Russell Wilson is starting a pretty impressive list

[JDM]

I'm talking in a vacuum of TODAY only. Agree with all the other qualifiers.

In a vacuum ignored the team they are on, to win a game tomorrow, yes. Wilson is third of that group.

 

[JDM]

Only the highest QB Rating in NFL history
and the most wins in the first two years in NFL history
and the 6th highest completion percentage ever
and the 3rd highest yards per attempt in NFL history.

Yep, he's completely average.

QB Rating as in ESPN's? Meaningless. Passer rating? No he's not.

But I was referring to cam as "not good".

 

[Cloud]

Really? Wilson's QB Rating on the year (108) is higher than Andrew Luck's for any game since Week 1! At least last year, Luck had more raw numbers. Even that's not true this year. Wilson has more passing yards in the first three quarters and only has less overall because of garbage time.

And even more shockingly, he did it without his two tackles. He did it as the second most hurried QB in the league. He did it with a #1 receiver who entered the year with 1 career 100 yard game.

Wilson's #7 in completion percentage. Luck is #31.
Wilson's #3 in YPA. Luck is #29.
Wilson is #6 in TDs. Luck is #16.
Wilson is #1 in fewest INTs amongst guys with 10 starts. This is Luck's best stat, but he is still #5.
Wilson is #3 in QB Rating. Luck is #26.
Wilson is #3 in QB rushing yards. Luck is #8.
Wilson is #1 in Wins. Luck is #7.

And again, he has done this with a worse supporting cast. Saying you'd pick Luck over Wilson looked stupid when they were in college. At this point, it is so futile it is like arguing Sam Bowie was better than Jordan. It's unspeakably one-sided.

All I'll say is that if Luck plays for Seattle, I believe he'll put up similar numbers if not better as a passer. So I won't argue what you've put up as I already showed my support for Wilson in this thread as he is a QB for my team. It also showed that as it stands RIGHT NOW, Wilson is the best young QB of his class.

Would I trade Wilson for Luck? HELL NO. I love my QB! All I'm saying is that I won't pass on Luck or even RG3 for that matter.

BTW, this is probably the only time I'll respond to anything that has ESPN QBR in it, the stat is a complete joke.

 

[Sportsguy9695]

Wilson has really impressed me this year. lets just see how he can do down the stretch in the playoffs. playoff games are totally different then regular season games

 

[Smart]

QB Rating as in ESPN's? Meaningless. Passer rating? No he's not.

Sorry, he's #2. Rodgers is #1. That completely proves he isn't elite.

:rollseyes:

 

[The Derski]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnGa6ycrYYM]NFL - The Failed Mary - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsZU8YPRrW4]Golden Tate's Interview with Lisa Salters - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JDM]

He's not even in the elite discussion. There isn't another homer on these boards willing to go that absurd.

 

[Cloud]

Wilson has really impressed me this year. lets just see how he can do down the stretch in the playoffs. playoff games are totally different then regular season games

The sample size is small so far. Came back to beat the Skins. Came back to almost beat the Falcons. I think he's done fairly well. He always said in Seattle that he and the team treat every games as a championship game. The 1-0 mentality that has become the culture for him and the Hawks. There's no reason to think he won't be as poised as he is now in the playoffs. I'm confident that he'll do fine.

If the road to the SB goes through Seattle and that crowd. Good luck.

 

[The Derski]

When that play will forever be known as the "Fail Mary" to everyone that follows football and Seattle fans are still denying the push off by Golden Tate all you have to do is LOL.

Russell Wilson has never beat Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Cloud]

Sorry, he's #2. Rodgers is #1. That completely proves he isn't elite.

:rollseyes:

I don't think he's elite yet. He's emerging as one.

 

[JDM]

The push off happened. The catch was Tate's and it was not disputable in any way.

 

[Cloud]

When that play will forever be known as the "Fail Mary" to everyone that follows football and Seattle fans are still denying the push off by Golden Tate all you have to do is LOL.

Russell Wilson has never beat Aaron Rodgers.

Of course you would be this back up again. LOL..

 

[Smart]

All I'll say is that if Luck plays for Seattle, I believe he'll put up similar numbers if not better as a passer. So I won't argue what you've put up as I already showed my support for Wilson in this thread as he is a QB for my team. It also showed that as it stands RIGHT NOW, Wilson is the best young QB of his class.

Would I trade Wilson for Luck? HELL NO. I love my QB! All I'm saying is that I won't pass on Luck or even RG3 for that matter.

BTW, this is probably the only time I'll respond to anything that has ESPN QBR in it, the stat is a complete joke.

