David Shaw: CFP should look at full schedules

[AlaskaGuy]

Sorry you suck at math.

SEC sets 12-year non-division rotation

ACC Atlantic
Boston College: 9 P5 - Purdue
Clemson: 10 P5 - TAMU, SCAR
FSU: 10 P5 - UF, ND
Louisville: 10 P5 - Alabama, UK
NCST: 9 P5 - WVU
Syracuse: 9 P5 - ND
WF: 9 P5 - ND

ACC Coastal
Duke: 10 P5 - Northwestern, Baylor
GT: 9 P5 - UGA
Miami: 9 P5 - LSU
UNC: 9 P5 - Cal
Pitt: 10 P5 - PSU, ND
UVA: 9 P5 - Indiana
VT: 9 P5 - ND

131 P5 = 9.357


Big 12
Baylor: 10 P5 - Duke
Iowa St.: 10 P5 - Iowa
KU: 10 P5 - Rutgers
KSU: 10 P5 - Miss. St.
OU: 10 P5 - UCLA
Okie Light - 9 P5
TCU: 10 P5 - Ohio St.
Texas: 11 P5 - Maryland, USC
TT: 10 P5 - ole Miss
WVU: 11 P5 - NCST, Tennessee

101 P5 = 10.1


B1G East
Indiana: 10 P5 - UVA
Maryland: 10 P5 - Texas
UM: 10 P5 - ND
MSU: 10 P5 - ASU
OSU: 11 P5 - Oregon St., TCU
PSU: 10 P5 - Pitt
Rutgers: 10 P5 - Kansas

B1G West
Illinois: 9 P5
Iowa: 10 P5 - Iowa St.
Minnesota: 9 P5
Nebraska: 10 P5 - Colorado
Northwestern: 11 P5 - Duke, ND
Purdue: 11 P5 - Mizzou, BC
Wisconsin: 10 P5 - BYU

141 P5 = 10.071


PAC North
Cal: 11 P5 - North Carolina, BYU
Oregon: 9 P5
Oregon St.: 9 P5
Stanford: 10 P5 - ND
Washington: 11 P5 - Auburn, BYU
Washington St.: 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona: 10 P5 - BYU
Arizona St.: 10 P5 - Michigan St.
Colorado: 10 P5 - Nebraska
UCLA: 10 P5 - Oklahoma
USC: 11 P5 - Texas, ND
Utah: 10 P5 - BYU

119 P5 = 9.916


SEC East
UF: 9 P5 - FSU
UGA: 9 P5 - GT
UK: 9 P5 - Louisville
Mizzou: 9 P5 - Purdue
SCAR: 9 P5 - Clemson
UT: 9 P5 - WVU
Vandy: 9P5 - ND

SEC West
Alabama: 9 P5 - Louisville
Arkansas: 8 P5
Auburn: 9 P5 - Washington
LSU: 9 P5 - Miami
Miss. St.: 9 P5 - KSU
Ole Miss. 9P5 - TT
TAMU: 9 P5 - Clemson

125 P5 = 8.928

 

[4down20]

Yes, internet meme that is probably older than you can count.

 

[DHoey]

False Dichotomy, dipshit.

You fucking nailed it bro. Keep on keepin on.......

 

[4down20]

You fucking nailed it bro. Keep on keepin on.......

Just because you imagine scenario's in your head doesn't mean it's the reality, nor does it mean it speaks of the actual possibilities/probabilities.

For example, when Oregon St loses every single conference game to every member of your conference, then what actually happened is your conference has a HIGHER chance of producing above .500 teams.

You guys act like the Pac12 is full of great teams and the only reason you aren't getting more bowl teams is because you play each other and spread the wins/losses out evenly. Not actually how it happens.

 

[DHoey]

Just because you imagine scenario's in your head doesn't mean it's the reality, nor does it mean it speaks of the actual possibilities/probabilities.

For example, when Oregon St loses every single conference game to every member of your conference, then what actually happened is your conference has a HIGHER chance of producing above .500 teams.

You guys act like the Pac12 is full of great teams and the only reason you aren't getting more bowl teams is because you play each other and spread the wins/losses out evenly. Not actually how it happens.

False Dichotomy bro.

 

[4down20]

False Dichotomy bro.

Yes, by pointing out the extended and more likely possibilities, I'm trying to pigeon hole the topic into being 1 or the other result.

I guess I'll just add it to the list of shit you are too stupid to understand.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Ahhh the weekly schedule thread:

AG reads the riot act to the ACC and SEC

And

4D tries to convince the world playing Fresno State or Colorado State would be tougher than playing Georgia or Florida. All the while pretending every team in the PAC is Oregon State.

Good times

 

[4down20]

Ahhh the weekly schedule thread:

AG reads the riot act to the ACC and SEC

And

4D tries to convince the world playing Fresno State or Colorado State would be tougher than playing Georgia or Florida. All the while pretending every team in the PAC is Oregon State.

Good times

And here comes ralph making shit up right on queue.

The fact you have to misrepresent things pretty much says it all.

 

[ralphiewvu]

And here comes ralph making shit up right on queue.

The fact you have to misrepresent things pretty much says it all.

Are you joking? You aren’t saying playing an extra conference game is not tougher than playing a mid major? Really you are saying that?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Are you joking? You aren’t saying playing an extra conference game is not tougher than playing a mid major? Really you are saying that?

 

[ralphiewvu]

No he’s not he’s looking for the few examples that show playing midmajors is tougher than playing conference P5 foes and using that as the norm.

 

[socaljim242]

Funny considering the SEC and ACC have been dragging college football into the future for my entire life while conferences like the Pac12 have done everything in their power to prevent the progression of college football.

