Series Thread: Saints: Post Game.

[gkekoa]

Who is this "Fag" you are referring to? Is the new kicker gay?

FG…not shire how it changed to that word.

 

[gkekoa]

that was a ugly game. Told you BSJ would be the odd man out when Lattiore plays

I didn’t really argue this with you. I don’t care what they choose.

 

[gkekoa]

Joseph is an experienced kicker and has been in the league. He is not a rookie kicker. In the dome he went for the win. Cant fault DQ for that.

Nobody claimed he was a rookie kicker. Nobody claimed he wasn't in a dome. We can blame Dan Quinn for not taking all variables into account. Analytics would have said punt and it would not have been close.

 

[gkekoa]

Missing Ertz and Ekeler and missing BadAss hurt but welcome to the NFL.

Greg Joseph is not a 4th string kicker he is a 6 year NFL vet so I refute that comment.

If you don't like my 50% chance of a touchback a lot I don't care. I am entitled to that opinion. You can't say I am wrong you can say you don't agree. Both of us are guessing.

They stopped the 2 point play so the D did enough to win. One might wonder why Spencer Rattler had so much success when Hainer stunk up the joint.

Terry slowed, Jayden compensated equals incompletions. Like I said he was throwing dimes earlier in the year. Why not now?

I am well aware that it was ONE game for 23 and he still has to go against AJ Brown and/or Devonte Smith. Want St. Juste back? I am also aware that NO knows his strengths and decided to stay away from him.

Forget Philly, that is a loss or the Eagles screwed up. Saquon is going to run wild. Need to beat Atlanta or Dallas. Seattle and the Rams still play each other. After next weekend Washington should be 1 game up for the WC. 10 wins gives them a good chance to get in and 11 guarantees it. They are playing for the last playoff spot.

I didn’t get to watch the game and didn’t realize Bad Ass didn’t play. That explains a lot about the OL.

Brandon McManus, Seifert, Gonzalez, York, and now Joseph. You are right…fifth string kicker, not fourth.

It isn’t that I don’t like your 50% chance…it is just untrue and I showed you it is untrue.

The defense did not prevent anything. The Saints chose to go for two. The defense did not do their jobs.

JD threw a number of dimes in the game. I saw the overthrow, TM had slowed up.

Did it sound like I want BSJ back?

 

[gkekoa]

This isn't the 70s. 28 kickers have kicked a FG of 54 or more yards in the NFL this year. Only 3 of them are hitting under 50% from that distance and one of them is Austin Seibert who's 2/5 as a Redskin. I'm not saying a 50+ yarder is a gimme, but its not a 40% thing either. The kid today had the leg for it, he simply didn't get done.

The kid today has been here for a week.

He is our fifth kicker of the season.

We were facing a second or third string QB.

There was 2 minutes to go in the game.

The opponent had only scored 13 points in 58 minutes.


All of these are reasons to punt the ball away. The 50% number wasn’t mine. Somebody else used it in the discussion with me. For the record, Joseph is 17-30 in his career from 50+.

 

[Sportster 72]

I didn’t get to watch the game and didn’t realize Bad Ass didn’t play. That explains a lot about the OL.

Brandon McManus, Seifert, Gonzalez, York, and now Joseph. You are right…fifth string kicker, not fourth.

It isn’t that I don’t like your 50% chance…it is just untrue and I showed you it is untrue.

The defense did not prevent anything. The Saints chose to go for two. The defense did not do their jobs.

JD threw a number of dimes in the game. I saw the overthrow, TM had slowed up.

Did it sound like I want BSJ back?

You didn't prove anything to me, we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[skinsdad62]

why when you can end the game with the Fg? Joseph is a vet kicker he should be able to make it. We got a bad snap that could have screwed up things. You have to have confidence in your kicker to win games when you take the field. Outdoors different story b/c of the distance.

you dont put in a new kicker and say hit from 54 yards and give the saints a short field . at best joseph is unproven with us and the strategy failed has they got the TD on a short field

 

[Sportster 72]

Although there are no rules against you are commenting on a game you didn't see? That's a bit odd.

 

[Sportster 72]

you dont put in a new kicker and say hit from 54 yards and give the saints a short field . at best joseph is unproven with us and the strategy failed has they got the TD on a short field

I can see this playing out either way. He had plenty of leg but was wide right. If he makes it then it is game over. As it was the game clock got screwed up or it likely never happens anyway.

54 yard FGs have become almost the norm. Week in and week out we are seeing them made.

 

[j_y19]

it was a bad choice . pin them back and make them go the length of the field josepth was out of a job for a reason and he was our 6TH kicker . and the kicker missed the FG which gave them the short field INDOORS . bad choice period

Quinn would have been beat senseless if he punted from the 37 yard line. His only choice was to either go for it or kick a FG. Punting wasn’t an option.

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

Quinn would have been beat senseless if he punted from the 37 yard line. His only choice was to either go for it or kick a FG. Punting wasn’t an option.

Absolutely punting was an option

 

[skinz2winz]

This team’s success rate in the red zone is very good this year. As for the play calling, do you think the fact that we had a back up center, who was struggling, had a effect on the play calling?

This is the NFL, next man up and more importantly, MAN UP!!!

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinz2winz]

Isn't that the play where the receiver (was it luke or ben?) Didn't get open fast enough?
Sure the run was likely the better choice but the play was there to be made. Not disagreeing a run was probably better though

Not only was it probably better, but up 14-0 at that point, run it again on 4th down if need be. I think that non-TD changes everything.

 

[Skin'EmAll]

Someone please add some Kickers to our prospects thread. Oh crap McManus is doing work for GB. Did those ladies go to prison yet?

 

[deanpet21]

I didn’t really argue this with you. I don’t care what they choose.

yes you did but ok

 

[deanpet21]

Nobody claimed he was a rookie kicker. Nobody claimed he wasn't in a dome. We can blame Dan Quinn for not taking all variables into account. Analytics would have said punt and it would not have been close.

skinsdad said it didnt matter if the kick was inside or outside. i disagreed.

 

[deanpet21]

you dont put in a new kicker and say hit from 54 yards and give the saints a short field . at best joseph is unproven with us and the strategy failed has they got the TD on a short field

he is an experienced kicker. you cant blame DQ for trying to win the game. I know what happened. DQ asked his kicker to win the game for him. IF he missed, he thought his defense would have stopped Rattler, they didnt. well they stopped the 2 point attempt

 

[deanpet21]

predicted that.