Official Mariners trade deadline rumors/armchair GM thread

[seahawksfan234]

Mariners Minors‏ @MiLBMariners 43s43 seconds ago

Kyle Lewis taken out of the game as Luis Liberato pinch hits for him in the 4th.

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Traded? Hurt? Great talent but will body hold up?

Have to assume an injury. If he was going to be traded, we probably would've heard whispers by now.

 

[NWinAZ]

Have to assume an injury. If he was going to be traded, we probably would've heard whispers by now.

Greg Johns‏Verified account @GregJohnsMLB 2m2 minutes ago

Dipoto says Kyle Lewis taken out of game tonight due to soreness in knee and is day to day. Not a structural issue. (And not a trade ...).

 

[NWinAZ]

Greg Johns‏Verified account @GregJohnsMLB 2m2 minutes ago

Dipoto says Kyle Lewis taken out of game tonight due to soreness in knee and is day to day. Not a structural issue. (And not a trade ...).

I don't see any team taking a chance on trading for this guy this year. This is the second or third time he has been pulled with knee issues this year.

 

[NWinAZ]

Mariners Minors‏ @MiLBMariners 4m4 minutes ago
Mariners Minors Retweeted

Lewis ran hard to 1st & then had a hard stop at 3rd but he did play CF the next inning. https://twitter.com/ryandivish/status/889687195405000705 …

 

[wazzu31]

Maybe a package of Kyle Lewis, Neidert and Vogelbach? Not sure.

I don't even think that'd be close with Oakland in our division. I think Haniger or Gamel would have to be included plus Moore. If they want to make any trade for any real help a GM isn't going to answer the call unless either Lewis is for sale or they are going to eat the entire contract.

Personally I thought Verlander for O'Neill and a PTBNL with Seattle taking on all of the contract should've satisfied Detroit. They got less than O'Neill for Martinez.

 

[NWinAZ]

I don't even think that'd be close with Oakland in our division. I think Haniger or Gamel would have to be included plus Moore. If they want to make any trade for any real help a GM isn't going to answer the call unless either Lewis is for sale or they are going to eat the entire contract.

I agree and thought this earlier. It would have to be a young, MLB proven player and some young pitching. Moore makes sense. I just see the need to do it when you can sign a vet in the off season. We are more that Gray away from a playoff spot.

Personally I thought Verlander for O'Neill and a PTBNL with Seattle taking on all of the contract should've satisfied Detroit. They got less than O'Neill for Martinez.

I said this last week. Verlander and Miller for O'Neill and some pieces. I thought it made sense for both sides, but why trade for a vet when you can get an unknown?...with a broken wing...

 

[unlvmariners]

I don't see any team taking a chance on trading for this guy this year. This is the second or third time he has been pulled with knee issues this year.

I agree, I actually think he doesn't have much value in terms of a trade right now. He is injured too often. the guy has 200 plate appearances in the minors. He needs a full healthy season so we can see what kind of player he actually is.

 

[NWinAZ]

I agree, I actually think he doesn't have much value in terms of a trade right now. He is injured too often. the guy has 200 plate appearances in the minors. He needs a full healthy season so we can see what kind of player he actually is.

I totally agree, but I actually would have had less problem if we traded Lewis instead of O'Neill in the same deal. Trading an injury unknown for an injury unknown made more sense to me than what JD did.

 

[unlvmariners]

I totally agree, but I actually would have had less problem if we traded Lewis instead of O'Neill in the same deal. Trading an injury unknown for an injury unknown made more sense to me than what JD did.

absolutely, Plus Lewis is much further away from being relevant at the mlb level than O'Neill was. I know a lot of people are saying we have depth in the OF because Gamel, Heredia and Haniger have been pretty good for the most part. But in a lot of ways they are still "unproven" each of those guys have very limited experience at this point, we have seen prospects do well to start and fall flat on their face the next season and beyond. When evaluating a player it is a very fluid process especially with young guys. The O'Neill trade is so crazy to me I still can't believe it happened. The thinking that Dip has is not following a logical building plan

 

[PolarVortex]

Replacing Motter with Espinosa makes no sense to me. Espinosa is hitting .162 and Motter has as much if not more defensive versatility as Espinosa. And Espinosa has shitty hair too.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I agree and thought this earlier. It would have to be a young, MLB proven player and some young pitching. Moore makes sense. I just see the need to do it when you can sign a vet in the off season. We are more that Gray away from a playoff spot.



