David Shaw: CFP should look at full schedules

[Tin Man]

Shaw is a well known SEC/ACC hater.

Ooo... Next stop, Vanderbilt?

 

[Tin Man]

Conference cross to bear? The P12 has USCw. The entire student body consists of navel gazers with useless majors who can't even play a proper game of kick the can. Name another P5 school that has anywhere near as many aimless, self-absorbed students.

 

[7Samurai13]

Conference cross to bear? The P12 has USCw. The entire student body consists of navel gazers with useless majors who can't even play a proper game of kick the can. Name another P5 school that has anywhere near as many aimless, self-absorbed students.

Michigan?

 

[Codaxx]

Good grief. He is talking about minutia so far below the noise level that it simply isn't important.

If you just win all of your games, no one is going to care when you had a bye week or if you played an FCS team.

And to claim that when bye weeks and FCS games occur during the season is more important than strength of schedule is simply asinine.

Agreed. It’s not like they always take the hughest SOS. Coaches should be asking for clear criteria the committee will use, not worried about this nonsense

 

[Deep Creek]

Agreed. It’s not like they always take the hughest SOS. Coaches should be asking for clear criteria the committee will use, not worried about this nonsense

The committee isn't going to do that because they'd lose their wiggle room. Disclosing concrete clear criteria would not allow them to use Skinner's Constant or Finnegan's Finnagling Factor.

 

[socaljim242]

Conference cross to bear? The P12 has USCw. The entire student body consists of navel gazers with useless majors who can't even play a proper game of kick the can. Name another P5 school that has anywhere near as many aimless, self-absorbed students.

 

[Deep Creek]

Michigan?

You could see this one coming. Just wasn't sure if it would be a bucknut or a Sparty.

 

[Codaxx]

The committee isn't going to do that because they'd lose their wiggle room. Disclosing concrete clear criteria would not allow them to use Skinner's Constant or Finnegan's Finnagling Factor.

100% correct. That is why I would rather see 12 team playoff. I also think the month a change off is ridiculous. Not to poke the Bama bears, but I don’t think LSU wins their title (2 loss team) or Bama last year if there wasn’t such a big break to get healthy.

 

[7Samurai13]

100% correct. That is why I would rather see 12 team playoff. I also think the month a change off is ridiculous. Not to poke the Bama bears, but I don’t think LSU wins their title (2 loss team) or Bama last year if there wasn’t such a big break to get healthy.

But the other team is also getting healthy, right?

 

[Codaxx]

But the other team is also getting healthy, right?

That assumes they were in the same condition in November.

 

[Tin Man]

Wish my firewall wasn't blocking the image in your retort, socaljim. Honestly, I was fishing for another Condoms fan who harkens back to the old FN.

 

[huskers1217]

Good grief. He is talking about minutia so far below the noise level that it simply isn't important.

If you just win all of your games, no one is going to care when you had a bye week or if you played an FCS team.

And to claim that when bye weeks and FCS games occur during the season is more important than strength of schedule is simply asinine.

unless you play for the SEC then you get a mulligan or two

 

[socaljim242]

Wish my firewall wasn't blocking the image in your retort, socaljim. Honestly, I was fishing for another Condoms fan who harkens back to the old FN.

Its a picture of a Tenn fan with a Tenn "T" shaved into his mustache and goattee. It's pretty sweet and funny. lol

 

[7Samurai13]

unless you play for the SEC then you get a mulligan or two

So Oregon, Ohio State, Clemson, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Washington, Oklahoma, Clemson didn’t get mulligans?

 

[Deep Creek]

So Oregon, Ohio State, Clemson, Michigan State, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Washington, Oklahoma, Clemson didn’t get mulligans?

Yeah, but some of 'em hit the mulligan in the water. A couple even hit it way out of bounds!

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Imagine half the NFL playing a 16 game regular season schedule and the other half playing 15 games.


ACC Atlantic
Boston College: 9 P5 - Purdue
Clemson: 10 P5 - TAMU, SCAR
FSU: 10 P5 - UF, ND
Louisville: 10 P5 - Alabama, UK
NCST: 9 P5 - WVU
Syracuse: 9 P5 - ND
WF: 9 P5 - ND

ACC Coastal
Duke: 10 P5 - Northwestern, Baylor
GT: 9 P5 - UGA
Miami: 9 P5 - LSU
UNC: 9 P5 - Cal
Pitt: 10 P5 - PSU, ND
UVA: 9 P5 - Indiana
VT: 9 P5 - ND

131 P5 = 9.357


Big 12
Baylor: 10 P5 - Duke
Iowa St.: 10 P5 - Iowa
KU: 10 P5 - Rutgers
KSU: 10 P5 - Miss. St.
OU: 10 P5 - UCLA
Okie Light - 9 P5
TCU: 10 P5 - Ohio St.
Texas: 11 P5 - Maryland, USC
TT: 10 P5 - ole Miss
WVU: 11 P5 - NCST, Tennessee

