Is Lebron Most Overrated player EVER?

[Sman2011]

Lebron isn't a "go to" guy in to take a clutch shot. You don't necessarily want Lebron to take the "last shot" in a game.

On the other hand, I want MJ to take the last shot, regardless of any and all circumstances. He has the will to win the game on his own while Lebron does not.

Exactly, we saw what Lebron does taking the last shot with Season on the line in game 6. Airball, and clank...His season was Saved by Ray Allen....

Bottom line, Lebron with Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen = championships....Without those guys = Nothing..

Lebron is now getting ALL the credit. However, it's obvious he couldn't win a ring without all those Stars...

OVERRATED!!!!

 

[Jims_Doors]

Lebron isn't a "go to" guy in to take a clutch shot. You don't necessarily want Lebron to take the "last shot" in a game.

On the other hand, I want MJ to take the last shot, regardless of any and all circumstances. He has the will to win the game on his own while Lebron does not.

Having the will to do it on your own is one thing, winning while doing it is another. Michael didn't start winning until other teammates evolved.

 

[shitsho]

Lebron isn't a "go to" guy in to take a clutch shot. You don't necessarily want Lebron to take the "last shot" in a game.

On the other hand, I want MJ to take the last shot, regardless of any and all circumstances. He has the will to win the game on his own while Lebron does not.

I do. Who else other than Lebron? The only way I would want Wade taking it over Lebron is if he is hot. Otherwise there is no other choice in the league except maybe Kobe.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

TLDR

...but what I gathered is instead of enjoying the 4th of july with family and friends Sman gave us a funny novel. Sman I really admire your dedication to your bit!!! Good stuff.

 

[Heatles84]

You have no clue.....I think you are upset since Kobe's arrogant...I will teach you how to be a champion speech did not go over so well with Dwight. As far as bandwagon, you have me rolling with your Denver avatar...assume right after Payton arrived in the mile high city. Your Lakers avatar -- probably after their last and final 3 peat (stormy times are a coming) and your Gator avatar which you will probably remove soon if you have any shame.

If you look under his screen name you'll also see that he's a Syracuse basketball fan. Quite the little bandwagon bitch isn't he?

 

[Heatles84]

Lebron isn't a "go to" guy in to take a clutch shot. You don't necessarily want Lebron to take the "last shot" in a game.

On the other hand, I want MJ to take the last shot, regardless of any and all circumstances. He has the will to win the game on his own while Lebron does not.

I guess that 37-point game in game 7 of the Finals was irrelevant as well as that jump shot from the elbow with only 20 seconds left to put the Heat up 4. Which if that missed it wouldn't given the Spurs the last possession to either tie or win the game. But I guess we'll just go ahead and ignore everything else. I'm sure you as well as jokers like Sman could've done better.

 

[Shanemansj13]

MVP's is meaningless. The award is Voted on by media. Steve nash 2, Shaq & kobe 1 each. Worthless award considering Kobe should have 5 mvp's if it was voted on fairly.

you're trying to hard to be pathetic

Just bc Lakers don't have many MVPs are meaningless, you sir are meaningless.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Lebron isn't a "go to" guy in to take a clutch shot. You don't necessarily want Lebron to take the "last shot" in a game.

On the other hand, I want MJ to take the last shot, regardless of any and all circumstances. He has the will to win the game on his own while Lebron does not.

No shit, we know MJ is clutch. But Lebron is too, he might not do it the same way as MJ with a jumper every time. But really look at the stats Lebron is at the top of the list if not there for clutchness in the league right now.

Game 7! Game on the line, and he hits a jumper! How is that not clutch??

Forget about clutch, that is legendary. Not many players get a chance to do that!

 

[Malibu]

You have no clue.....I think you are upset since Kobe's arrogant...I will teach you how to be a champion speech did not go over so well with Dwight. As far as bandwagon, you have me rolling with your Denver avatar...assume right after Payton arrived in the mile high city. Your Lakers avatar -- probably after their last and final 3 peat (stormy times are a coming) and your Gator avatar which you will probably remove soon if you have any shame.

