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Top 10 poll: #5 player ever

Who is the #5 player in baseball history?

  • Oscar Charleston

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  • Ken Griffey Jr

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  • Frank Robinson

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  • Bob Gibson

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  • Greg Maddux

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  • Alex Rodriguez

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  • Pedro Martinez

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  • Josh Gibson

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  • Sadaharu Oh

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  • Satchel Paige

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  • Johnny Bench

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  • Tom Seaver

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  • Randy Johnson

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  • Joe DiMaggio

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  • Jimmie Foxx

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  • Mel Ott

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  • Duke Snyder

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  • Joe Morgan

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  • Jeff Kent

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  • Arky Vaughan

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calsnowskier

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Ohtani is a unicorn, no doubt. But if he were to retire today, for reasons that don’t influence his reputation, would he belong this high? I get the sense he is getting credit for his potential rather than what he has actually done.
 

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Of course it doesn’t have any legitimacy. It is just a bunch of drunk morons on the internet chatting baseball.


just saying when you are part of a poll you are going to want results to represent your opinion... more than if you just look up a top 10 rankings...
 

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also, now that Bonds is picked, then i am going to throw AROID up there soon... not at 5, but he should absolutely be top 10....
He is a really tough one. He ACTUALLY cheated. I honestly don’t know how to treat him. But I think I agree that he can’t be ignored forever.
 

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He is a really tough one. He ACTUALLY cheated. I honestly don’t know how to treat him. But I think I agree that he can’t be ignored forever.
Right. The only one that cheated.

I do think he is more 12-16 range for me than this high but if you go positional value then maybe
 

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Ohtani is a unicorn, no doubt. But if he were to retire today, for reasons that don’t influence his reputation, would he belong this high? I get the sense he is getting credit for his potential rather than what he has actually done.

true, but the unicorn aspect is sexy... Rickey henderson is the only other unicorn... not in the same way... but his flashyness and being considered the best at something specific, makes him a little over-rated...

unicorns are always going to be over-rated.. thats just what they are...
 

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Right. The only one that cheated.

I do think he is more 12-16 range for me than this high but if you go positional value then maybe
Ramirez also cheated. But he wouldn’t begin getting discussed until much later in the game.
 

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He is a really tough one. He ACTUALLY cheated. I honestly don’t know how to treat him. But I think I agree that he can’t be ignored forever.


i know your binary is cheated or not... but you have to understand that most peoples binary is doing steroids or not...

your bonds didnt cheat is just awkward even if true... becasue again, he is the face of it...
 

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true, but the unicorn aspect is sexy... Rickey henderson is the only other unicorn... not in the same way... but his flashyness and being considered the best at something specific, makes him a little over-rated...

unicorns are always going to be over-rated.. thats just what they are...
But Rickey’s book is closed. We can judge him on his entire story. Ohtani, imho, is getting judged for things he MIGHT do. Not what he has done.

I am considering making this only for retired players, but that may be unfair and me putting my finger on the scale.
 

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i know your binary is cheated or not... but you have to understand that most peoples binary is doing steroids or not...

your bonds didnt cheat is just awkward even if true... becasue again, he is the face of it...
Bonds being the face of it is similar to the Cobb is a racist argument. Bonds is/was an ass, so writers decided to color him with very unflattering narratives. He never broke a rule, so to label him the face of cheating just doesn’t make logical sense.
 

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Not to get ahead of the game, but after this round, we need to debate the value of starting pitchers...


at this point i am ok just doing offensive players... although that does complicate things for Ohtani, since if we just did offense, then would ohtani be top 20??? he would just be a DH....
 

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But Rickey’s book is closed. We can judge him on his entire story. Ohtani, imho, is getting judged for things he MIGHT do. Not what he has done.

I am considering making this only for retired players, but that may be unfair and me putting my finger on the scale.

How far are we going? Maybe only retired players for the top 15 (or so)?
 

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Bonds being the face of it is similar to the Cobb is a racist argument. Bonds is/was an ass, so writers decided to color him with very unflattering narratives. He never broke a rule, so to label him the face of cheating just doesn’t make logical sense.


this is just not true.... your giants fandom is showing here...
 

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Not to get ahead of the game, but after this round, we need to debate the value of starting pitchers...
Why next round, but not now? I take you think there is a CLEAR player who deserves this spot, and there is a Cliff after that players is named. I don’t see it that way. Imho, Cobb and Hornsby are leaders at this point, but Aaron, Gehrig and others legit belong in the discussion here.
 
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