101 P5 = 10.1


B1G East
Indiana: 10 P5 - UVA
Maryland: 10 P5 - Texas
UM: 10 P5 - ND
MSU: 10 P5 - ASU
OSU: 11 P5 - Oregon St., TCU
PSU: 10 P5 - Pitt
Rutgers: 10 P5 - Kansas

B1G West
Illinois: 9 P5
Iowa: 10 P5 - Iowa St.
Minnesota: 9 P5
Nebraska: 10 P5 - Colorado
Northwestern: 11 P5 - Duke, ND
Purdue: 11 P5 - Mizzou, BC
Wisconsin: 10 P5 - BYU

141 P5 = 10.071


PAC North
Cal: 11 P5 - North Carolina, BYU
Oregon: 9 P5
Oregon St.: 9 P5
Stanford: 10 P5 - ND
Washington: 11 P5 - Auburn, BYU
Washington St.: 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona: 10 P5 - BYU
Arizona St.: 10 P5 - Michigan St.
Colorado: 10 P5 - Nebraska
UCLA: 10 P5 - Oklahoma
USC: 11 P5 - Texas, ND
Utah: 10 P5 - BYU

119 P5 = 9.916


SEC East
UF: 9 P5 - FSU
UGA: 9 P5 - GT
UK: 9 P5 - Louisville
Mizzou: 9 P5 - Purdue
SCAR: 9 P5 - Clemson
UT: 9 P5 - WVU
Vandy: 9P5 - ND

SEC West
Alabama: 9 P5 - Louisville
Arkansas: 8 P5
Auburn: 9 P5 - Washington
LSU: 9 P5 - Miami
Miss. St.: 9 P5 - KSU
Ole Miss. 9P5 - TT
TAMU: 9 P5 - Clemson

125 P5 = 8.928

 

[4down20]

No clue but it's not my job to know lol. Common sense dictates that playing 4 OOC games results on a better chance to win 6+ overall though. That's why leagues do it

So you're bitching about something and you have no clue if it even has any effect at all?

It's 100% bullshit that the leagues decide the number of conference games on this. You just straight made shit up because you think it sounds good, regardless of the reality. That or you're a college football noob that doesn't know shit about college football.

8 was the norm because conferences only had 12 teams. The only conferences that played 9 games were the ones that had only 10 teams in the conference and a round robin format, aka the Pac12 back in the day. The Pac12 added more teams but kept it's 9 game schedule, while the Big12 lost teams down to 8, then 10 and went to 9 games for round robin.

It was only recently that the Big10 decided they'd be stupid and went from 8 games to 9 games after expanding the number of teams.

Going even further, 20 years ago it was only an 11 game schedule. When they added a 12 game to the schedule, that is when basically everyone started playing the FCS game. And why was that done? For an extra home game and more money, not for some competitive advantage as simple "common sense" fucks like yourself seem to think.

So why is the SEC reluctant to go to 9 games now? Because they understand it means they get to schedule an extra home game and make more money.

What actually determines schedule strength? Tough opponents. Which Iowa knows little about playing in the Big10 west. No surprise it's always the teams that play the easiest schedules who want to harp on ignorant labels.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

So you're bitching about something and you have no clue if it even has any effect at all?

It's 100% bullshit that the leagues decide the number of conference games on this. You just straight made shit up because you think it sounds good, regardless of the reality. That or you're a college football noob that doesn't know shit about college football.

8 was the norm because conferences only had 12 teams. The only conferences that played 9 games were the ones that had only 10 teams in the conference and a round robin format, aka the Pac12 back in the day. The Pac12 added more teams but kept it's 9 game schedule, while the Big12 lost teams down to 8, then 10 and went to 9 games for round robin.

It was only recently that the Big10 decided they'd be stupid and went from 8 games to 9 games after expanding the number of teams.

Going even further, 20 years ago it was only an 11 game schedule. When they added a 12 game to the schedule, that is when basically everyone started playing the FCS game. And why was that done? For an extra home game and more money, not for some competitive advantage as simple "common sense" fucks like yourself seem to think.

So why is the SEC reluctant to go to 9 games now? Because they understand it means they get to schedule an extra home game and make more money.

What actually determines schedule strength? Tough opponents. Which Iowa knows little about playing in the Big10 west. No surprise it's always the teams that play the easiest schedules who want to harp on ignorant labels.

Being in a conference means actually playing said conference members. I think it's obvious to us all that the ACC & SEC hate what college football is supposed to be about.

 

[NolePride]

Folks...we are supposed to be educated adults. (UF fans excluded).

