of the best in the business. If he wants $6-8mil then that makes the $3mil per on Foster look less enticing. But if you're right about the $5mil then that would make them feel more comfortable about Foster. Like I said before, planning to sign top end talents like Bell & Brown is going to take a lot of nickle & diming at other people's expense. Starting that sooner rather than later will make it easier for them to get it done. But like you said, I'd trust every word out of Munchak's mouth so if he wants new talent then I'd provide without thinking twice about it.

Grant... Must have missed those comments from Tomlin. I've only been hearing from random commenters/posters around the web about Grant being a Safety candidate. So that's encouraging to hear they are open to it. Haven't seen Grant play yet so not sure what skillset he brings to the table. If he has a hard nose then I'm sure he would fit in well with the Safety group. Haven't gotten a chance to see Fuller play, but the Apple kid seems to be for real. Need to do more research on those guys.

Jack... Heard the same thing that his injury might cause him to drop. Steelers have been very lucky in recent drafts with top end talents falling to them, so there's always a chance.

Walton... I was impressed that he made an impact earlier than they had projected him to. Meaning, I believe he was destined for the PS but made the 53. One could argue that Geathers' knee injury had a lot to do with it, but I still think he had a good shot at beating out Cam Thomas had Geathers remained healthy. I liked what I saw from him last preseason. Decent technique, good leverage skills, and a good motor. In time, J Mitchell should be able to get the most out of the kid. But if he's not the guy, then they need someone who can help give the "Wreck-It Crew" some rest.

OG/OT...I think DeCastro will get fair market, maybe a tad under if they extend him early, the key will be the G $...may fatten that to bring his CH down. I think it will be in and around the same as Gilbert and try to keep Foster intact, but as we've said, if Munchak feels he can get similar production from a draft pick or somebody on the roster like Hubbard, they could make a change.

If Conklin or Decker is on the board at 25...would they go that route? Do they consider AVill the permanent LT? I would think they do for the CH value alone.

Grant...I saw his comments on Steeler Depot...came from a question @ his presser if I understand it right. Probably doesn't change any draft plans, but the combo of Grant & Golden with Grant being the FT guy in '17 might be the same as drafting a guy @ the top of the draft.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I would suggest not wasting more picks time and effort searching for a developmental quarterback to groom.

We've seen we can pick up serviceable QB's in FA in guys like Bruce Gradkowski. And even Landry Jones can be depended on now to not be a liability at least. We aren't likely to get Ben's real replacement late in the draft somewhere.

I say, ride Ben until we have to take him out back and shoot him, we see the ensuing season implode, and it puts us in prime position to get a blue chip franchise QB prospect in the following draft.

I tend to agree...the timing is a tad too early to draft the heir apparent, but if a Cardale Jones is sitting there in the 4th rd...I think I would he can be QB3 and keep Landry @ QB2...might get more value out of the position with a dual threat guy...might activate him a little more as QB3 than normal.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Looming Deals...Bell & DeCastro

DeCastro...1 major injury, good since...top 10 for certain at his position probably higher...coming into his 5yr option that will pay $8mil in '16 making him one of the highest paid OGs in the league...I think PIT would like to extend him this season with at least $20 mil G avg about $5.75 to $6 mil per for 6 yrs that would save a couple mil.

Bell...a little more complicated...2 major knee injuries...the final yr of his deal rookie pays only $1.3 mil... a 3rd probably knocks serious value off his talent...might be the most versatile RB in the league...considering DWill makes almost double that of Bell...I think PIT will act on this extension as soon as the health is confirmed...reportedly rehab is going well...the top end salaries for RBs are silly I don't expect PIT to pay AP type money...I expect a 5 yr deal with $12 mil G...$5 mil avg....I might be way low there, but this is what I'm feeling...a $25-$30 mil type deal.

We shall see.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I'll be digging in a little deeper on draft prospects sometime soon since I'm starting to do more research. Will probably start the draft thread for it like I did last offseason.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I'll be digging in a little deeper on draft prospects sometime soon since I'm starting to do more research. Will probably start the draft thread for it like I did last offseason.

Cool...most of my research has been surface level...the guys I've watched in the bowls and the bit I get to see during the season. There's a Sr. Bowl kid OLB prospect that is interesting...I will have to go back and look him up again for his name...talked about as a top 15 talent...had some issues...seemed like a good mid round pick.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I'll be digging in a little deeper on draft prospects sometime soon since I'm starting to do more research. Will probably start the draft thread for it like I did last offseason.

Some names gaining my interest. We've done okay with one Duke grad...I like this kid's size and athletic ability for SS.

Jeremy Cash.

Also...what are your thoughts on the trade back talk brewing?

I think the reports I've read indicate the Steelers have 1-4, & 7 rd picks...no 5th or 6th and probably a compensatory 7th for McCain.

