Pacioretty gets three games

[forty_three]

Shanny has been good, and somewhat consistant.

He missed one bad here.

And your opinion of Lucic on Miller?

 

[SLY]

Miller dove.

 

[Winged_Wheel88]

As an aside, anyone care to photoshop Shanahan's face on the T Rex and write underneath, "Don't move! It will ban you if it sees movement!"

 

[IPostedWhat]

Miller dove.

Don't forget that he's still faking a concussion and whiplash in the hopes that Shanny changes his mind.

 

[pixburgher66]

I have no problem with it being a suspension at all but can it really be called blindside when Letang clearly looks at Pacioretty and then continues?

I do not think the Penguins get any preferential treatment in cases like this.

I just do not think there is much (any) consistency in some of the bans and I think Shanahans logic for suspending Pacioretty at least partially goes against what he said when not suspending Malone.

Plus some players get this:
"They were regarding his intent; at what point did he know there was going to be a collision; and whether or not he felt he had the time to avoid the collision. I was satisfied with his answers."

That last part bothers me...because that just makes it seem like Shanny plays favorites. I can just see it being like a father calling his favorite son into the den. "Timmy, did you break the lamp?" "I'm sowwy daddy, I didn't mean to, I tried to dodge it! I didn't see it til the last minute!" "It's okay Timmy, just be careful next time." Then he calls in the step child "JOHNNY?! Did you scratch my favorite Josh Groban CD?!" "I did. I'm sorry, I won't do it again." "For shame! You are grounded for 3 weeks!"

Seriously, you're going to ask a guy what his intent was? There may be a small percentage that says they intentionally cheap shotted another guy, but really?

 

[SLY]

Don't forget that he's still faking a concussion and whiplash in the hopes that Shanny changes his mind.

No shit. Recchi said so.

 

[dash]

And when I went off about the inconsistency of Der Shanny, I was mocked. MOCKED.

Campbell is still is running things, Shanny is just the infomercial guy. I just KNOW it.

I'll just add my two cents and say that I think Shanny scared the bejeesus out of NHL GM's in the pre-season with the number and length of suspensions which resulted in some back room conversations with certain individuals that hold a lot of power in the NHL. I think they basically told the Sheriff to cool his jets with the ban hammer and the end result has been some inconsistent decisions.

 

[SLY]

I'll just add my two cents and say that I think Shanny scared the bejeesus out of NHL GM's in the pre-season with the number and length of suspensions which resulted in some back room conversations with certain individuals that hold a lot of power in the NHL. I think they basically told the Sheriff to cool his jets with the ban hammer and the end result has been some inconsistent decisions.

Highly likely.

 

[IPostedWhat]

I'll just add my two cents and say that I think Shanny scared the bejeesus out of NHL GM's in the pre-season with the number and length of suspensions which resulted in some back room conversations with certain individuals that hold a lot of power in the NHL. I think they basically told the Sheriff to cool his jets with the ban hammer and the end result has been some inconsistent decisions.

Sounds more like you added a loonie.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

And your opinion of Lucic on Miller?

Penalty...no suspension

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Don't forget that he's still faking a concussion and whiplash in the hopes that Shanny changes his mind.

Taking a page out of Crosby's book I see...


Touche Miller

 

[SLY]

 

[Automattic]

Did anybody file the police report yet?

 

[Dacks]

You know what, I just watched Shanahan's explanation on both the Malone hit and the Pacioretty hit, and I think his explanation makes sense.

Campoli loses the puck and while reaching for it significantly changes his head position. Consequently Malone, who otherwise was going in for a non-blindside, legal hit, did not have reasonable time to adjust.

On the other hand, Letang's head position did not change immediately prior to the hit. Pacioretty did not do enough to avoid hitting primarily the head, and he didn't have an excuse like Malone did.

Now, you might disagree with that assessment, but I certainly don't think it's as random as the old wheel of justice. Shanahan lays out his points clearly, and there is logic to his assessment. You or I might see it differently, but I think we should all make an effort to understand his reasoning.

Also, bringing up the Chara hit is pretty unfair to Shanahan here, and although I think he made the wrong call regarding Lucic / Miller, they two plays aren't really that comparable.

 

[Dacks]

Oh, and for the record, I would have only suspended Pacs for two games, and I probably would have suspended Malone for one as well. I just don't think the comparisons between Shanahan are Campbell are merited. Yet. Nobody had any idea what Campbell's logic was, if it existed at all. I can at least see where Shanny is coming from here.

 

[Automattic]

I wonder how many of these plays that Shanny reviews remind him of certain situations when he was playing. Almost like he is thinking "Oh, that happened to me once!" and judges a little differently. Just a thought.

 

[IPostedWhat]

How many players have been Shanabanned so far now?

15-20?

 

[IPostedWhat]

How many players have been Shanabanned so far now?

15-20?

Looks like the answer is 17.

 

[Comeds]

You know what, I just watched Shanahan's explanation on both the Malone hit and the Pacioretty hit, and I think his explanation makes sense.

Campoli loses the puck and while reaching for it significantly changes his head position. Consequently Malone, who otherwise was going in for a non-blindside, legal hit, did not have reasonable time to adjust.

On the other hand, Letang's head position did not change immediately prior to the hit. Pacioretty did not do enough to avoid hitting primarily the head, and he didn't have an excuse like Malone did.

Now, you might disagree with that assessment, but I certainly don't think it's as random as the old wheel of justice. Shanahan lays out his points clearly, and there is logic to his assessment. You or I might see it differently, but I think we should all make an effort to understand his reasoning.

I think both Campoli and Letang put themselves in a vulnerable position. I certainly think there was enough of a lean by Letang to make his head more of a target than it would have been. And Shanahan's quotes today seem to be opposite of some of the ones he said for Malone.

If you are going to say the onus “was on Pacioretty to make sure he didn’t make Letang’s head the principal point of contact” and state that even if Letang leaning into his shot changed the angle “it is still his reponsibility to make principal contact through the core of Letang’s body”
in this case, I do not see how he could say the somewhat opposite in the other case.

Again, how is it a blindside hit if Letang looked at Pacioretty well before the hit? Shanahan doesn't even term the hit a blindside one he just calls it an illegal hit to the head. Just like Malone's was. To me if you suspend one of the hitters you have to suspend the other. And vice versa.

But I guess the wheel didnt land there.

 

[juliansteed]

Without having seen the Malone hit that some are comparing this one to, I was thinking 1 game maybe 2 tops would be reasonable. Not surprised at all that he got suspended but 3 is a bit more than I was expecting for a 1st time offender for that type of play where there really didn't appear to be any intent. These are the types of hits that really make Shanahan's (and the refs') job a tough one sometimes.