I said this last week. Verlander and Miller for O'Neill and some pieces. I thought it made sense for both sides, but why trade for a vet when you can get an unknown?...with a broken wing...

Initially I would've thought that O'Neill would've been too much for Verlander unless the Tigers ate a significant portion of Verlander's contract.

Now I'm wishing we would've just traded O'Neill for Verlander and ate Verlander's contract ourselves.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Replacing Motter with Espinosa makes no sense to me. Espinosa is hitting .162 and Motter has as much if not more defensive versatility as Espinosa. And Espinosa has shitty hair too.

Also Motter has more upside. Maybe the Mariners wanted him down in AAA to work on some stuff instead of wasting away on the bench.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I totally agree, but I actually would have had less problem if we traded Lewis instead of O'Neill in the same deal. Trading an injury unknown for an injury unknown made more sense to me than what JD did.

Tbh I didn't really even think about trading Lewis. I probably would've preferred that to O'Neill. I'd say that O'Neill is a safer prospect at this point given his lack of injury history, strong minor league track record and close proximity to the majors.

Lewis doesn't really have any of those things on his resume.

 

[PolarVortex]

Also Motter has more upside. Maybe the Mariners wanted him down in AAA to work on some stuff instead of wasting away on the bench.

Good point.

 

[mcnabb7542]

Also Motter has more upside. Maybe the Mariners wanted him down in AAA to work on some stuff instead of wasting away on the bench.

I think that was a major part, no sense letting him sit game after game. He needs the AB's and working on his defense.....

 

[Anointed One]

I'd prefer we don't make moves for this year... We're not going to get to the WS with the pitching issues we have. We need at least 2 starters and another set up guy in the bullpen imo to have a shot...

 

[seahawksfan234]

I'd prefer we don't make moves for this year... We're not going to get to the WS with the pitching issues we have. We need at least 2 starters and another set up guy in the bullpen imo to have a shot...

Obviously it would help to add another quality arm to the bullpen, but going forward I'm actually fairly comfortable with the guys the Mariners have in the pen right now.

Edwin Diaz: 3.24 ERA
Marc Rzepcynski: 3.57 ERA
Nick Vincent: 1.96 ERA
Emilio Pagan: 2.57 ERA
James Pazos: 4.10 ERA
David Phelps: 3.28 ERA
Steve Cishek: 3.57 ERA

The M's could use another dominant arm, but the much bigger concern right now is at SP. Also the pitching in general has improved over the last month or so. I believe if the Mariners add another starting pitcher and play more consistently, they're a playoff contender.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Obviously it would help to add another quality arm to the bullpen, but going forward I'm actually fairly comfortable with the guys the Mariners have in the pen right now.

Edwin Diaz: 3.24 ERA
Marc Rzepcynski: 3.57 ERA
Nick Vincent: 1.96 ERA
Emilio Pagan: 2.57 ERA
James Pazos: 4.10 ERA
David Phelps: 3.28 ERA
Steve Cishek: 3.57 ERA

The M's could use another dominant arm, but the much bigger concern right now is at SP. Also the pitching in general has improved over the last month or so. I believe if the Mariners add another starting pitcher and play more consistently, they're a playoff contender.

Forgot Tony Zych: 1.99 ERA.

 

[NWinAZ]

Maybe the Mariners wanted him down in AAA to work on some stuff instead of wasting away on the bench.

Like working on getting into a game in the 9th inning of a two run game and not getting picked off on the first play? Ya, he could use some work on that.

Motter is actually just a Bloomquist with a little less speed...and a lot more hair. I would have said with more power, but that ran out in April.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Like working on getting into a game in the 9th inning of a two run game and not getting picked off on the first play? Ya, he could use some work on that.

Motter is actually just a Bloomquist with a little less speed...and a lot more hair. I would have said with more power, but that ran out in April.

I'd say a lot more power and roughly equivalent speed. I don't believe Bloomquist hit more than 20 career HRs and he had a pretty long career.