I'll go first...I like it if...

They move back to say 32 to 42 range...and pick up a mid to high 3rd...have two 2nds, and two 3rds...I would do it...4 picks in the top 100.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Some names gaining my interest. We've done okay with one Duke grad...I like this kid's size and athletic ability for SS.

Jeremy Cash.

Also...what are your thoughts on the trade back talk brewing?

I think the reports I've read indicate the Steelers have 1-4, & 7 rd picks...no 5th or 6th and probably a compensatory 7th for McCain.

I'll go first...I like it if...

They move back to say 32 to 42 range...and pick up a mid to high 3rd...have two 2nds, and two 3rds...I would do it...4 picks in the top 100.

That's the same kid that I talked to you about a month or so ago. Really like him. I talked to a guy on the CFB who said he runs 4.6's. The lowest he clocked was 4.46 but that was a few years ago. He's got great instincts, decent coverage skills, and he's a sure-tackler. He played in the box a lot at Duke. Should be interesting to see what he runs during workouts this offseason. I bet his stock will rise before the draft.

Haven't heard much about draft movement yet. Seems like most people are content with the 6 picks (assuming 1 from McCain) that we will likely have this year. If they can somehow work out a draft pick for Suisham then they would be in business. I think PIT would have to eat some of that contract to get a trade done, sort of like JAX did with Scobee.

Seeing as how they need secondary help as one of their main priorities, I don't see why not. There are only 2-3 sure-fire 1-st rounders in the CB group. All of the top FS/SS are projected in the 2nd round. Dropping back to get two 2nd rounders would be perfect for PIT. Grab a top end safety & CB in the 2nd, and O-line/D-line help in the 3rd. Or any mix of those 4 picks would do. The more I think about this, the more I really want them to do it.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

That's the same kid that I talked to you about a month or so ago. Really like him. I talked to a guy on the CFB who said he runs 4.6's. The lowest he clocked was 4.46 but that was a few years ago. He's got great instincts, decent coverage skills, and he's a sure-tackler. He played in the box a lot at Duke. Should be interesting to see what he runs during workouts this offseason. I bet his stock will rise before the draft.

Haven't heard much about draft movement yet. Seems like most people are content with the 6 picks (assuming 1 from McCain) that we will likely have this year. If they can somehow work out a draft pick for Suisham then they would be in business. I think PIT would have to eat some of that contract to get a trade done, sort of like JAX did with Scobee.

Seeing as how they need secondary help as one of their main priorities, I don't see why not. There are only 2-3 sure-fire 1-st rounders in the CB group. All of the top FS/SS are projected in the 2nd round. Dropping back to get two 2nd rounders would be perfect for PIT. Grab a top end safety & CB in the 2nd, and O-line/D-line help in the 3rd. Or any mix of those 4 picks would do. The more I think about this, the more I really want them to do it.

I do remember that now that you say that. We'll have to see if they bring him in for a visit.

Yep...my thoughts as well, but it's rare for the Steelers to trade out of the 1st....not that I seek these guys out, but looking for value...Noah Spence made a big move in the SR bowl has character issues and could drop...same with the DT from Ole Miss..Nikemdiche....with so many quality DTs he could be on the board at 25 and many think he is a top 10-15 talent.

Just based on the success of his brother at the position...Kendall Fuller keeps ringing my ear...I think he's going early/mid 2nd rd...not sure if he will be ready to run at the combine, but he's a guy I'm watching.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Got an interesting topic that I've been bouncing off my friends recently... What would everyone think about grabbing Ziggy Hood in FA to replace the (hopefully) departing Cam Thomas? Ziggy last played on the Bears for around $500k. Very cap friendly, and he would partially know the system. I don't need to mention how much of an upgrade he would be over Cam Thomas lol. Not sure what kind of shape he is in after his injury with JAX, but IMO it would be beneficial to bring him in for a workout.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Got an interesting topic that I've been bouncing off my friends recently... What would everyone think about grabbing Ziggy Hood in FA to replace the (hopefully) departing Cam Thomas? Ziggy last played on the Bears for around $500k. Very cap friendly, and he would partially know the system. I don't need to mention how much of an upgrade he would be over Cam Thomas lol. Not sure what kind of shape he is in after his injury with JAX, but IMO it would be beneficial to bring him in for a workout.

Cheaper...certainly wouldn't be any worse than Thomas...for a vet min deal, rotation guy...yes.

Boykin...we talked about him a little. I decided to take look at the FA market and I have to say...at the top are some big salaried guys like Morris Claiborne, Sean Smith, etc...but Boykin should be very attractive...only 25, clearly has the skills to play the slot should cost much less than the top guys...some team is going to pay him $3 mil + per...we can pretty much forget about him I think.

