MVP Poll

[CowboyB]

He's shown even without the time he can improvise better than anyone else.

This year he has an amazing offensive line. You just used Dak's O-Line to degrade his performance. That goes for Aaron Rogers more so than Dak since Dak's Oline is more of a running O-Line.

 

[Great Dayne]

The Packers don't either.

During the losing streak they had to average 39 ppg on offense to win games. That's a big much to ask from a QB with no running game.

 

[rmilia1]

I highly doubt it.

LOL ok man. Don't say I didn't warn you

 

[Great Dayne]

This year he has an amazing offensive line. You just used Dak's O-Line to degrade his performance. That goes for Aaron Rogers more so than Dak since Dak's Oline is more of a running O-Line.

But it's irrelevant since Rodgers has done well even with the worst pass blocking O-line in the NFL due to his improvisation. He's been much better this season when he releases the ball under 3 seconds than releasing it after 3 seconds.

 

[Earl Stevens]

LOL ok man. Don't say I didn't warn you

You seem to not know how playoff games are played. Playoff games are slower, more grind it out type of games. You won't be facing the Rams and Saints in the playoffs.

 

[rmilia1]

You seem to not know how playoff games are played. Playoff games are slower, more grind it out type of games. You won't be facing the Rams and Saints in the playoffs.

I know. The Saints have a good offense. We will be playing a bunch of teams who can't score enough to beat us. Lol at slower games. Game is 60 minutes and Atlanta doesn't need the ball long to score. You'll see... if you can get by the Giants or Pack

 

[Earl Stevens]

During the losing streak they had to average 39 ppg on offense to win games. That's a big much to ask from a QB with no running game.

Yeah, and that included losses to terrible teams like the Colts and Titans. All I see is excuses. If Brady or Peyton's defense gives up 30, they score 40. There are always excuses for Rodgers though. Like the defense gets blamed for the playoff loss against Kaep. Just overlooking that Kaep's D gave up 31 points while Kaep himself put up 45. Maybe it's time to look at the QB and stop always making excuses for him. Rodgers is no question one of the greatest players to ever play and I know he can't win it alone, but he's not on the level that everybody puts him on. Rodgers deserves blame for losing winnable shootout games like against the Falcons. I mean, the Falcons gave up 32, but Ryan still won.

 

[Earl Stevens]

I know. The Saints have a good offense. We will be playing a bunch of teams who can't score enough to beat us. Lol at slower games. Game is 60 minutes and Atlanta doesn't need the ball long to score. You'll see... if you can get by the Giants or Pack

So you are saying the Cowboys and Packers can't score enough to beat you? But KC can. You are a joke dude.

 

[Golden Spur]

Ryan

 

[sonnyblack65]

Highest scoring offenses are a different story in playoffs and especially SB. Pats had the #1 scoring offense in NFL history in 07 and only scored 14 points vs Giants and Denver had the#1 scoring offense in history 3 years ago and only scored 8 points vs Seattle. And they had arguably the 2 best QB's in this generation, Ryan needs to prove himself in playoffs. Ryan has my vote for MVP because of his stats . He only throws the ball 33 times a game but has 38 tds. 7 int 2nd most yards, best rating and over 9 yards a throw

 

[GNG]

The Packers without Rodgers and the Falcons without Ryan would only be average teams but the Patriots would still be good without Brady.

Rodgers or Ryan for MVP.

 

[Earl Stevens]

Jordan's Bulls made the Eastern Conference Finals without him. Hardly anybody holds it against MJ. The Pats have a winning record without Brady but no playoff appearances and everybody holds it against Brady. It's funny.

 

[sonnyblack65]

During the losing streak they had to average 39 ppg on offense to win games. That's a big much to ask from a QB with no running game.

I don't follow GB but I watched them last night. Their RB's avg'd 6 yards a carry last night and had over 100 yards on like 17 carries by Ripkowski and Montgomery. Montgomery avg's 6 yards a carry for the season and Lacy was doing over 5 before injury. Blount for NE avg's 3.9 yards a carry but leads in TDs . Some teams choose to throw inside the 5 while some hand off the rock. Their O line seemed like they gave Rodgers of plenty of time to throw. again this is based of what I saw in 1 game

 

[sonnyblack65]

The Packers without Rodgers and the Falcons without Ryan would only be average teams but the Patriots would still be good without Brady.

Rodgers or Ryan for MVP.

Follow the thread every Pats fan has said Ryan and none have made a case for Brady, not blind homers. GB had to wait till day to see if they made the playoffs

 

[GNG]

Follow the thread every Pats fan has said Ryan and none have made a case for Brady, not blind homers

Did I say they were?

 

[GNG]

I don't follow GB but I watched them last night. Their RB's avg'd 6 yards a carry last night and had over 100 yards on like 17 carries by Ripkowski and Montgomery. Montgomery avg's 6 yards a carry for the season and Lacy was doing over 5 before injury. Blount for NE avg's 3.9 yards a carry but leads in TDs . Some teams choose to throw inside the 5 while some hand off the rock. Their O line seemed like they gave Rodgers of plenty of time to throw. again this is based of what I saw in 1 game

Rodgers scrambling ability makes the Packers OL look better.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Did I say they were?

You don't know what a team would be like /o a certain QB, maybe they utilize the run game better. Dallas thought they were doomed for the season when Romo went down in preseason. Who though that a rookie QB who has only thrown 2 int all year was gonna help them to best record in NFC.

When Bledsoe got hurt and an unknown 6rd pick went into the game, I figured their 5-11 season the year before and 0-2 that year would only be worse. Unknown helped them win 4 SB's in 4 years with same team tha went 5-13 under Belichick and Bledsoe

 

[Chewbaccer]

It's Ryan for me. He might blow it in the playoffs again, but his playoff history isn't relevant to the 2016 NFL MVP discussion.

 

[Chewbaccer]

I wouldn't be salty if Rodgers won it either.

 

[GNG]

You don't know what a team would be like /o a certain QB, maybe they utilize the run game better. Dallas thought they were doomed for the season when Romo went down in preseason. Who though that a rookie QB who has only thrown 2 int all year was gonna help them to best record in NFC

I admit Dak was a pleasant surprise but the Patriots were 3-1 before Brady came back as starting QB.