Conference championship game? You can thank the SEC.

#1 vs #2 at the end of the year? You can again thank the SEC. Your conference for many years blocked #1 and #2 even playing at the end of the year because "Rose Bowl", while other conferences worked towards getting that matchup.

Pac blocked the playoffs for many years.

etc.

You're welcome.

Now hold the fuck on. In 1970 USC beat a no black players allowed Alabama team and changed college football forever. Prevent progression? Yeah right.

 

[7Samurai13]

Are you joking? You aren’t saying playing an extra conference game is not tougher than playing a mid major? Really you are saying that?

Depends on the conference team.
Kansas, Baylor, Illinois, Florida, Rutgers, Oregon State; there are plenty of mid majors tougher than them.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Depends on the conference team.
Kansas, Baylor, Illinois, Florida, Rutgers, Oregon State; there are plenty of mid majors tougher than them.

Absolutely there will always be outliers. But as a whole you can’t argue the midmajors are tougher then P5’s. That’s all I’m saying.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

SEC logic: mid majors @ home > home & away's vs conference members

 

[Codaxx]

Depends on the conference team.
Kansas, Baylor, Illinois, Florida, Rutgers, Oregon State; there are plenty of mid majors tougher than them.

Kansas, Florida, Baylor, and Oregon State have gone to major bowls since 2000 (bcs bowls), not many mid-majors can say that. Even cherrry picking names doesn’t quite make the intended point

 

[RoyUte]

Hell no, playing most G5 and a few FCS teams is way harder than playing Oregon St.

If Alabama had added that "P5" opponent in exchange for any of our OOC opponents, our SoS would have dropped.

Absolutely false. Had Alabama added the conference game (P5) Georgia in week 11 instead of Mercer they would not have gone to the playoffs. Or are you really saying that playing Mercer instead of Georgia gave you a stronger SOS last year?

 

[Deep Creek]

Imagine half the NFL playing a 16 game regular season schedule and the other half playing 15 games.


ACC Atlantic
Boston College: 9 P5 - Purdue
Clemson: 10 P5 - TAMU, SCAR
FSU: 10 P5 - UF, ND
Louisville: 10 P5 - Alabama, UK
NCST: 9 P5 - WVU
Syracuse: 9 P5 - ND
WF: 9 P5 - ND

ACC Coastal
Duke: 10 P5 - Northwestern, Baylor
GT: 9 P5 - UGA
Miami: 9 P5 - LSU
UNC: 9 P5 - Cal
Pitt: 10 P5 - PSU, ND
UVA: 9 P5 - Indiana
VT: 9 P5 - ND

131 P5 = 9.357


Big 12
Baylor: 10 P5 - Duke
Iowa St.: 10 P5 - Iowa
KU: 10 P5 - Rutgers
KSU: 10 P5 - Miss. St.
OU: 10 P5 - UCLA
Okie Light - 9 P5
TCU: 10 P5 - Ohio St.
Texas: 11 P5 - Maryland, USC
TT: 10 P5 - ole Miss
WVU: 11 P5 - NCST, Tennessee

101 P5 = 10.1


B1G East
Indiana: 10 P5 - UVA
Maryland: 10 P5 - Texas
UM: 10 P5 - ND
MSU: 10 P5 - ASU
OSU: 11 P5 - Oregon St., TCU
PSU: 10 P5 - Pitt
Rutgers: 10 P5 - Kansas

B1G West
Illinois: 9 P5
Iowa: 10 P5 - Iowa St.
Minnesota: 9 P5
Nebraska: 10 P5 - Colorado
Northwestern: 11 P5 - Duke, ND
Purdue: 11 P5 - Mizzou, BC
Wisconsin: 10 P5 - BYU

141 P5 = 10.071


PAC North
Cal: 11 P5 - North Carolina, BYU
Oregon: 9 P5
Oregon St.: 9 P5
Stanford: 10 P5 - ND
Washington: 11 P5 - Auburn, BYU
Washington St.: 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona: 10 P5 - BYU
Arizona St.: 10 P5 - Michigan St.
Colorado: 10 P5 - Nebraska
UCLA: 10 P5 - Oklahoma
USC: 11 P5 - Texas, ND
Utah: 10 P5 - BYU

119 P5 = 9.916


SEC East
UF: 9 P5 - FSU
UGA: 9 P5 - GT
UK: 9 P5 - Louisville
Mizzou: 9 P5 - Purdue
SCAR: 9 P5 - Clemson
UT: 9 P5 - WVU
Vandy: 9P5 - ND

SEC West
Alabama: 9 P5 - Louisville
Arkansas: 8 P5
Auburn: 9 P5 - Washington
LSU: 9 P5 - Miami
Miss. St.: 9 P5 - KSU
Ole Miss. 9P5 - TT
TAMU: 9 P5 - Clemson

125 P5 = 8.928

Looks like Texas, West Virginia, Ohio State, Purude, Cal, Washington and USC are dumb asses.

We'll give Ohio State a pass because one of their is the Beavers. Everyone like Beavers.

 

[7Samurai13]

Kansas, Florida, Baylor, and Oregon State have gone to major bowls since 2000 (bcs bowls), not many mid-majors can say that. Even cherrry picking names doesn’t quite make the intended point

So because a team was good 15 years means they are good now? Are you secretly a Michigan fan?

 

[Codaxx]

So because a team was good 15 years means they are good now? Are you secretly a Michigan fan?

Baylor is 2 years removed. Let’s say you have to bet $1000 on the 2023 OOC MSU game, would you rather it be Louisiana Monroe or Florida?