Considering the back end needs the most work, most improvement. This is going to be an interesting offseason...Re-signing Gay is almost mandatory. Our best chance of improving in the secondary is Cockrell taking another step in the right direction and Golson not playing like a rookie. Hopefully the SS situation doesn't blow up but I feel pretty comfy with Golden to serve as the starter and get Grant or (insert rookie here) some meaning snaps.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Cheaper...certainly wouldn't be any worse than Thomas...for a vet min deal, rotation guy...yes.

Boykin...we talked about him a little. I decided to take look at the FA market and I have to say...at the top are some big salaried guys like Morris Claiborne, Sean Smith, etc...but Boykin should be very attractive...only 25, clearly has the skills to play the slot should cost much less than the top guys...some team is going to pay him $3 mil + per...we can pretty much forget about him I think.

Considering the back end needs the most work, most improvement. This is going to be an interesting offseason...Re-signing Gay is almost mandatory. Our best chance of improving in the secondary is Cockrell taking another step in the right direction and Golson not playing like a rookie. Hopefully the SS situation doesn't blow up but I feel pretty comfy with Golden to serve as the starter and get Grant or (insert rookie here) some meaning snaps.

There isn't much out there that can be worse than Thomas... Just sayin! lol

Boykin... You are probably right. I'm hoping that he wants to stay with a contender though so unless a good team makes an offer he might stay put. As you can see I'm trying to stay optimistic about him...

Secondary... That's probably going to be the starters next season. Gay, Cockrell & Golson. Mitchell & Golden will be a serviceable pair, but something tells me it will leave us wanting more. But in reality, unless they take a shot at Jalen Ramsey (who is going top 5 easy) then its wishful thinking to get anyone else that is capable of being plugged in day 1. They would have to sell the farm to pull that deal. As we've noted before, most safeties in the draft are 2nd rounders so they'll most likely need some time to get things figured out. Rotation players at best. But I'm hoping that someone's stock rises (Jeremy Cash, etc). After this weekend we'll start to hear more and more about these prospects.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

There isn't much out there that can be worse than Thomas... Just sayin! lol

Boykin... You are probably right. I'm hoping that he wants to stay with a contender though so unless a good team makes an offer he might stay put. As you can see I'm trying to stay optimistic about him...

Secondary... That's probably going to be the starters next season. Gay, Cockrell & Golson. Mitchell & Golden will be a serviceable pair, but something tells me it will leave us wanting more. But in reality, unless they take a shot at Jalen Ramsey (who is going top 5 easy) then its wishful thinking to get anyone else that is capable of being plugged in day 1. They would have to sell the farm to pull that deal. As we've noted before, most safeties in the draft are 2nd rounders so they'll most likely need some time to get things figured out. Rotation players at best. But I'm hoping that someone's stock rises (Jeremy Cash, etc). After this weekend we'll start to hear more and more about these prospects.

I'm okay with the 5some...we'll see how it works out with Grant's transition, but I expect them make Golden a decent offer...most likely not going to nab a '16 starter in this draft unless they go OG.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I'm okay with the 5some...we'll see how it works out with Grant's transition, but I expect them make Golden a decent offer...most likely not going to nab a '16 starter in this draft unless they go OG.

Yea I'm thinkin after his first year with extensive playing time, Golden will improve. He has been a full-time STer every year prior to '15, with maybe 1-2 defensive snaps per game. After this season he should feel much more comfortable out there.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Yea I'm thinkin after his first year with extensive playing time, Golden will improve. He has been a full-time STer every year prior to '15, with maybe 1-2 defensive snaps per game. After this season he should feel much more comfortable out there.

Kinda interesting situation...William Moore...Falcon's SS was just released this week...probowl caliber talent, but can't stay on the field...only played all 16 games once. New staff decided he was too expensive.

Hard hitting playmaker...a Steeler type player, but probably wants more money than he deserves with his injury history...a contract based on roster bonuses and incentives might be in order for this guy because he's not done...I'll be curious to see where he goes.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Kinda interesting situation...William Moore...Falcon's SS was just released this week...probowl caliber talent, but can't stay on the field...only played all 16 games once. New staff decided he was too expensive.

Hard hitting playmaker...a Steeler type player, but probably wants more money than he deserves with his injury history...a contract based on roster bonuses and incentives might be in order for this guy because he's not done...I'll be curious to see where he goes.

I saw that. Was curious to see what interest others had with him. I don't know enough about him so its good to hear from someone who knows the team better. What kind of injuries is he dealing with?

I wouldn't be surprised if Colbert contacts his agent to gauge his value/price. Can't remember the exact date when they can start calling agents, and FA doesn't start til March. So we might not hear anything about it for a few weeks.