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Is Aaron Judge the best (righty) hitter we've ever seen?

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Some numbers from the Athletic:

Quiet Greatness
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History — again — for Aaron Judge
Sometimes, superstars have it rough. Narratively, I mean. If a player is consistently great for a long period of time, the greatness becomes … boring. There’s no arc for us to latch onto, no adversity. See: James, LeBron.

Aaron Judge has quickly entered that territory. In 2022, he produced one of the best seasons we’ve ever seen — 62 home runs, 131 RBIs and a 210 OPS + in a contract year. After an injury-plagued 2023, he returned to that form last season (58 homers, 144 RBIs, 223 OPS+). Both seasons earned MVP awards. A standard was established.

This year? He’s even better. Let’s start at the basics and build up:
  • The surface numbers are just bonkers: a .400 average, 1.241 OPS, 249 OPS+ (which normalizes a player’s OPS in relation to the league average, which is set at 100). As in, Judge is hitting 149 percent better than a league-average player.

  • Judge, 33, has produced 3.4 wins above replacement (via Fangraphs) already this season, which would’ve ranked 77th last year for the entire year. Judge led the league in WAR last year, too (11.2).

  • Judge might be, as Jayson Stark illuminated Tuesday, the best right-handed hitter the modern game has ever seen. Better than Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Joe DiMaggio — at least statistically.

  • To wit: Since the 2022 season began, Judge put together the best asterisk-free 450-game stretch of any right-handed hitter in the last 100 years — 168 home runs and a 207 Weighted Runs Created+, which means he manufactured runs 107 percent better than the average major leaguer. The only players with more homers in the same amount of time: Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa.
I urge you to read Jayson’s story, which is full of plenty of other mind-blowing stats. And maybe watch Judge hit soon if you get the chance. We may never see a player produce like this again.
The short, sweet answer is a flat out NO. And, at his age (33), he isn't going to be. He isn't going to topple the career accomplishments and multiplle great seaons of Mike Trout and Albert Pujols (and that is just for starters).

Judge had great seasons in 2022 and 2024. He had a very good season in 2017, but many players have had the equivalent including Prince Fielder and Dave Kingman. In short, he has had two great years and is working on a third which he might achieve assuming he keeps up the pace and doesn't get injured.
 

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Greatness is defined by what you do in the post season.
Bullshit. So, what, Bucky Dent is great then? Give me a break. And no, Derek Jeter is not great, except in terms of compiling. He was a great compiler. He was never a dominant player from April to September. He needed other players to perform in those 162 games to get the Yankees to the post season. It's the performance in those grueling 162 games of summer that defines a player's greatness. Not 10-15 games in October.
It's what made Jeter Jeter, it's what seperates Brady from Manning and everyone else. Judge has hit .203 with a .768 OPS in the postseason and that can't be ignored for me.
 

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The short, sweet answer is a flat out NO. And, at his age (33), he isn't going to be. He isn't going to topple the career accomplishments and multiplle great seaons of Mike Trout and Albert Pujols (and that is just for starters).

Judge had great seasons in 2022 and 2024. He had a very good season in 2017, but many players have had the equivalent including Prince Fielder and Dave Kingman. In short, he has had two great years and is working on a third which he might achieve assuming he keeps up the pace and doesn't get injured.

Holy hell
 

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Frank Thomas was probably the best RH hitter ever, for the simple fact that The Big Hurt was doing his damage while the rest of MLB was abusing steroids (hitters AND pitchers alike). Imagine Thomas' numbers if he was playing on a level field.

WOW!!!
 

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How about he gets to 1000 RBI first.
 

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Would have been the 2nd worst OPS+ of Judge's career. But go on
Okay, perhaps a bad comparison but George Foster's and Prince Fielder's seasons were not. No one is calling those two alltime greats. So, in reality, Aaron Judge only has two seasons to crow about 2022 and 2024. That hardly makes him the greatest hitter since 1970.
 

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Okay, perhaps a bad comparison but George Foster's and Prince Fielder's seasons were not. No one is calling those two alltime greats. So, in reality, Aaron Judge only has two seasons to crow about 2022 and 2024. That hardly makes him the greatest hitter since 1970.
Highest career OPS+ among righties and 6th all-time. Dude, it's more than just 2022 and 2024. I know you like to play contrarian, but this is just silly.

 

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How about he gets to 1000 RBI first.
I don't think he'll be a top 10 player all-time just because of the injuries and later career start, but his peak is certainly in the conversation for best hitters at their peak. 212 OPS+ since the beginning of 2022.
 

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Highest career OPS+ among righties and 6th all-time. Dude, it's more than just 2022 and 2024. I know you like to play contrarian, but this is just silly.

You know what is silly? Thinking he has been better than the 11 years Albert Pujols put up in St Louis.
 

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You know what is silly? Thinking he has been better than the 11 years Albert Pujols put up in St Louis.
Wouldn't argue with 2001-11 Pujols being better, but I'd take 2022 or 2024 Judge over any of Pujols best. Too bad Pujols fell off a cliff in LA.

I'd say Hornsby is the #1 RHH by peak and career
 

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Bullshit. So, what, Bucky Dent is great then? Give me a break. And no, Derek Jeter is not great, except in terms of compiling. He was a great compiler. He was never a dominant player from April to September. He needed other players to perform in those 162 games to get the Yankees to the post season. It's the performance in those grueling 162 games of summer that defines a player's greatness. Not 10-15 games in October.
Why even mention Bucky Dent? Everyone know Derek Jeter is reveared because of his big, clutch performances in playoff games, not for his regular seasons which were certainly good to great. But those games were not why he is regarded so much higher that A Rod who had far superior regular season stats.
 

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Wouldn't argue with 2001-11 Pujols being better, but I'd take 2022 or 2024 Judge over any of Pujols best. Too bad Pujols fell off a cliff in LA.

I'd say Hornsby is the #1 RHH by peak and career
Judge the best based on two seasons? LOL. No. But, yes on Hornsby being the best RHH.
 

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Why even mention Bucky Dent? Everyone know Derek Jeter is reveared because of his big, clutch performances in playoff games, not for his regular seasons which were certainly good to great. But those games were not why he is regarded so much higher that A Rod who had far superior regular season stats.
Derek Jeter is 'revered'; because he was a media darling and player in New York. And that is the only reason. The media kissed his ass. He is not great. He is not in the same category of greatness as Babe ruth, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Ty Cobb, Rogers Hornsby, etc. He is in the Robin Young, Joe Gordon, Craig Biggio class. Case in point: he is fifth all time in most....singles. He was a compiler.
 
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