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Series Thread: Eagles Deux: Post Game

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Agree with kbso, Lattimore allowed the defense to stack the box and and stop Barkley.

Injuries are the concern with him. Going to need another corner they can trust to backup Lattimore because St. Juste isn't that guy.

They are going up a fairly decent receivers against Atlanta and if he can't go it is going to make the game tough.
Not exactly sure when Lattimore was injured but he was clearly playing in the first quarter when Barkley went for 109 and 2 TDs in that one quarter. They were only able to stack the box once Hurts went out, it was only then that they stopped Barkley. Had nothing to do with Lattimore.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVED this trade. But so far we just can't say it has worked out, at least for this season. And we have to seriously question if he can be counted on to be available in the years to come.
 

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Not exactly sure when Lattimore was injured but he was clearly playing in the first quarter when Barkley went for 109 and 2 TDs in that one quarter. They were only able to stack the box once Hurts went out, it was only then that they stopped Barkley. Had nothing to do with Lattimore.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVED this trade. But so far we just can't say it has worked out, at least for this season. And we have to seriously question if he can be counted on to be available in the years to come.
Of course, Hurts injury had everything to do with being able to stack the box, It doesn't change the fact that Lattimore allowed the defense to stack the box after Pickett came in. Not many teams are going to shut down AJ Brown.

I don't know if you were one of the folks that was calling for a CB pickup/trade all season. At $18 million for two years I think he was worth the trade. I still support looking for a corner this off season. Washington is not getting a 4th place schedule next year. AP is going to have to keep building the team to be at 10-5 at this point next year.
 

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Not exactly sure when Lattimore was injured but he was clearly playing in the first quarter when Barkley went for 109 and 2 TDs in that one quarter. They were only able to stack the box once Hurts went out, it was only then that they stopped Barkley. Had nothing to do with Lattimore.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVED this trade. But so far we just can't say it has worked out, at least for this season. And we have to seriously question if he can be counted on to be available in the years to come.
I hear you. But AJ was getting off on BSJ and that was with Pickett in the game. You didn't see AJ running free like we're used to. Take away the two BS PIs and AJ scored on a slant and a couple of those big 4th Q catches were on BSJ.
 

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Here's the full matchup.
 

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Of course, Hurts injury had everything to do with being able to stack the box, It doesn't change the fact that Lattimore allowed the defense to stack the box after Pickett came in. Not many teams are going to shut down AJ Brown.

I don't know if you were one of the folks that was calling for a CB pickup/trade all season. At $18 million for two years I think he was worth the trade. I still support looking for a corner this off season. Washington is not getting a 4th place schedule next year. AP is going to have to keep building the team to be at 10-5 at this point next year.
As I clearly posted I LOVED the trade. But the claim they were able to stack the box and take away Barkely when he went off with Lattimore in the game is simply not true. He had little impact on this game other than the penalties. You can love the trade and also recognize that it has not worked out well at all so far.
 

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As I clearly posted I LOVED the trade. But to claim they were able to stack the box and take away Barkely when he went off with Lattimore in the game is simply not true. He had little impact on this game other than the penalties.
Watch the video and tell me what you think. Not being an ass. I'm genuinely interested in your opinion after you watch the video.
 

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As I clearly posted I LOVED the trade. But the claim they were able to stack the box and take away Barkely when he went off with Lattimore in the game is simply not true. He had little impact on this game other than the penalties. You can love the trade and also recognize that it has not worked out well at all so far.
Have to agree to disagree. Baldy showed it in one of his videos.
 

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if BSJ was in coverage with him he would have had 13 catches for almost 200 yds
 

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Watch the video and tell me what you think. Not being an ass. I'm genuinely interested in your opinion after you watch the video.
I watched it and it was a mixed bag, which you would expect going against a top receiver. I saw him give up a deep throw when he didn't read the ball and he gave up 5 completions and a TD but he did have a number of good stops as well.

One PI was a terrible call, the last one was obviously a penalty. On the one in question yes Brown was holding him off with his arm and locked into his jersey. But Lattimore then grabbed Brown's arm with both hands and prevented him from reaching for the ball. That second hand that he used to grab him right before the ball probably resulted in the flag. He gave the ref a reason to throw a flag there by grabbing his arm with both hands.

Of course my main objection was the claim that he enabled them to stack the box and stop Barkley after he ran for 100+ yards and 2 TD in the first quarter alone when Lattimore was in the game.
 
