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So, you start the rookie??? Absolutely not!!

SN: Green Bay has proven yet again why sitting rookie QBs should be the norm.
You pick a guy top 2 he has to start or else the advantage of the 5 yr window goes away .
 

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You pick a guy top 2 he has to start or else the advantage of the 5 yr window goes away .
The 5-year window only applies to the 5th-year option, to date Lamar Jackson is the singular QB that didn't get a new contract until that 5th year kicked in. Sitting the new guy keeps that 5th-year option in play if it becomes necessary because you're still unsure of what you have. To me, if you're still unsure 4 years in, then perhaps it's time to consider drafting another guy.
 

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The 5-year window only applies to the 5th-year option, to date Lamar Jackson is the singular QB that didn't get a new contract until that 5th year kicked in. Sitting the new guy keeps that 5th-year option in play if it becomes necessary because you're still unsure of what you have. To me, if you're still unsure 4 years in, then perhaps it's time to consider drafting another guy.
To me if you draft a guy at 2 as your savior franchise qb he starts day one or you blew the pick . You hope he is one of the best
 

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Stroud has done just fine
Exactly!! He is the exceptional player that you're looking for in the QB position. You know it when you see it, and dollars to doughnuts if he holds to form there won't be a 5th year option question.
 

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Exactly!! He is the exceptional player that you're looking for in the QB position. You know it when you see it, and dollars to doughnuts if he holds to form there won't be a 5th year option question.
Stroud started year one , day one
 

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To me if you draft a guy at 2 as your savior franchise qb he starts day one or you blew the pick . You hope he is one of the best
Your language betrays you, sir! At some point, the dysfunction has to stop! There's no such thing as a "savior franchise QB."
 

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Drafting a guy at 2/3 overall you are saying this is an elite player , the exceptional one , . If he is not the you blew the pick and overdrafted said player . Now either you believe he is that player or you don’t . He takes his lumps yr one and you go from there
 

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Your language betrays you, sir! At some point, the dysfunction has to stop! There's no such thing as a "savior franchise QB."
Absolutely is such a thing . Every elite qb who has played the game is one . The dysfunctional days are done with a new owner and new organization. New and better coaching . Better drafting .
 

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Stroud started year one , day one
Different strokes for different folks, there's no one-size-fits-all strategy when dealing with people! Time, place, and circumstance, all play a role in these things. Washington will be approaching with someone new to ownership, dependent upon his own rookie hires, and all within an organization not noted for developing players. It screams of taking an initial more cautious approach.
 

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Drafting a guy at 2/3 overall you are saying this is an elite player , the exceptional one , . If he is not the you blew the pick and overdrafted said player . Now either you believe he is that player or you don’t . He takes his lumps yr one and you go from there
No sir, what it says is that the team won't apply the old "sink or swim" approach but rather an approach that offers the new guy time to master the playbook, learn from mentors, work on his shortcomings, and is better equipped to be successful in ways that the "sink or swim" method doesn't make allowances for. I cannot say it enough, the vast majority of "busts" result from organizational dysfunction.
 

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Absolutely is such a thing . Every elite qb who has played the game is one . The dysfunctional days are done with a new owner and new organization. New and better coaching . Better drafting .
That's language used in public conversations and it has no application within the game or by those running it. Honestly, when was the last time or any time that an NFL executive or coach used such language about their QB?
 

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No sir, what it says is that the team won't apply the old "sink or swim" approach but rather an approach that offers the new guy time to master the playbook, learn from mentors, work on his shortcomings, and is better equipped to be successful in ways that the "sink or swim" method doesn't make allowances for. I cannot say it enough, the vast majority of "busts" result from organizational dysfunction.
The why not draft him later if he isn’t elite ? You draft anyone in the top 3 you are saying he is elite as a talent
 

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That's language used in public conversations and it has no application within the game or by those running it. Honestly, when was the last time or any time that an NFL executive or coach used such language about their QB?
NFL execs won’t say that in public until after the fact .
 

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The why not draft him later if he isn’t elite ? You draft anyone in the top 3 you are saying he is elite as a talent
OMG, this cannot be happening! Two things can be true at the same time my friend!
 

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NFL execs won’t say that in public until after the fact .
Not one has ever used "Savior franchise QB" to describe their guy before or after the fact. Some people (not me) see Brady as the G.O.A.T at QB and no team that he's ever played on refers to him using a term that begins with "Savior"
 

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Swing big your picking at 2 might never be there again ever if you like both qbs take one period and if you do trade Howells draft weekend .. Since Harris said he likes the Ravens FO I will Assume Ravens DC McDonald's or something like that is his top target and maybe some Front office guys
 

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Exactly!! He is the exceptional player that you're looking for in the QB position. You know it when you see it, and dollars to doughnuts if he holds to form there won't be a 5th year option question.

You will always exercise the fifth year option and then give the extension on top.
 

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Why on gods green earth would you draft anything other then an elite player at 2. ? And as such you should expect that player to start day one . Now I am being told the qbs at the top of this class are franchise qbs . The savior type because 12-15 types are not good enough . If you pick one at 2 in this day and age he has to start day one . You sit project types not elite savior types
 
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