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[Sharkonabicycle]

Well, my experience is specific to subsea oil and gas extraction systems. For those you have divers and ROVs do the vast majority of any underwater work and the control systems are all above sea level, typically in the large to giant offshore rigs.

I am not an expert, even after the 8.5 year, as it was a large company and I was a cog in the gears as an instrumentation specialist. So I was working with subsupplier manufacturers to incorporate sensors, valves, meters, etc, etc into the systems. Additionally the expertise to design subsea habitats was not something I ever had to deal with since subsea oil extraction doesn't make underwater habitats for their systems! As far as I know, there are no such structures existing as the cost would be enormous and unnecessary since you can do everything except some rare physical repairs from above sea level control systems.

Since the cost of shutting down an oil field to affect repairs is absolutely enormous and the subsea repairs can be quite complicated, the systems are usually spec'd for 25 to 30 year lifespans with double redundancy on any possible failure/error points (for example: if you have a valve break on a Texas desert rig you just get a new one, shut down the line for 15 minutes and perform the install. On the same situation on a subsea would require many hours (and possibly millions in time revenue) and have to be done in a hostile environment by ROVs and divers. Plus you need the specific replacement parts that require the correct materials, coatings, even fasteners, etc in addition to all of the actual sensor and operational functions. Everything is overbuilt/over-engineered.

So, the facility in Underwater isn't reality and exists only as a plot device to make a point about the potential dangers of screwing with Mother Nature.

You mention Deep Blue Sea. That was a scientific research facility. While I can't claim expertise there, I can say that generally speaking it is also a fictional fabrication. The actual underwater habitats that I am aware of are essentially large skids with a bunch of individual metal capsules on them which are built above ground and lowered into place. While they will be anchored to the bottom, they are not technically permanent in the sense that detaching any foundation anchors can allow them to be moved, even lifted entirely out of the sea. So this lends to reason that it is more like being in a spaceship: a small, contained environment. No large concrete walkways, or huge open structures.

Look at it like this: Underwater environments are much like outerspace with some of the main differences being that outerspace has vacuum pressure, while undersea has exponential pressure by depth, and the corrosive elements of the water environments.

So even with the possible scientific research applications, it would be rare to ever have any permanent subsea personal structures at any significant depth ever. The pressures you are dealing with, the corrosive environment, the inability to guarantee the stability of the foundation, and the lack of necessity to keep the personal at these depths, etc makes this fiction (I'm sure there are rare exceptions). Just build your surface structure with a conduit to the depths if that is somehow necessary instead of trying to way overbuild a structure that can withstand the depths for decades.

Sorry about the rambling. I should have condensed it more. But I do enjoy sharing what little knowledge I do have.

Jeebus. Thanks for the knowledge share, man. WTF do you mean by 'large skids with a bunch of metal capsules'?!

 

[returnofjakedog]

Finally crossed this one off my list! Only took me almost 3 years since you posted about it!

When the movie ended my wife asked me, "so are you done drinking?" because I hadn't gotten up to go fill up another since the movie began. I was very enthralled in this movie lol. The practical effects were awesome. All the oozing and squelching... lol. So many moments that made me want to vomit but so awesome!

I agree that the beginning was absurd that she refused to go get that bite checked by a doctor. Right after the fiancé had the pus burst out all over his hand I thought she had to go get that checked lol.... Or when she was routinely vomiting or waking up in bath tubs covered in what looked like olive oil. But no... It wasn't until she was basting her bed sheets with eggs did she finally call the doctor. LMAO. And even then it only looked like she went to the pharmacy to get some antiseptics instead of going to a doctor. Ridiculous. Elma Begavic was phenomenal though. That head tilt & clicking was frightening.

The story definitely took a long time to get going, and was largely lacking. But the transformation made it worth the wait.

Glad you liked it!

Yeah, this one kinda sticks with me in that I remember it fairly well, while others I have rated similarly tend to fade. So it must have done something right!

I do remember almost shutting it off at the beginning. The low budget phone shakey stuff, and the annoying characters made me fear the worst.

Speaking of the worst, I also remember the supporting characters all being horrible assholes. It made me wonder why she was anywhere near any of these pricks.

But it is all worth it for a very good 2nd half. I see I gave it a 6.5 overall, but this is a schizophrenic movie in that I could go a 4 for the start, a 5.5 up towards the middle, then an 8 for the 2nd half.

I'll need to give it a rewatch at some point!

 

[returnofjakedog]

Jeebus. Thanks for the knowledge share, man. WTF do you mean by 'large skids with a bunch of metal capsules'?!

So this is a typical larger example (most are smaller). You can kinda see the size ratio by the man in the front.

So do you think movies like Underwater or Deep Blue Sea would work very well in a realistic setting like this? Lol!

PS: Gotta love the Scanners gif! Nice!

 

[returnofjakedog]

So I did find this article which states that the only current permanent subsea habitat structure is a 400 sq ft one off the coast of Fla. But the cool part is the Cousteau family plans on building a 4000 sq ft one!

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Very cool article. At least 3 years (probably more) out. With living quarters, labs, a greenhouse(!), and internal energy generation it is certainly more along the lines of the stuff we've seen in the movies. But, as I previously noted, this is for scientific research, and there would be absolutely zero reason to build one for subsea oil, as in the Underwater movie.

Also note that this Cousteau habitat is only 60 ft in depth, so quite low pressure in the overall scheme.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Glad you liked it!

Yeah, this one kinda sticks with me in that I remember it fairly well, while others I have rated similarly tend to fade. So it must have done something right!

I do remember almost shutting it off at the beginning. The low budget phone shakey stuff, and the annoying characters made me fear the worst.

Speaking of the worst, I also remember the supporting characters all being horrible assholes. It made me wonder why she was anywhere near any of these pricks.

But it is all worth it for a very good 2nd half. I see I gave it a 6.5 overall, but this is a schizophrenic movie in that I could go a 4 for the start, a 5.5 up towards the middle, then an 8 for the 2nd half.

I'll need to give it a rewatch at some point!

Yea the 1st person filming while they were on the bachelorette trip was cringe worthy. The dialogue, the bite scene... Yea I was borderline thinkin that was all the movie had to offer and wanted to turn it off. Thankfully I allowed it to pass the cut scene and it went to normal filming style with good frames.

And agreed the rest of the supporting characters were pretty awful. Both in the writing & acting sense. The mother-in-law & fiancé living in the same hallway made very little sense and became an annoying point for me. Killed me when he left her a voicemail saying, "hey its been a few days and I haven't heard from you even though I live just 50 ft away".... Like dude, you can't just knock on her door? I "lived" 1 mile away from my fianceé in college, and I practically lived at her place 7 days a week. 50ft & these 2 don't even live together or see each other routinely? I couldn't get past that.

 

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[Blackshirts BLVD]

Sorry ahead of time, but... I must.

 

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Is there a new TCM coming this year? I hadn't heard about it

 

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Just a cool pic

 

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What's yours?

No lie, I grew up around cornfields and to this day have not watched Children of the Corn. The kids looked creepy and it always seemed to real as a kid. Now... well, I heard they aren't very good so they never really made my radar.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Assuming these are Jason, Myers, Freddy, and Leatherface... all being slashers, this makes sense. BUT what are your horror movie mount rushmore characters?

Trying to take from different categories, I would go...

Myers - slasher
Regan - supernatural/paranormal
Alien - monster
Jack Torrance - Psychological

 

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Ideas?

 

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Is there a new TCM coming this year? I hadn't heard about it

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