Russell Wilson

[Gooch1034]

Quick. Name the two NFL QBs who own the rookie TD record.

Hint: Nether of them are named Tom Brady.

Peyton and Russell withhhhhhh.........28 tds?

 

[chappee11]

No. Ryan Leaf didn't have the mental prototype.

It took me a few pages(probably because I had a couple drinks with lunch), but you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

 

[Malibu]

its the amount of yards the ball is actually in the air.

Team Yards After Catch Statistics: 2015 NFL Season


Face it Brady gets a ton of help on yards after catch. Doesn't have to make many tough throws.

 

[Jakology]

It took me a few pages(probably because I had a couple drinks with lunch), but you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

There's no need for that. Can't opinions differ without having to insult each other's intelligence?

 

[Jakology]

Team Yards After Catch Statistics: 2015 NFL Season


Face it Brady gets a ton of help on yards after catch. Doesn't have to make many tough throws.

Don't try to talk sense into them. They won't accept it.

 

[SonnyCID]

So it's all on Peyton and has nothing to do with the performance of the rest of the team? I've already said that winning does matter, but not when it comes to comparing players. Winning the big one doesn't do anything but add an accomplishment to a resume. It doesn't change how good the actual player is. You guys are trying to use accomplishments when truly all the matters is comparing their physical and mental abilities.

Using the rings argument as your bottom line criteria of greatness is weak.

Brady won 3 SBs with the all time postseason leaders in interceptions and sacks playing on the other side. But those guys were just lucky to be carried by Brady to titles.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Wins/losses on it's own, is a terrible stat for a quarterback since football is the ultimate team game.

Super Bowl rings, again...on their own, is even more idiotic to rate quarterbacks.

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning certainly have different playoff 'records' but their actual individual performance is very, very similar.

P. Rivers is certainly a better quarterback than Russell Wilson. Webster is pretty good, but somewhat overrated.

Joe Montana was (probably still is) better than all of the above bums combined.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Well, you should. Grown men that think they are "part of the team" are ridiculous.

Who said we think we are part of the team? Maybe some feel like that, but there are nutbars in every fanbase.

There is no denying that a loud, hostile crowd at home can help a team though. Ask anyone who's ever played at Seattle or Kansas City if the crowd helps.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Well only one QB each year gets to win a ring so are we saying that there is only one great QB per season?

 

[chappee11]

Who said we think we are part of the team? Maybe some feel like that, but there are nutbars in every fanbase.

There is no denying that a loud, hostile crowd at home can help a team though. Ask anyone who's ever played at Seattle or Kansas City if the crowd helps.

No doubt that the crowd is loud and it causes all sorts of problems for opposing offenses. You aren't one of the "12's" that I am talking about. You know the type of Seahawks fan I AM talking about, though.

 

[Ned_Merrill]

My compliments to El Rock. I was on this board when he started this thread. I wake up, and it is not even 12 hours later, this beast is almost 400 Replies long. iAy caramba!

 

[Rex Racer]

Dan Marino is a better prototypical quarterback than Joe Montana.

So was Jeff George. What is your point?

 

[chf]

"Stats mean nothing." "Let's look at the stats." "Have you actually watched him play?" "But how many games did he win?" "How many rings does he have?" etc. etc. etc. It's funny. People will come up with any argument possible to defend a QB. Contradicting themselves along the way when they use different arguments.

That sword cut two ways, it's also used to

wilson is 6'1 like i have a 12 inch dick.

hes 5'10

hes edlemans size

For your Math to hold up in that, Wilson would have to be claiming to be 8 feet tall.

 

[Jakology]

So was Jeff George. What is your point?

That is the point. Glad somebody actually gets it.

 

[Oldschool739]

His team just dominated a game 20-3



His bad for not being a fantasy football regular season superstar

Speaking of Fantasy football, am I the lone wolf that hates that stupid childish make believe ??
I hate turning on NFL channel and listening to grown men, many of which are x players go on and on about pretending to be a coach/GM with this garbage.....
Have I got any buyers ???

 

[Ricky Roma]

Speaking of Fantasy football, am I the lone wolf that hates that stupid childish make believe ??
I hate turning on NFL channel and listening to grown men, many of which are x players go on and on about pretending to be a coach/GM with this garbage.....
Have I got any buyers ???

I'm fully on board with that...fantasy football is garbage. Then again, so is any support for ray lewis.

 

[Ned_Merrill]

Have I got any buyers ???

10-4. I did it for 3 seasons, and I ended up cheering against the Hawks because I had Brian Griese and Rod Smith (DEN 2001) on my fantasy team.

 

[Oldschool739]

I'm fully on board with that...fantasy football is garbage. Then again, so is any support for ray lewis.

You obviously don't know the story then...These hater fans want you to believe he was part of a double murder, but the 2 friends of his that actually killed 2 hoodlums that were trying to kill them was found not guilty , it was self defense...
Ray was guilty of with holding evidence but testified to the truth and never had another problem the rest of his 17 yr career....And of his own accord he gave 1 mil to each of the families of the deceased...
Yea, he's a terrible human being....

 

[Dude]

So much speculation in this thread ... the facts are carved in stone in the history books of NFL. The would haves, could haves and should haves don't exist. Facts, facts, facts, that is all there is at any given point in time. So comparisons need to consider those facts over a certain period in time to have any validity. No QB wins by himself, but he is the captain that guides the ship.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Ray was guilty

Period.