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Vick sucked big time against the Ravens and the Chargers. The Steelers almost beat the Ravens and beat the Chargers.

When Ben was suspended for 4 games in 2010, our offense averaged around 150 total yards, and the team was 3-1.

Tom Brady threw 2 INTs and no TDs, with a below average performance against the Ravens in the 2011 AFCCG, and the Patriots still won.

There are many more examples, but these are just off the top of my head.
Like Bens first year after Maddox went down against Baltimore. Ben threw the ball under 8-15 times a game almost all year and they went 15-1?
 

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is on pace for 18 TD's and 11 picks

3,800 yards

thats 237 yards a game over 16

1.12 TD's per game

trent dilfer with legs

Quick. Name the two NFL QBs who own the rookie TD record.

Hint: Nether of them are named Tom Brady.
 

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i started it after he threw 2 picks last night and saw his projected numbers.

whats he at, 8 and 5 now?

Ya, well that could change in a heartbeat for any QB. If Wilson were to rip off 4 TD's and no picks against Dallas next week that would put him on pace for 24td/10ints instead of 18/11. Not saying that will happen but that's how much one good game could change someones stats averages really fast.
 

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That's just an opinion fabricated by the media. Brady plays for a better organization and better team. That's the only difference for their careers really. Peyton is the better prototypical QB.

Fabricated by the media?? Were Peyton's 9(!!) one-and-done showings in the playoffs fabricated, too? You are a Dolphins fan, so of course winning doesn't matter to you. But not winning the big one is what makes Marino merely a top 10 QB all-time vs. greatest of all time.
 

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Also. Marino > Montana. Just so everyone knows where I stand on the accomplishment argument. You put Marino on that team, you get the same thing, if not better results.

BAHAHAHA!! I wonder how you would feel about this had you grown up in San Francisco?? Hmmmm....
 

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Dan Marino = Drew Brees(without the Super Bowl win).

That's still pretty good, though.
 

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Fabricated by the media?? Were Peyton's 9(!!) one-and-done showings in the playoffs fabricated, too? You are a Dolphins fan, so of course winning doesn't matter to you. But not winning the big one is what makes Marino merely a top 10 QB all-time vs. greatest of all time.

So it's all on Peyton and has nothing to do with the performance of the rest of the team? I've already said that winning does matter, but not when it comes to comparing players. Winning the big one doesn't do anything but add an accomplishment to a resume. It doesn't change how good the actual player is. You guys are trying to use accomplishments when truly all the matters is comparing their physical and mental abilities.
 

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BAHAHAHA!! I wonder how you would feel about this had you grown up in San Francisco?? Hmmmm....

I'd have the same opinion if I was the same person. Because I don't judge players based on accomplishments.
 

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So it's all on Peyton and has nothing to do with the performance of the rest of the team? I've already said that winning does matter, but not when it comes to comparing players. Winning the big one doesn't do anything but add an accomplishment to a resume. It doesn't change how good the actual player is. You guys are trying to use accomplishments when truly all the matters is comparing their physical and mental abilities.

This is loser talk. And it's exactly what I'd expect from a Miami Dolphins fan. Rationalize your team's ineptitude all you like, but people who value winning know that attaining the ultimate goal is what turns good players into legends.
 

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This is loser talk. And it's exactly what I'd expect from a Miami Dolphins fan. Rationalize your team's ineptitude all you like, but people who value winning know that attaining the ultimate goal is what turns good players into legends.

It's not loser talk at all. I don't try to rationalize a team's ineptitude at all. You're trying to spin what I'm saying into meaning I'm making excuses for bad play, which is not true at all.
 
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