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I watched it and it was a mixed bag, which you would expect going against a top receiver. I saw him give up a deep throw when he didn't read the ball and he gave up 5 completions and a TD but he did have a number of good stops as well.

One PI was a terrible call, the last one was obviously a penalty. On the one in question yes Brown was holding him off with his arm and locked into his jersey. But Lattimore then grabbed Brown's arm with both hands and prevented him from reaching for the ball. That second hand that he used to grab him right before the ball probably resulted in the flag. He gave the ref a reason to throw a flag there by grabbing his arm with both hands.

Of course my main objection was the claim that he enabled them to stack the box and stop Barkley after he ran for 100+ yards and 2 TD in the first quarter alone when Lattimore was in the game.
That's fair. I think they stacked the box once Hurts went out. I don't think we would have been able to do that, even with Pickett, if Lattimore isn't out there. That's all I was saying. The PI where Lattimore grabbed his arm, it looked like he was trying to unhook it from his pads. I appreciate the response. Merry Christmas DGF.
 

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That's fair. I think they stacked the box once Hurts went out. I don't think we would have been able to do that, even with Pickett, if Lattimore isn't out there. That's all I was saying. The PI where Lattimore grabbed his arm, it looked like he was trying to unhook it from his pads. I appreciate the response. Merry Christmas DGF.
i think if an offensive player has his hand in the front of the defenders front shoulder pads the defender should be able to grab thatarm and remove it without a foul being called
 

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i think if an offensive player has his hand in the front of the defenders front shoulder pads the defender should be able to grab thatarm and remove it without a foul being called
Yeah that's the one I had the most problem with.

Lattimore held AJs jersey on one. Clear PI.

The one where he got his bicep was 50/50 imo. I understood it though.
 

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I thought the refereeing was uneven for both teams. I never understood the penalty where the Eagle got hit in the mouth and got the penalty. He must have said something about the refs mom.
 

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I thought the refereeing was uneven for both teams. I never understood the penalty where the Eagle got hit in the mouth and got the penalty. He must have said something about the refs mom.
Yeah that was wierd
 

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Per PFF, Brown was targeted 10 time against Lattimore and had 5 catches for 68 yards and a touchdown but 3 of those incompletions were pass breakups by Lattimore, who had to leave early with a hamstring injury.

Yes, Lattimore was flagged for three PI; however, two were complete BS, one of which wasn’t even close, while another Brown had his hand inside Lattimore’s pads and Brown should have been called.
50% completion rate against one of the best WRs in the game? I’ll take it.
 

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Its AJ Brown. He's 2 weeks in on a new team and likely not even healthy yet.
You may wanna look at some aj brown highlights, he destroys single coverage.... Lattimore did better than st. Turd would have done
Hey, I get it, It's AJ Brown. When you claim to be the best cover corner in the NFL, coming off 4-6 weeks recovery, my expectation after a massive trade and time off be for you to shut down the best. He just doesn't look like that corner anymore. Time will tell I guess. Perhaps the Saints knew what they were doing. Now he's not even healthy once more? I'll give Lattimore some lead way but not liking the trade so far.
I noticed St Turd came in and missed the one tackle we needed him to make. :L
 

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I think the Saints told you what they thought of Lattimore when they didn't throw a ball in his direction the week before.
 

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Hey, I get it, It's AJ Brown. When you claim to be the best cover corner in the NFL, coming off 4-6 weeks recovery, my expectation after a massive trade and time off be for you to shut down the best. He just doesn't look like that corner anymore. Time will tell I guess. Perhaps the Saints knew what they were doing. Now he's not even healthy once more? I'll give Lattimore some lead way but not liking the trade so far.
I noticed St Turd came in and missed the one tackle we needed him to make. :L

No, no you're not getting it. Lattimore a year ago had a game where he erased Mike Evans. Lattimore had a game where he erased Terry, he can play very well. He's not healthy but made some plays against a WR that has a reputation for destroying single double whatever. I may need to think about this but AJ is probably top 5
 

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No, no you're not getting it. Lattimore a year ago had a game where he erased Mike Evans. Lattimore had a game where he erased Terry, he can play very well. He's not healthy but made some plays against a WR that has a reputation for destroying single double whatever. I may need to think about this but AJ is probably top 5

There is an annual statement by smart people in fantasy football…don’t play Mike Evan’s against New Orleans because of Lattimore…that is now Washington.
 
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