Bro Im older then dirt. Im almost 40 and have been a fan of the Broncos since Elway was there QB from day one and have the cards, jerseys, posters and other Broncos merchandise to prove it. Ive been a fan of the Lakers since Magi Johnson arrived and is my favorite NBA player of all time. Ive been a Gators fan since Steve Spurrier was there coach. With QB's like Shane Matthews, Terry Dean, Danny Wuerfull etc... I just didnt become a fan like most of you badwagon Heat fans like Heatmyshorts and yourself when LeBron showed up. Hell I asked Heatmyshorts numerous questions about the Miami Heat and there short history and he didnt know the answer to any of them and I do. Some true Heat fan. When Heatmyshorts tells me he can prove he isnt a bandwagon Heat fan but tells me if he was a football fan that the Patriots would be is favorite football team that proves bandwagon fan. BK same way. Heat and Saints, NYY's enough said. I have the proof and anytime you want to show up and see let me know. Bandwagon heat fans everywhere like Ive said are everywhere.

 

[Malibu]

With Granger, Deng, Rose, Westbrook, the Heat dont win it all. Hell they dont get by the Bulls of pacers. Truth hurts. Good day everyone and Sman great read.

 

[Malibu]

Im also a Syracuse basketball fan and 1 Championship only and a Brewers fan and theyve sucked for the most part since Ive been born in 1976. Not really considered a bandwagon fan like most you Heat fans that were Cavs fans at one time.

 

[Flauge]

The Heat beat the bulls in 5 when Rose and Deng played 2 years ago. The heat beat the Pacers in 6 when granger played last year.. and that was WITHOUT bosh. The heat beat the thunder in 5 with Westbrook and harden. WTF are you talking about?

I love how people make statements that are impossible to prove and act like their facts. the only thing close to face is this... injuries are a part of the game. staying healthy or at least being able to overcome injuries (like Miami did with bosh in 2012) is part of winning a championship in ever sport. the heat have done that for two years. deal with it.

RAISE THE BANNER!!!

 

[Flauge]

Im also a Syracuse basketball fan and 1 Championship only and a Brewers fan and theyve sucked for the most part since Ive been born in 1976. Not really considered a bandwagon fan like most you Heat fans that were Cavs fans at one time.

not a bandwagon fan.. explain the gators and broncos logo.. not saying youre bandwagoning.. just need an explanation.

 

[jayviabay]

The Heat beat the bulls in 5 when Rose and Deng played 2 years ago. The heat beat the Pacers in 6 when granger played last year.. and that was WITHOUT bosh. The heat beat the thunder in 5 with Westbrook and harden. WTF are you talking about?

I love how people make statements that are impossible to prove and act like their facts. the only thing close to face is this... injuries are a part of the game. staying healthy or at least being able to overcome injuries (like Miami did with bosh in 2012) is part of winning a championship in ever sport. the heat have done that for two years. deal with it.

RAISE THE BANNER!!!

Good Points but the bolded is the best of all...

 

[BOTSLAYER]

Bro Im older then dirt... I just didnt become a fan like most of you badwagon Heat fan...

No that is exactly what happened...so basically when a team got good players or a coach you liked that is who you chose to band wagon. But you look down on others when they do the same thing, are you the Media? You using MJs PR guy? Wait, no way MJ has a PR guy. You use MJ as a template of doucheness?

 

[Shoveyjoe]

Exactly. Is LeBron Jordan? HELL NO. But to say shit like he isn't dominating the league is just dumb. Hes been the best player for AT LEAST 5 years probably more like 7. You talk about how Jordan was always "in control" of games.... for the most part LeBron is too. Try watching every heat game. Each and every game is like a puzzle for LeBron and usually by the end of it he has it figured out.

Jordan was great. best ever. by far. But stop making it seem like he was some sort of god. The way you speak of him you would think he never missed a shot or lost a game. There are a lot of parts of LeBron's game that compare favorably to MJ, and some that dont. but at the end of the day what MJ was able to accomplish that sets him apart from everyone else.

Saying shit like even if lebron wins 5 rings and 8 MVP's he'll never dominate like Jordan just is foolish. Saying someone can "never" surpass jordan is ignorant. This isn't gonna happen, but do you really think LeBron winning the next 3 championships and 4 MVPs wouldn't put him at or above Jordan? What if he wins 8 ships and 10 mvps? You still gonna say he didn't dominate like jordan based on some fairytale memories you have?

oh and by the way, I am a HUGE MJ fan. Favorite athlete ever. By far, its not even close. The number of people who have dedicated their lives to trying to discredit LeBron is absurd.

