Series Thread: Saints: Post Game.

[skinsdad62]

So would I. But I still would kick the FG. The guy is a pro and has been for a few years. You can’t shy away from your kicker just because it’s his first week.

I absolutely can when he missed a 41 yd one earlier that was reversed on a penalty . I trust my punter way . And again the strategy actually failed , he missed it and they gave up the TD .

 

[skinz2winz]

Anything from 45 on in should be considered safe. Just make the f'ing kick. Stupid azz kicker as Peyton would say.

 

[gkekoa]

So. It's not rocket science. He's a kicker, it was a kick. He's made FGs longer in his career..

Yeah, I thought we had a decent one in Siebert.


A 3rd stringer who led the Saints on 4 straight scoring drives doing a decent Clint Longley impersonation. And I get the Saints going for 2 n all, but that might've worked in the Skins favor as they were clearly reeling. The Saints had taken control of the game at that point, both defensively n offensively.

And the only reasons to attempt a FG is the opponents 37 yd ln is a nomand's land in today's NFL. A punt may hurt more than help a team from there. A made FG though wins the game right there.

You should've looked up the info yourself n you said 40% which was way wrong.

For the record 17-30 is 56%.

I agree it is not rocket science but there is a huge misconception of the snap, holder, and kicker continuity and how much it matters. He is also a tad over 50% in his career over 50. I would say the odds are much greater we win via defense than making that FG.

Three scoring drives but only one TD…and they needed the TD.

Like I said, I believe he analytics would have showed we have a better win % there by punt.

Actually, I didn’t need to look it up because i was not arguing his point for him.

 

[Sportster 72]

I agree it is not rocket science but there is a huge misconception of the snap, holder, and kicker continuity and how much it matters. He is also a tad over 50% in his career over 50. I would say the odds are much greater we win via defense than making that FG.

Three scoring drives but only one TD…and they needed the TD.

Like I said, I believe he analytics would have showed we have a better win % there by punt.

Actually, I didn’t need to look it up because i was not arguing his point for him.

I am with you on the snapper, holder and kicker. It isn't a mystery meat sandwich.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I can understand a coach wanting to go for the FG. Had Derek Carr been the QB, I would have gone for the FG. Had it been 10 yards closer, I would have gone for the FG. Had the Saints been scoring and moving the ball well, I would have gone for the FG.

None of those things were there.

A touchback was possible…he had done it twice this season. He also had 17 inside the 20. Even if he had got a touchback, possible but not likely, the Saints needed every second of the game plus an extra couple of seconds from the referees to go as far as they did. 16 yards would have been a far different outcome probably.

Yeah I thought about that. Those 16 yards would have been the difference. But then I came to my senses and realized if they were backed up to the 20 the Saints would have called different plays, certainly not 2 running plays early. So you can't just assume they would have gone the same distance in the same amount of time had they started at the 20. As posted by j_y the Saints were going up and down the field and had all the momentum at that point in the game. By punting you just kept them in the game. But as I said I was on the fence because I did not think he was going to make it but I can see why they tried.

As for the kick and to your other point as soon as I saw the bad snap I knew he was going to miss. This happens all the time including a few weels ago, a bad snap throws off the timing. Once again we have a long snapper issue.

 

[deanpet21]

what is lost here that it's in a dome. So, everyone's FG range gets extended. a 54yard FG attempt is different if you are in a dome vs outside. No WIND! IMO it was the right call for an FG try to end the game. You can't blame DQ for the call and you can't blame KK for his play calls. They had 4 shots to close it out. None of those were on KK. We did not get out coached this game.

 

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[skinsdad62]

what is lost here that it's in a dome. So, everyone's FG range gets extended. a 54yard FG attempt is different if you are in a dome vs outside. No WIND! IMO it was the right call for an FG try to end the game. You can't blame DQ for the call and you can't blame KK for his play calls. They had 4 shots to close it out. None of those were on KK. We did not get out coached this game.

it was the wrong call as it turned out , the so called easy kick missed and we gave them a short field the snap was bad as well messing up the rhythm. . you punt the ball and make the rookie qb without kamara go the distance

 

[deanpet21]

it was the wrong call as it turned out , the so called easy kick missed and we gave them a short field the snap was bad as well messing up the rhythm. . you punt the ball and make the rookie qb without kamara go the distance

i didn't say it was an easy kick. Not the wrong call at all at that particular time in the game.

 

[skinsdad62]

i didn't say it was an easy kick. Not the wrong call at all at that particular time in the game.

absolutely the wrong call as the strategy absolutely failed and nearly cost us the game . thats on tape

 

[gkekoa]

what is lost here that it's in a dome. So, everyone's FG range gets extended. a 54yard FG attempt is different if you are in a dome vs outside. No WIND! IMO it was the right call for an FG try to end the game. You can't blame DQ for the call and you can't blame KK for his play calls. They had 4 shots to close it out. None of those were on KK. We did not get out coached this game.

Nobody is missing it is a dome. We all acknowledge it is a dome. You fail to acknowledge the other 5 reasons not to kick the FG.

You can absolutely blame DQ for that singular call.

 

[j_y19]

absolutely the wrong call as the strategy absolutely failed and nearly cost us the game . thats on tape

This is assuming we can stop them from the twenty. I saw no evidence of that in the second half. Also, just because the execution failed doesnt necessarily mean the strategy was bad.

 

[deanpet21]

absolutely the wrong call as the strategy absolutely failed and nearly cost us the game . thats on tape

right the defense gave up the TD.

 

[deanpet21]

Nobody is missing it is a dome. We all acknowledge it is a dome. You fail to acknowledge the other 5 reasons not to kick the FG.

You can absolutely blame DQ for that singular call.

you fail to acknowledge that a 54 yard dome kick will be taken every time to win a game.

 

[skinsdad62]

This is assuming we can stop them from the twenty. I saw no evidence of that in the second half. Also, just because the execution failed doesnt necessarily mean the strategy was bad.

So we just give it to them 56 yds away ? No yog make that rookie go the distance

 

[skinsdad62]

you fail to acknowledge that a 54 yard dome kick will be taken every time to win a game.

Not with a shaky 5th kicker of the season who was there 4 days prior sharing reps with gonzo . Who botched a 41yarder.

 

[deanpet21]

Not with a shaky 5th kicker of the season who was there 4 days prior sharing reps with gonzo . Who botched a 41yarder.

that was a free kick as time expired. experience kicker. you have to rely on your kicker in that situation. he failed and gonzo is the kicker when healthy.

 

[skinsdad62]

that was a free kick as time expired. experience kicker. you have to rely on your kicker in that situation. he failed and gonzo is the kicker when healthy.

Hence you punt

 

[deanpet21]

Hence you punt

totally disagree.

 

[skinsdad62]