Series Thread: Saints: Post Game.

[gkekoa]

I'll comment as much as I want, you don't get to make that decision.

And then you get mad because I jokingly say you must hate blind people.

Nobody said don’t comment. Just don’t get mad when people comment back.

 

[gkekoa]

What's with the fucking name calling dickhead, I let the first couple go. Many of your posts that I am not involved in you talk down to people. I am sure I know as much football as you do.

You stated, “you are a legend in your own mind.” Not name calling but insulting.

You stated, “that was a fifth grade comment”, insinuating I the comment was juvenile about hating blind people.


I then stated, “you are too dense,“ also not name calling but insulting.


Which ones did you let go exactly?

Listing literal facts is not talking down to people.

Maybe you do but if I state something is 50/50 and the other guy literally shows the stat is 2 to 17…I say you are correct. I don’t stand by my incorrect assertion.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I will debate you on this. There were 3 seconds lost. Several points here...
1. Sideline referee is running onto the field after the tackle signaling time out by waving his arms above his head thus
2. Clock operator see's this and stops the clock and, because of it inadvertently letting 3 seconds elapse (I counted)
3. Please and why was D. Forrest in the game? He played the TD catch as horribly as BSJ would have.

If in fact 3 seconds elapsed the game is over.

I've been counting the time all day and I still get 2 seconds every single time. When I start counting at 10 I get to 6 when the play clock is back and at 8. You can't use the game clock as they are not in sequence. Agree to disagree I guess.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

He is still getting PT and I would bring him back next season for a mil or two per season.

BSJ played 3 snaps against the Saints. And that was enough for him to get yet another critical penalty that negated a 3rd down sack. Why on Earth are you promoting this guy, you actually want him back? No he will not be back.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I was on the fence about the FG at the end. I thought it was a risk but I can see why the coach would want to end the game when he had a chance.I have to point out that just because Tress is 17 for 19 or whatever does not mean he is capable of dropping a punt from the 36, or the 41 after they took a delay of game. A touchback was very possible and then you netted 16 yards.

 

[chillerdab]

What's with the fucking name calling dickhead, I let the first couple go. Many of your posts that I am not involved in you talk down to people. I am sure I know as much football as you do.

Oh, the irony.

 

[gkekoa]

BSJ played 3 snaps against the Saints. And that was enough for him to get yet another critical penalty that negated a 3rd down sack. Why on Earth are you promoting this guy, you actually want him back? No he will not be back.

I am not promoting him. i want him back as a fourth or fifth corner at a very low deal. I am not wanting him to come close to starting.

 

[gkekoa]

I was on the fence about the FG at the end. I thought it was a risk but I can see why the coach would want to end the game when he had a chance.I have to point out that just because Tress is 17 for 19 or whatever does not mean he is capable of dropping a punt from the 36, or the 41 after they took a delay of game. A touchback was very possible and then you netted 16 yards.

I can understand a coach wanting to go for the FG. Had Derek Carr been the QB, I would have gone for the FG. Had it been 10 yards closer, I would have gone for the FG. Had the Saints been scoring and moving the ball well, I would have gone for the FG.

None of those things were there.

A touchback was possible…he had done it twice this season. He also had 17 inside the 20. Even if he had got a touchback, possible but not likely, the Saints needed every second of the game plus an extra couple of seconds from the referees to go as far as they did. 16 yards would have been a far different outcome probably.

 

[j_y19]

I can understand a coach wanting to go for the FG. Had Derek Carr been the QB, I would have gone for the FG. Had it been 10 yards closer, I would have gone for the FG. Had the Saints been scoring and moving the ball well, I would have gone for the FG.

None of those things were there.

A touchback was possible…he had done it twice this season. He also had 17 inside the 20. Even if he had got a touchback, possible but not likely, the Saints needed every second of the game plus an extra couple of seconds from the referees to go as far as they did. 16 yards would have been a far different outcome probably.

Not sure what game you were watching, but the saints were going up and down the field in the second half. They were moving the ball at will.

 

[gkekoa]

Not sure what game you were watching, but the saints were going up and down the field in the second half. They were moving the ball at will.

