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I do because they’re blocking Huff and Jung. We need to put them on the field in 2021
They need to start 140 games next season. They cannot do that as bench players.
 

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They need to start 140 games next season. They cannot do that as bench players.
You keep coming up with unattainable numbers. Why 140 games? Why not 82 at 3rd for Jung and at C for Huff plus time at DH adding up to 100 letting them get acclimated to the big league.
 

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You keep coming up with unattainable numbers. Why 140 games? Why not 82 at 3rd for Jung and at C for Huff plus time at DH adding up to 100 letting them get acclimated to the big league.
Unsustainable? Lol

That is the way it is done when you bring up position prospects. Barring an injury that is what happens. No good prospect is brought up to play just 100 of 162 games. Look at our top position player prospects over the last 20 years or so. Young, Kinsler, Blalock, Teixeira, Palmer, Andrus, and Davis all started on just about an every day basis either in the minors or here when they were brought up. None of them were limited to less than 140 games except Kinsler, slightly, due to injury.

There is a reason for that. It is because it hurts their development to sit the bench for 60 games a year or anything close to that.
 

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Unsustainable? Lol

That is the way it is done when you bring up position prospects. Barring an injury that is what happens. No good prospect is brought up to play just 100 of 162 games. Look at our top position player prospects over the last 20 years or so. Young, Kinsler, Blalock, Teixeira, Palmer, Andrus, and Davis all started on just about an every day basis either in the minors or here when they were brought up. None of them were limited to less than 140 games except Kinsler, slightly, due to injury.

There is a reason for that. It is because it hurts their development to sit the bench for 60 games a year or anything close to that.
Of the ones you mentioned only Teixeira and Andrea started more than 140 games here. The others played 120 games or less their 1st season here
 

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Based on Spotrac we have 11 players under contract totaling $74016667 throw in Kluber’s $1M buyout payroll and we’re at $75016667.
 

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Of the ones you mentioned only Teixeira and Andrea started more than 140 games here. The others played 120 games or less their 1st season here
Doubt if Huff plays 140 games without injury and what will Trevino do all season?
Same situation with Jung. If he plays 140 then what happens with IKF? See your point. Then what happens with Elvis if IKF plays SS?
 

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Doubt if Huff plays 140 games without injury and what will Trevino do all season?
Same situation with Jung. If he plays 140 then what happens with IKF? See your point. Then what happens with Elvis if IKF plays SS?
I think Trevino and Huff split the catching duties equally. I think IKF and Jung equally split time at 3rd and Andrea and Tejeda split time at SS
 

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I think Trevino and Huff split the catching duties equally. I think IKF and Jung equally split time at 3rd and Andrea and Tejeda split time at SS
That makes more sense. To think any catcher playing 140 games is unthinkable.
 

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Of the ones you mentioned only Teixeira and Andrea started more than 140 games here. The others played 120 games or less their 1st season here
You are failing to include the games they played in the minors in their first year here. In my original statement I mentioned they need to play in 140 games somewhere. I never had a problem with the number of games they might play here next year as long as they were not riding the bench. That means they would play in the minors if they couldn't be everyday players here. That was the case with all of the players I mentioned. No good prospect comes up and rides the bench for 60 games a year like you suggested.
 

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That makes more sense. To think any catcher playing 140 games is unthinkable.
No good catching prospect sits 60 games a year. That is unthinkable. If you have an offensive strong catcher like Huff you find ways to get him into the game a lot more than 100 times a year.

Of course, he wouldn't play catcher 140 games, but between 1B and DH he should play close to 140 games. If he was mainly a defensive catcher then he would play less like Sundberg did. Even Pudge almost played 140 games his first year and his offense wasn't that great then.
 

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Based on Spotrac we have 11 players under contract totaling $74016667 throw in Kluber’s $1M buyout payroll and we’re at $75016667.
You could probably add in 10 more guys making the minimum for a total of close to $6 million. Then probably 3 veteran types making $6-10 million combined.
 

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To be clear, lesser prospects do come up and play less that every day a lot of the time. Guys like Heineman, in other words. Even IKF was not considered that great of a prospect when he came up. To me Tejeda fits into that category for now.
 

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You are failing to include the games they played in the minors in their first year here. In my original statement I mentioned they need to play in 140 games somewhere. I never had a problem with the number of games they might play here next year as long as they were not riding the bench. That means they would play in the minors if they couldn't be everyday players here. That was the case with all of the players I mentioned. No good prospect comes up and rides the bench for 60 games a year like you suggested.
When you are starting from scratch at most positions and wanting the best scenario for the team you play the best you’ve got. You don’t waste money and playing time on scrubs and mediocrity you utilize the best.
 

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You could probably add in 10 more guys making the minimum for a total of close to $6 million. Then probably 3 veteran types making $6-10 million combined.
So spend (waste) millions on “veterans” that hold back the advancement of the kids. But oh yeah in your scenario we trade them away for garbage at the trade deadline.
 

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So unless we figure some way to trade Lynn, Odor, Gibson and Lyles, who gets benched or sent to the minors. Lynn, Gibson & Lyles eat up 3 starter spots and Allard makes 4 so 1 position and 3 or 4 young guys who should be given their chance end up back in the minors. Odor blocks Solak at 2B and if we bring back Santana he blocks Solak, Calhoun and Taveras. And you talk about adding 3 cheap veterans who will eat up playing time for other young players.
 

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Good morning. Brainstorming and Wondering if IKF is an option for getting much playing time at SS this season. This opens up 3B at least temporarily Of course at some point I would rather have Tejeda
 

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So unless we figure some way to trade Lynn, Odor, Gibson and Lyles, who gets benched or sent to the minors. Lynn, Gibson & Lyles eat up 3 starter spots and Allard makes 4 so 1 position and 3 or 4 young guys who should be given their chance end up back in the minors. Odor blocks Solak at 2B and if we bring back Santana he blocks Solak, Calhoun and Taveras. And you talk about adding 3 cheap veterans who will eat up playing time for other young players.
Santana is currently damaged goods. He will be nontendered. Maybe an MILB/MLB conversion contract until healthy
 
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