Mike Pettine: Russell Wilson is not a top tier QB

[PolarVortex]

Watch the games, then report what you have seen.

Seen them all. I'm reporting what I am seeing. Watch his deep drops in the last four games and report what you have seen.

 

[chf]

Silverado 4x4. 8 foot bed. Extended cab. Very muddy. I don't Euro trash, whether it be automobiles, hockey players of basketball players.

Heh, you're digging that hole deeper as you go. Nice.

What brand shovel are you using? Something American I bet!

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Another blown up media creation for clicks.

Is it really a diss to say he's not top 4 in the NFL? If that gets Hawks fans riled up or provides more incentive for SEA...sobeit. RW is playing great the past month...imo at a level he has not shown in the past...keep that up and I think Wilson remove all doubt that he's a top 4 QB.

 

[flyerhawk]

Seen them all. I'm reporting what I am seeing. Watch his deep drops in the last four games and report what you have seen.

Yeah. What I see is a pocket almost free of pressure for 4 seconds.

I see a QB is is absolutely destroying blitzes right(158 rating against the blitz in the last 4 games) because his blockers are still giving 3 seconds and letting him get the ball to the open man.

That's what I see.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

More or less guilty as charged. The PNW is an outdoorsman's paradise.

Especially when you love penis

 

[Tharvot]

Eh, he's right. Wilson is great, but I wouldn't put him in the top tier with guys who have been doing it longer than he has.

 

[flyerhawk]

Eh, he's right. Wilson is great, but I wouldn't put him in the top tier with guys who have been doing it longer than he has.

I agree. I was saying the same thing about Andrew Luck last year when everyone was anointing him the best QB in the league not named Aaron Rodgers. Not so much these days.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Just impossible to quantify

Russel Wilson "should be" a 2 time SB winning QB, and even if you rank guys ahead of him, Drew Brees for example, I dont think for a second that Brees is duplicating the success Wilson is having in Seattle

Some guys just fit their teams perfectly, and if Im a Seattle fan, there isnt a QB in the game i would rather leading my team, after what ive watched this team accomplish under his leadership since he entered the league....

 

[Uhsplit]

Seen them all. I'm reporting what I am seeing. Watch his deep drops in the last four games and report what you have seen.

Gladly. When I report inaccuracies, please remind me to watch the game. You were inaccurate. I reminded you. I expect the same treatment back.

 

[flyerhawk]

Just impossible to quantify

Russel Wilson "should be" a 2 time SB winning QB, and even if you rank guys ahead of him, Drew Brees for example, I dont think for a second that Brees is duplicating the success Wilson is having in Seattle

Some guys just fit their teams perfectly, and if Im a Seattle fan, there isnt a QB in the game i would rather leading my team, after what ive watched this team accomplish under his leadership since he entered the league....

There was a good article about Wilson and the OL a week or so ago. When the OL was really struggling, Wilson ALWAYS took responsibility and never threw them under the bus. Several of the linemen commented about how much they respected that and how it pushed them to improve.

That's the kinda story that talks about things fans often don't about.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

There was a good article about Wilson and the OL a week or so ago. When the OL was really struggling, Wilson ALWAYS took responsibility and never threw them under the bus. Several of the linemen commented about how much they respected that and how it pushed them to improve.

That's the kinda story that talks about things fans often don't about.

Sure, and from an on the field standpoint, all the guys we would rank ahead of Wilson, are statues back there, and when their Olines are awful, its gonna be magnified far more than with Wilson

 

[PolarVortex]

Heh, you're digging that hole deeper as you go. Nice.

What brand shovel are you using? Something American I bet!

I really don't know what the brand name of the shovel is but I have a flat tip and a rounded tip, depending on the job at hand.

if if it is something really big - I have a Cabela's 35 HP tractor with a backhoe attachment. And of course it have a Winchester .30-30 mounted to the cab frame just incase something tasty wanders along.

 

[PolarVortex]

Yeah. What I see is a pocket almost free of pressure for 4 seconds.

I see a QB is is absolutely destroying blitzes right(158 rating against the blitz in the last 4 games) because his blockers are still giving 3 seconds and letting him get the ball to the open man.

That's what I see.

Thomas Rawls was picking up blitzes well, most of the time. If you are expecting Christina Michele to have similar success, you are going to be disappointed.

 

[PolarVortex]

Especially when you love penis

Is Jeter still banging Chuckie Knoblauch?

 

[flyerhawk]

Thomas Rawls was picking up blitzes well, most of the time. If you are expecting Christina Michele to have similar success, you are going to be disappointed.

I highly doubt we will see Michael in the backfield much and if we do, it won't be on blitzing downs.

 

[johnson]

The OL was a complete mess until about week 10 or 11, but I guess we'll just totally discount that part. Palmer would have been on IR before Halloween with this line. You can say "MVP Palmer" all you want, but we're still talking about a mid-30s QB who has NEVER won a playoff game.

The one thing about Russell is you'd think he'd be able to compensate for a bad O-line better than others. Instead, he took a ton of sacks, many that were his fault. So I'm not sure you can just blame 9 weeks of uninspiring QB play on everyone else.

MVPalmer refers to the regular season MVP THIS YEAR. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

[SonnyCID]

The one thing about Russell is you'd think he'd be able to compensate for a bad O-line better than others. Instead, he took a ton of sacks, many that were his fault. So I'm not sure you can just blame 9 weeks of uninspiring QB play on everyone else..

He does compensate for poor oline play, he's been doing it for most of his career if you hadn't noticed. Including the 1st 9 games of the year. But he can do only so much, and the line was exceptionally bad in the start of the year. There is not a QB in the league that would outplayed Wilson behind that line, even considering the "many" sacks he moved in to. Any QB would have bad sacks behind that much pressure. But I doubt they would have lead to a better record, and probably would have gotten hurt.

 

[jarntt]

I highly doubt we will see Michael in the backfield much and if we do, it won't be on blitzing downs.

Well, at least not successfully...

 

[jarntt]

The one thing about Russell is you'd think he'd be able to compensate for a bad O-line better than others. Instead, he took a ton of sacks, many that were his fault. So I'm not sure you can just blame 9 weeks of uninspiring QB play on everyone else.

MVPalmer refers to the regular season MVP THIS YEAR. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Wilson often holds the ball way to long and is the main reason for so many of the sacks. just because a guy is elusive and can avoid pressure doesn't mean he isn't also the cause for many of the sacks. Marino sure wasn't elusive but he knew how to get rid of the ball...

 

[SonnyCID]

Wilson often holds the ball way to long and is the main reason for so many of the sacks. just because a guy is elusive and can avoid pressure doesn't mean he isn't also the cause for many of the sacks. Marino sure wasn't elusive but he knew how to get rid of the ball...

It's also been the main reason for so much offensive production. You take the good with the bad, just like with Marino (inefficient and turnover prone in the postseason).