The Saints needed a TD, with only 1:55 minutes left. In the second half, they went

TD- 6 plays, 71 yards in 2:27.

FG- 9 plays, 51 yards in 3:57.

FG- 7 plays, 59 yards, in 1:09.

TD- 11 plays, 56 yards, in 1:55. Four of those plays were runs and went for 28 yards. They would have never been running the ball had they needed to go 80 yards, and if they had, they would have ran out of time.

 

[Stymietee]

Absolutely punting was an option

What are your thoughts on his confidence in special teams, defending against a return after the Dallas debacle?

 

[Breed]

The kid today has been here for a week

So. It's not rocket science. He's a kicker, it was a kick. He's made FGs longer in his career..

He is our fifth kicker of the season

Yeah, I thought we had a decent one in Siebert.

We were facing a second or third string QB.

There was 2 minutes to go in the game.

The opponent had only scored 13 points in 58 minutes.

A 3rd stringer who led the Saints on 4 straight scoring drives doing a decent Clint Longley impersonation. And I get the Saints going for 2 n all, but that might've worked in the Skins favor as they were clearly reeling. The Saints had taken control of the game at that point, both defensively n offensively.

All of these are reasons to punt the ball away. The 50% number wasn’t mine. Somebody else used it in the discussion with me. For the record, Joseph is 17-30 in his career from 50+.

And the only reasons to attempt a FG is the opponents 37 yd ln is a nomand's land in today's NFL. A punt may hurt more than help a team from there. A made FG though wins the game right there.

You should've looked up the info yourself n you said 40% which was way wrong.

For the record 17-30 is 56%.

 

[Stymietee]

I was on the fence about the FG at the end. I thought it was a risk but I can see why the coach would want to end the game when he had a chance.I have to point out that just because Tress is 17 for 19 or whatever does not mean he is capable of dropping a punt from the 36, or the 41 after they took a delay of game. A touchback was very possible and then you netted 16 yards.

There must have been real concerns about defending against a punt return, after the return defense failures in the previous (Dallas) game.

 

[deanpet21]

He is still getting PT and I would bring him back next season for a mil or two per season.

lol he had like 3 snaps yesterday.

 

[skinsdad62]

There must have been real concerns about defending against a punt return, after the return defense failures in the previous (Dallas) game.

I don’t buy that . We messed up on a kick return not a punt return

 

[skinsdad62]

So. It's not rocket science. He's a kicker, it was a kick. He's made FGs longer in his career..

Yeah, I thought we had a decent one in Siebert.


A 3rd stringer who led the Saints on 4 straight scoring drives doing a decent Clint Longley impersonation. And I get the Saints going for 2 n all, but that might've worked in the Skins favor as they were clearly reeling. The Saints had taken control of the game at that point, both defensively n offensively.

And the only reasons to attempt a FG is the opponents 37 yd ln is a nomand's land in today's NFL. A punt may hurt more than help a team from there. A made FG though wins the game right there.

You should've looked up the info yourself n you said 40% which was way wrong.

For the record 17-30 is 56%.

Nope , if it’s a touchback it’s 80 yds to go . If we pin them back even more . If you go for it and miss it it’s at the 37 , not the 44 . He missed it horribly, and forbid it got blocked as long Fga’s tend to do especially with a new trio working it . The strategy also failed He missed the kick , demoralized the defense who gave up the TD on a short field and only divine intervention stopped the 2pt conversion.

 

[j_y19]

conversion.

The Saints needed a TD, with only 1:55 minutes left. In the second half, they went

TD- 6 plays, 71 yards in 2:27.

FG- 9 plays, 51 yards in 3:57.

FG- 7 plays, 59 yards, in 1:09.

TD- 11 plays, 56 yards, in 1:55. Four of those plays were runs and went for 28 yards. They would have never been running the ball had they needed to go 80 yards, and if they had, they would have ran out of time.

hence, they were moving the ball at will.

 

[skinsdad62]

hence, they were moving the ball at will.

Sorry but I would rather then go 80 then 56 .

 

[j_y19]

Sorry but I would rather then go 80 then 56 .

So would I. But I still would kick the FG. The guy is a pro and has been for a few years. You can’t shy away from your kicker just because it’s his first week.