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Address what, that winning is overrated? Why bother.

Oh no. Winning is not overrated at all. You play to win the game. Everyone gets that. What I mean is people judging players based on being on winning teams is ridiculous. It's like the people who think Emmitt Smith is better than Barry Sanders.
 

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Oh no. Winning is not overrated at all. You play to win the game. Everyone gets that. What I mean is people judging players based on being on winning teams is ridiculous. It's like the people who think Emmitt Smith is better than Barry Sanders.
thats a RB, and emmit is the all time leading rusher. thats a different argument.
 

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Oh no. Winning is not overrated at all. You play to win the game. Everyone gets that. What I mean is people judging players based on being on winning teams is ridiculous. It's like the people who think Emmitt Smith is better than Barry Sanders.

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No. Great players cement their greatness by being great. Marino for example?

Can I submit Michael Jordan or Jerry Rice as an example of a great player that won some rings? Winning it all is what makes you great.

Marino was great, so was Charles Barkley, but we all know something was missing from their resumes.
 

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OMG there is the height thing again.

You know what. There is a HOF bound QB that owns the record for either Most Td's in a season or ever (can't remember which)

He is a Elite QB

6'1 qb too

What is his name??????
wilson is 6'1 like i have a 12 inch dick.

hes 5'10

hes edlemans size
 

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A great team with an average QB can still win a superbowl.
A crap team with a great QB is still a crap team and won't win a superbowl.

You can have as many examples of this as you want, all you have to do is look for them

How many crap teams have great QB's? I can't think of any. Teams with great QB's win in the NFL.
 

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Can I submit Michael Jordan or Jerry Rice as an example of a great player that won some rings? Winning it all is what makes you great.

Marino was great, so was Charles Barkley, but we all know something was missing from their resumes.

:L So a team accomplishment that you can write out on a resume would make them better? You're kidding right?
 

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No. 5'11. Look at Wikipedia
hes not 5'11 buddy, sorry.

he grew in height once he got to the nfl.

he's 5'10, probably 5'11 in cleats on concrete.
 

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thats a RB, and emmit is the all time leading rusher. thats a different argument.

I'm just using it as an example. Favre is the all time leading passer in almost every single category. Is he the best that ever played? No.
 

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No, you factored out half of the equation.

So is Wilson playing worse than usual, regressing?

And you're the one that said that rivers ypa is higher because he "places the ball better", that must only count for the past 6-7 games, huh?

Wilson's career ypa: 8
Rivers career ypa: 7.9
 

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Oh no. Winning is not overrated at all. You play to win the game. Everyone gets that. What I mean is people judging players based on being on winning teams is ridiculous. It's like the people who think Emmitt Smith is better than Barry Sanders.

I used to hate on Emmitt Smith growing up. Of course Sanders was better. But you know what is amazing about Emmitt?? His durability. He carried the ball a zillion times. There is basically no such thing as a durable RB anymore. So, Emmitt deserves extra credit for that.
 

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I used to hate on Emmitt Smith growing up. Of course Sanders was better. But you know what is amazing about Emmitt?? His durability. He carried the ball a zillion times. There is basically no such thing as a durable RB anymore. So, Emmitt deserves extra credit for that.

Oh I agree. I don't hate on him. I love great RB play.
 

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Why do these Douchey threads keep popping up? I guess my spam blocker must not be working properly
 

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I used to hate on Emmitt Smith growing up. Of course Sanders was better. But you know what is amazing about Emmitt?? His durability. He carried the ball a zillion times. There is basically no such thing as a durable RB anymore. So, Emmitt deserves extra credit for that.

One of the best ever IMHO
 
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