With Granger, Deng, Rose, Westbrook, the Heat dont win it all. Hell they dont get by the Bulls of pacers. Truth hurts. Good day everyone and Sman great read.

This last comment is based on nothing but stupidity. It's embarrassing to say the least.

 

[hockey878]

And if Kendrick Perkins doesn't get hurt the lakers might not have won that title.

If wade doesn't have a bum knee they would have ran through the entire playoffs. If Bosh wasn't hurt last year... oh wait they still won.

Injuries are part of the game. I can understand OKC saying westbrook is hurt and thats why we didn't meet expectations. I can't understand people saying if blank wasn't hurt so and so wouldn't have won. Well they WERE hurt. So it doesn't matter. Heat had plenty of injuries too. Wade was 65% for most of the playoffs. Bosh played horrible offensively for basically the last two series and udonis haslem was playing with a torn meniscus.

injuries happen.

 

[Andresrenee]

Bro Im older then dirt. Im almost 40 and have been a fan of the Broncos since Elway was there QB from day one and have the cards, jerseys, posters and other Broncos merchandise to prove it. Ive been a fan of the Lakers since Magi Johnson arrived and is my favorite NBA player of all time. Ive been a Gators fan since Steve Spurrier was there coach. With QB's like Shane Matthews, Terry Dean, Danny Wuerfull etc... I just didnt become a fan like most of you badwagon Heat fans like Heatmyshorts and yourself when LeBron showed up. Hell I asked Heatmyshorts numerous questions about the Miami Heat and there short history and he didnt know the answer to any of them and I do. Some true Heat fan. When Heatmyshorts tells me he can prove he isnt a bandwagon Heat fan but tells me if he was a football fan that the Patriots would be is favorite football team that proves bandwagon fan. BK same way. Heat and Saints, NYY's enough said. I have the proof and anytime you want to show up and see let me know. Bandwagon heat fans everywhere like Ive said are everywhere.

Why don't you and SMH go back to playing in your mother's basement. Old as dirt at 40 is comical. If you are 40, then you jumped on bandwagons as teams got all-stars and game changers - the Lakers in the 80s and the Broncos in the 80s as well as Syracuse basketball......Hypocrite. Some of us have been with the heat since the beginning 25 years ago. The organization changed when Riley came to Miami and not when Lebron did (although we welcomed him and Bosh) with open arms. The Heat were a consistent contender and had won a title pre-Lebron. In fact, they are the most successful NBA team of the last 7 years. Proof of what? You buying old Elway pictures and posters on Ebay after Manning joined... Now, go back to crying about that blown coverage last year and your Lakers rebuild efforts.

 

[Sman2011]

The Heat beat the bulls in 5 when Rose and Deng played 2 years ago. The heat beat the Pacers in 6 when granger played last year.. and that was WITHOUT bosh. The heat beat the thunder in 5 with Westbrook and harden. WTF are you talking about?

I love how people make statements that are impossible to prove and act like their facts. the only thing close to face is this... injuries are a part of the game. staying healthy or at least being able to overcome injuries (like Miami did with bosh in 2012) is part of winning a championship in ever sport. the heat have done that for two years. deal with it.

RAISE THE BANNER!!!

What does what happened 2 years ago have to do with this year? Or last year for that matter. The Heat have been lucky any way you look at it. All the stars in the league getting injured. And the Fluke in game 6...

As far as I'm concerned, Lebron still hasn't won a legit ring. His first one was an ASTERISK. And this year he choked the season away. So it's an Asterisk and a bailout..

Till Lebron wins a ring without Bosh, Wade, and Ray Allen NO ONE'S IMPRESSED.

 

[shitsho]

What does what happened 2 years ago have to do with this year? Or last year for that matter. The Heat have been lucky any way you look at it. All the stars in the league getting injured. And the Fluke in game 6...

As far as I'm concerned, Lebron still hasn't won a legit ring. His first one was an ASTERISK. And this year he choked the season away. So it's an Asterisk and a bailout..

Till Lebron wins a ring without Bosh, Wade, and Ray Allen NO ONE'S IMPRESSED.

Right on cue. Howard walks away from the Lakers taking Kobes last chance of a ring in his back pocket and you attack Lebron.