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Not exactly sure what makes you think Roethlisberger, Carr, and Wilson are better than Ryan. Hell even Brees at this point is questionable.

I'm gonna need to see more than one great year from Ryan. See: Cam Newton, 2015, then see Cam Newton, 2016.
 

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Okay then.

I feel like this is an "whatever" type of comment, but he really is.

He was actually the MVP two years ago before his finger injury and last year the Bengals O-Line was in disarray.
 

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I feel like this is an "whatever" type of comment, but he really is.

He was actually the MVP two years ago before his finger injury and last year the Bengals O-Line was in disarray.

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Fucking lamest idea ever.
 

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What's your arbitrary subjective definition of "great?"

100+ QB rating is a good start. And you can go ahead and use arbitrary and subjective. I'm not claiming to be some QB expert here. Just one man giving his opinion.
 

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100+ QB rating is a good start. And you can go ahead and use arbitrary and subjective. I'm not claiming to be some QB expert here. Just one man giving his opinion.

So in your opinion John Elway never had a great season and his career 79.9 QB rating is very far from great.


As for Ryan IMO when a guy throws (TD/INT) 28/9 and 32/14 those are pretty great years.
 

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So in your opinion Tony Romo isn't a great QB.

He's a good QB, but he never made it far enough to be "great."

As for Ryan IMO when a guy throws (TD/INT) 28/9 and 32/14 those are pretty great years.

That's cool. It's your opinion and I'm not gonna argue against it. If that's your definition of a great year, okay then.
 

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That's cool. It's your opinion and I'm not gonna argue against it. If that's your definition of a great year, okay then.

I think it's a cumulative effect of several factors with a sprinkling of the "eye test" thrown in.

And dammit... you quoted before my edit. Here reply to this, it makes more sense and
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"So in your opinion John Elway never had a great season and his career 79.9 QB rating is very far from great."
 

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S'wrong with that? I've got him over Winston. I don't have him as the 6th best QB in the league, but I've got him over Winston.

1. Tom Brady - NE
2. Aaron Rodgers - GB
3. Ben Roethlisberger - PIT
4. Drew Brees - NO
5. Derek Carr - OAK
6. Russell Wilson - SEA
7. Matt Ryan - ATL
8. Philip Rivers - LAC
9. Eli Manning - NYG
10. Carson Palmer - AZ
11. Matthew Stafford - DET
12. Joe Flacco - BAL
13. Andy Dalton - CIN
14. Cam Newton - CAR
15. Alex Smith - KC
16. Dak Prescott - DAL
17. Andrew Luck - IND
18. Kirk Cousins - WAS
19. Carson Wentz - PHI
20. Marcus Mariota - TEN
21. Jameis Winston - TB
22. Sam Bradford - MIN
23. Tyrod Taylor - BUF
24. Jay Cutler - MIA
25. Josh McCown - NYJ
26. Trevor Siemian - DEN
27. Mike Glennon - CHI
28. Brian Hoyer - SF
29. Brock Osweiler - CLE
30. Blake Bortles - JAX
31. Tom Savage - HOU
32. Jared Goff - LAR

Eli Manning #9? Whatever....
 

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I think it's a cumulative effect of several factors with a sprinkling of the "eye test" thrown in.

And dammit... you quoted before my edit. Here reply to this, it makes more sense and
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"So in your opinion John Elway never had a great season and his career 79.9 QB rating is very far from great."

Different eras. Elway was great in his era. A 79.9 QB rating in today's NFL is a sign of a very average QB.
 

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Too high? Too low? I'm no fan of Eli, there just aren't many good QBs in the NFL right now. I had him at 17 one year, and Giants fans got super offended.

Lower.
 

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Too high? Too low? I'm no fan of Eli, there just aren't many good QBs in the NFL right now. I had him at 17 one year, and Giants fans got super offended.

Well you apparently have him too high now and redskins fans are getting super offended.
 

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S'wrong with that? I've got him over Winston. I don't have him as the 6th best QB in the league, but I've got him over Winston.

1. Tom Brady - NE
2. Aaron Rodgers - GB
3. Ben Roethlisberger - PIT
4. Drew Brees - NO
5. Derek Carr - OAK
6. Russell Wilson - SEA
7. Matt Ryan - ATL
8. Philip Rivers - LAC
9. Eli Manning - NYG
10. Carson Palmer - AZ
11. Matthew Stafford - DET
12. Joe Flacco - BAL
13. Andy Dalton - CIN
14. Cam Newton - CAR
15. Alex Smith - KC
16. Dak Prescott - DAL
17. Andrew Luck - IND
18. Kirk Cousins - WAS
19. Carson Wentz - PHI
20. Marcus Mariota - TEN
21. Jameis Winston - TB
22. Sam Bradford - MIN
23. Tyrod Taylor - BUF
24. Jay Cutler - MIA
25. Josh McCown - NYJ
26. Trevor Siemian - DEN
27. Mike Glennon - CHI
28. Brian Hoyer - SF
29. Brock Osweiler - CLE
30. Blake Bortles - JAX
31. Tom Savage - HOU
32. Jared Goff - LAR

Cuz its fuckin stupid. Dak's situation was a lot more conducive to both personal and team success.
 
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