Should Detroit re-sign Goff this offseason or wait till after next season?

[SJ76]

Detroit fans pounding their chest after beating our secondary lol

It’s precious

 

[belcherboy]

You’re pretty cute.

Right back at ya!

 

[belcherboy]

This is for last year, but the ranges are consistent for his career. He is known to struggle with pressure.

QB Rating	56.2	28th
Completion %	40.2	32nd
EPA per pressure play	-0.41	t-22nd

As always, how does he compare to others? Who are guys above and behind him?

It’s funny how all the sudden those considered elite, are nearby his ratings or sometimes below him.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

As always, how does he compare to others? Who are guys above and behind him?

It’s funny how all the sudden those considered elite, are nearby his ratings or sometimes below him.

dude. he gave you the ranks lol

you want him to list the other 31 qbs there?

 

[Mebert]

As always, how does he compare to others? Who are guys above and behind him?

It’s funny how all the sudden those considered elite, are nearby his ratings or sometimes below him.

The third column is how it compares to others. He is 28th, 32ns, and tied for 22nd

 

[Mebert]

Detroit fans pounding their chest after beating our secondary lol

It’s precious

I was worried as hell about that game, Rams had been on fire. No chest pounding from me, just happy for the win.

 

[Mebert]

As always, how does he compare to others? Who are guys above and behind him?

It’s funny how all the sudden those considered elite, are nearby his ratings or sometimes below him.

If last year won't do it for you, here is some numbers stats from this year.

• QBR drop from 66.8 to 24.7 for the average quarterback under pressure
• Goff's QBR under pressure is 8.8, ranking 26th in the league
• Goff's 68.5-point QBR difference with and without pressure is the largest for any quarterback
• Goff has the second-worst completion percentage over expected (CPOE) under pressure

 

[SJ76]

I was worried as hell about that game, Rams had been on fire. No chest pounding from me, just happy for the win.

I’ve got 2 friends one is my neighbor who are Lions fans. Happy for them but even they are not big Jared Goff fans. He’s been a roller coaster and most intelligent fans know this

 

[SJ76]

Here you go one more time Belcher boy.

2019 playoff run to Super Bowl. Jared Goff 1 TD and 2 INTs in 3 playoff games.



“Do you have any other stats”??

 

[Mebert]

I’ve got 2 friends one is my neighbor who are Lions fans. Happy for them but even they are not big Jared Goff fans. He’s been a roller coaster and most intelligent fans know this

Don't get me wrong, I love Goff. Been way better than I hoped for. Liking a player does not mean you have to be blind to weak areas. Goff struggles under pressure, but Lions oline allows pressure at one of the lowest rates in the league. Goff is a great fit for this team.

 

[belcherboy]

dude. he gave you the ranks lol

you want him to list the other 31 qbs there?

I know, but who is above him.

Someone just said he was tied for 7th in INT’s, guess who was behind him?

 

[belcherboy]

Here you go one more time Belcher boy.

2019 playoff run to Super Bowl. Jared Goff 1 TD and 2 INTs in 3 playoff games.



“Do you have any other stats”??

Huh? So Lamar Jackson isn’t elite?

 

[belcherboy]

Don't get me wrong, I love Goff. Been way better than I hoped for. Liking a player does not mean you have to be blind to weak areas. Goff struggles under pressure, but Lions oline allows pressure at one of the lowest rates in the league. Goff is a great fit for this team.

Again, compared to who? Could some of the top QB’s in the league struggle with pressure this year, but still put up amazing stats?

It seems that people completely disregard stats in saying that Goff is average.

His stats are near elite, no? At least top 8-10, no?

 

[Mebert]

Again, compared to who? Could some of the top QB’s in the league struggle with pressure, but still put up amazing stats?

It seems that people completely disregard stats in saying that Goff is average.

His stats are near elite, no? At least top 8-10, no?

You want me to list all 31 QBs with better completion percentages than him under pressure? Who is above him is a valid counterargument when it is near the top 10, not the late 20s.

Lets go back to this line:

• Goff's 68.5-point QBR difference with and without pressure is the largest for any quarterback

So the list for the gap difference is every single qualified QB in the league.

I have at no point called Goff average. Acknowledging he struggles under pressure, which is well documented all over the place and backed by stats is not dissing Goff. When not under pressure he is awesome, and the Lions oline allows pressure at a low rate. His shortcoming is mitigated by the Lions main strength, which is why he is a great fit here.

 

[SJ76]

Huh? So Lamar Jackson isn’t elite?

Haha look at you reach. Goff is a game manager always has been

 

[Mebert]

Haha look at you reach. Goff is a game manager always has been

Now this I would argue against. He can carry a team to a win.

 

[PDay8810]

You want me to list all 31 QBs with better completion percentages than him under pressure? Who is above him is a valid counterargument when it is near the top 10, not the late 20s.

Lets go back to this line:

• Goff's 68.5-point QBR difference with and without pressure is the largest for any quarterback

So the list for the gap difference is every single qualified QB in the league.

I have at no point called Goff average. Acknowledging he struggles under pressure, which is well documented all over the place and backed by stats is not dissing Goff. When not under pressure he is awesome, and the Lions oline allows pressure at a low rate. His shortcoming is mitigated by the Lions main strength, which is why he is a great fit here.

stay the course Mebert.
Next.

 

[belcherboy]

I’ve got 2 friends one is my neighbor who are Lions fans. Happy for them but even they are not big Jared Goff fans. He’s been a roller coaster and most intelligent fans know this

So it’s gone from eye test to your neighbors opinion test?

 

[belcherboy]

Haha look at you reach. Goff is a game manager always has been

You used Goff’s playoff numbers to argue he is a great QB, then I mention Lamar Jackson and it’s a reach?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

qbs I'm def taking over Goff

Mahomes
Allen
Hebert
Hurts
Dak
Purdy
Stroud
Lamar
Burrow

Similar level

Baker
Tua
Watson (inc)...if he's anywhere near Houston he's obviously better
Cousins
Love (but I'm taking love if I'm building a team)
Staff (he's better today but old)
Lawrence (again would take him if I'm building)



When you add incoming qbs this pushes Goff to the middle of the league.

But he is a good fit in Detroit and doing well. But almost no one is taking him top 7 or so