1. I didn't use QBR. I used passer rating. Wilson's QBR isn't that high because the stat penalizes QB's for getting sacked (as if its their fault for having an awful line).

2. In 2011, I heard the potential thing all the time. It was, "Sure, Wilson might have put up the highest passer rating in NCAA history, but Luck has more potential and will dominate him when they get to the pros."

And yet, Luck didn't. Because for all the talk, Luck does NOTHING better than Wilson. Wilson's decision making is better. He is a better leader. He sees the field better. He is more mobile. He is more elusive. He throws a better deep ball. He throws a better short ball. He is physically stronger. His passes are more accurate. He throws a more catchable ball. He takes less risks. And he wins more.

Again, passing on Wilson for Luck is so incomprehensibly stupid that I don't know where to begin. Wilson is better right now. Just like he was better in 2011. And they've never really been close either. At some point, people need to realize Russell isn't a fluke and Andrew Luck isn't gonna walk on water next week,

Maybe, just maybe, Russell is the more talented QB and will always be the more talented QB.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

All I'll say is that if Luck plays for Seattle, I believe he'll put up similar numbers if not better as a passer. So I won't argue what you've put up as I already showed my support for Wilson in this thread as he is a QB for my team. It also showed that as it stands RIGHT NOW, Wilson is the best young QB of his class.

Would I trade Wilson for Luck? HELL NO. I love my QB! All I'm saying is that I won't pass on Luck or even RG3 for that matter.

BTW, this is probably the only time I'll respond to anything that has ESPN QBR in it, the stat is a complete joke.

Nice objective post cloud. I agree. That's the way I feel about Griff - he's my guy. I do, however envy RW cost to the team! Excellent value for y'all, that cannot be argued! Think he's got a great future with your team and I like his persona off the field. Seems like a classy guy.

QBR = laughable! IMO

 

[The Derski]

The push off happened. The catch was Tate's and it was not disputable in any way.

You sure about that? Sure looks like Jennings had the ball first and has more of the ball than Tate when going to the ground.

 

[Smart]

You sure about that? Sure looks like Jennings had the ball first and has more of the ball than Tate when going to the ground.

You realize you are describing a touchdown, right?

 

[The Derski]

You realize you are describing a touchdown, right?

Tate shouldn't even be in that position in the first place if offensive pass interference is called. Plus he didn't have full possession of the ball going down. 2 missed calls by the refs on the same play.

 

[Cloud]

1. I didn't use QBR. I used passer rating. Wilson's QBR isn't that high because the stat penalizes QB's for getting sacked (as if its their fault for having an awful line).

2. In 2011, I heard the potential thing all the time. It was, "Sure, Wilson might have put up the highest passer rating in NCAA history, but Luck has more potential and will dominate him when they get to the pros."

And yet, Luck didn't. Because for all the talk, Luck does NOTHING better than Wilson. Wilson's decision making is better. He is a better leader. He sees the field better. He is more mobile. He is more elusive. He throws a better deep ball. He throws a better short ball. He is physically stronger. His passes are more accurate. He throws a more catchable ball. He takes less risks. And he wins more.

Again, passing on Wilson for Luck is so incomprehensibly stupid that I don't know where to begin. Wilson is better right now. Just like he was better in 2011. And they've never really been close either. At some point, people need to realize Russell isn't a fluke and Andrew Luck isn't gonna walk on water next week,

Maybe, just maybe, Russell is the more talented QB and will always be the more talented QB.

Apparently some teams thought they could pass on him because it took 75 picks to get Wilson. You have no idea how happy we are now that he landed on our lap like this in the 3rd round.

Obviously there were good reasons for teams to pass on him and the main factor was his height. So hindsight right now is 20/20.

Also, I don't doubt at all that Wilson is a talented QB. Like I said, I love the fact that he is our QB, so you won't have to convince me otherwise.

 

[cwood]

Tate shouldn't even be in that position in the first place if offensive pass interference is called. Plus he didn't have full possession of the ball going down. 2 missed calls by the refs on the same play.

No he's not. Having one hand pinned to a guy's chest because the other guy is squeezing the ball to his chest with two hands is not simultaneous possession. Tate is not in control of the ball at that moment, Jennings is. Lol, the only reason that call still gets brought up is because people defend it for some weird reason. If I were a Seattle fan I would just say lol we got lucky on that call, sucks to be you.

 

[JDM]

You sure about that? Sure looks like Jennings had the ball first and has more of the ball than Tate when going to the ground.

More of the ball is irrelevant. Tate caught it one handed and the ball didn't move on his hand once. It was caught before Jennings touched it.