If anybody has been taught anything about succeeding in life, there
are at least 2 adages you have to be aware of.

"You only get one chance to make a good first impression."

"Perception is Reality"

Those slogans can be useful in scheduling. Week #1 of the CFB
weekend will see 5 Neutral site high-profile games. The SEC is
playing in all 5 of them.

Louisville-Alabama (Orlando)
Miami-LSU (Arlington)
W Va-Tenn (Charlotte)
Washington-Auburn (Atlanta)
Tx Tech-Ole Miss (Houston)

The SEC puts themselves on Center Stage every year in week #1.
They control perception and they make a good first impression.
That's the name of the game.

Furthermore, when the final week before the CCG's occur...the
SEC is right back on center stage.

Auburn-Ala
Miss St-Ole Miss
LSU-Tx AM

Plus 4 OOC games vs P5 competition

Ga-Ga Tech
UF-FSU
UofL-Kentucky
Clemson-So Car.

Perception and Impression when the majority of the CFB world
is watching.

Nobody gives a shit about what FCS school they beat.

They set the narrative (talking points, if you prefer) in Wk #1
and cement it in week 13.

They know how to schedule. They sit on top of the hill.

The problem isn't with how the SEC or ACC schedule. It is how
the other leagues schedule.

Playing a 9th conf game keeps you from scheduling another team
from a P5 league...especially from the ACC or SEC.

You beat one of those teams you get "implied" wins. An example
would be, if we beat UF, every win they have vs an SEC school
is now a win for us (implied).

If you want to take the SEC off of the top of the hill...you have to
knock them off that hill. You can't knock them off that hill
if you are too busy crossing your fingers hoping that your league
will give you Oregon State or Illinois as a 9th league game.

 

[4down20]

Imagine half the NFL playing a 16 game regular season schedule and the other half playing 15 games.


ACC Atlantic
Boston College: 9 P5 - Purdue
Clemson: 10 P5 - TAMU, SCAR
FSU: 10 P5 - UF, ND
Louisville: 10 P5 - Alabama, UK
NCST: 9 P5 - WVU
Syracuse: 9 P5 - ND
WF: 9 P5 - ND

ACC Coastal
Duke: 10 P5 - Northwestern, Baylor
GT: 9 P5 - UGA
Miami: 9 P5 - LSU
UNC: 9 P5 - Cal
Pitt: 10 P5 - PSU, ND
UVA: 9 P5 - Indiana
VT: 9 P5 - ND

131 P5 = 9.357


Big 12
Baylor: 10 P5 - Duke
Iowa St.: 10 P5 - Iowa
KU: 10 P5 - Rutgers
KSU: 10 P5 - Miss. St.
OU: 10 P5 - UCLA
Okie Light - 9 P5
TCU: 10 P5 - Ohio St.
Texas: 11 P5 - Maryland, USC
TT: 10 P5 - ole Miss
WVU: 11 P5 - NCST, Tennessee

101 P5 = 10.1


B1G East
Indiana: 10 P5 - UVA
Maryland: 10 P5 - Texas
UM: 10 P5 - ND
MSU: 10 P5 - ASU
OSU: 11 P5 - Oregon St., TCU
PSU: 10 P5 - Pitt
Rutgers: 10 P5 - Kansas

B1G West
Illinois: 9 P5
Iowa: 10 P5 - Iowa St.
Minnesota: 9 P5
Nebraska: 10 P5 - Colorado
Northwestern: 11 P5 - Duke, ND
Purdue: 11 P5 - Mizzou, BC
Wisconsin: 10 P5 - BYU

141 P5 = 10.071


PAC North
Cal: 11 P5 - North Carolina, BYU
Oregon: 9 P5
Oregon St.: 9 P5
Stanford: 10 P5 - ND
Washington: 11 P5 - Auburn, BYU
Washington St.: 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona: 10 P5 - BYU
Arizona St.: 10 P5 - Michigan St.
Colorado: 10 P5 - Nebraska
UCLA: 10 P5 - Oklahoma
USC: 11 P5 - Texas, ND
Utah: 10 P5 - BYU

119 P5 = 9.916


SEC East
UF: 9 P5 - FSU
UGA: 9 P5 - GT
UK: 9 P5 - Louisville
Mizzou: 9 P5 - Purdue
SCAR: 9 P5 - Clemson
UT: 9 P5 - WVU
Vandy: 9P5 - ND

SEC West
Alabama: 9 P5 - Louisville
Arkansas: 8 P5
Auburn: 9 P5 - Washington
LSU: 9 P5 - Miami
Miss. St.: 9 P5 - KSU
Ole Miss. 9P5 - TT
TAMU: 9 P5 - Clemson

125 P5 = 8.928

^method thinks playing Alabama and playing Oregon St is equal.

Lick more windows dipshit.