Browns get Watson

[Stakesarehigh]

Help me out Cleveland fans. Who is fucking me over? Is it Cooper or DeShawn Massagey? 4 targets and no catches. WTF

Cooper dropped at least 2 balls. One for 30 yards easy.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Help me out Cleveland fans. Who is fucking me over? Is it Cooper or DeShawn Massagey? 4 targets and no catches. WTF

Cooper

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

If he continues to be awful and we can use it to our advantage great......but this sure seems like another cash grab. Now they are saying they have video evidence AND a witness. But they never went to the police?

Yeah all it takes is an allegation and the player is considered guilty, the Commanders released their kicker over an allegation. It not fair at all but given Watson's history well........

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah all it takes is an allegation and the player is considered guilty, the Commanders released their kicker over an allegation. It not fair at all but given Watson's history well........

watson history likely doesn't help matters, but should also come into play it's clear many of the accusers lied.

Not saying we know this person lied but would be nice if there were more serious repercussions for those who do if it can be proven.

 

[fightinfunbags]

watson history likely doesn't help matters, but should also come into play it's clear many of the accusers lied.

Not saying we know this person lied but would be nice if there were more serious repercussions for those who do if it can be proven.

That would be absolutely horrible. Survivors of r*pe and sexual assault get shit on in America. Most situations become a He Said She Said with tangible evidence explained away with the claim of “consensual”. Women are raked over the coals if these things actually go to trial. Defense attorneys turn it on the women themselves and say they’re sluts who were asking for it. This is why so few women who were sexually assaulted actually come forward. The successful prosecution stats are horrible and that’s even with a weeding out process.

You want to now turn it around and bring charges on women if they can’t successfully win a prosecution? I can’t believe anyone would ever want to make this process MORE difficult on victims. I REALLY can’t believe somebody would argue that based on white knighting for a shitty QB. Yikes.

That’s my last post on this. I can’t do a back and forth with you on this topic as we do other topics. These mods are looking to zap my screen name for good. You can have the last word.

 

[ElPatron1]

That would be absolutely horrible. Survivors of r*pe and sexual assault get shit on in America. Most situations become a He Said She Said with tangible evidence explained away with the claim of “consensual”. Women are raked over the coals if these things actually go to trial. Defense attorneys turn it on the women themselves and say they’re sluts who were asking for it. This is why so few women who were sexually assaulted actually come forward. The successful prosecution stats are horrible and that’s even with a weeding out process.

You want to now turn it around and bring charges on women if they can’t successfully win a prosecution? I can’t believe anyone would ever want to make this process MORE difficult on victims. I REALLY can’t believe somebody would argue that based on white knighting for a shitty QB. Yikes.

That’s my last post on this. I can’t do a back and forth with you on this topic as we do other topics. These mods are looking to zap my screen name for good. You can have the last word.

Most woman lie

 

[Stakesarehigh]

That would be absolutely horrible. Survivors of r*pe and sexual assault get shit on in America. Most situations become a He Said She Said with tangible evidence explained away with the claim of “consensual”. Women are raked over the coals if these things actually go to trial. Defense attorneys turn it on the women themselves and say they’re sluts who were asking for it. This is why so few women who were sexually assaulted actually come forward. The successful prosecution stats are horrible and that’s even with a weeding out process.

You want to now turn it around and bring charges on women if they can’t successfully win a prosecution? I can’t believe anyone would ever want to make this process MORE difficult on victims. I REALLY can’t believe somebody would argue that based on white knighting for a shitty QB. Yikes.

That’s my last post on this. I can’t do a back and forth with you on this topic as we do other topics. These mods are looking to zap my screen name for good. You can have the last word.

Still blows my mind they fuck with you to the extent they do. There is much worse on here.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

watson history likely doesn't help matters, but should also come into play it's clear many of the accusers lied.

Not saying we know this person lied but would be nice if there were more serious repercussions for those who do if it can be proven.

While I agree with you about the accusers facing repecussions if they lied, and I don't really want to get into all of this, but what evidence is there that many of them lied?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

At best, Watson is a creep. There is no question he at minimum asked for sexual favors. No one goes through that many masseuses. It became a conquest for him and he got off on it.

That said, it was determined what he did was not criminal. I question the timing of the new accusation but it truly would be best case scenario for Cleveland, he isn't playing up to his deal at all.

 

[dtgold88]

That would be absolutely horrible. Survivors of r*pe and sexual assault get shit on in America. Most situations become a He Said She Said with tangible evidence explained away with the claim of “consensual”. Women are raked over the coals if these things actually go to trial. Defense attorneys turn it on the women themselves and say they’re sluts who were asking for it. This is why so few women who were sexually assaulted actually come forward. The successful prosecution stats are horrible and that’s even with a weeding out process.

You want to now turn it around and bring charges on women if they can’t successfully win a prosecution? I can’t believe anyone would ever want to make this process MORE difficult on victims. I REALLY can’t believe somebody would argue that based on white knighting for a shitty QB. Yikes.

That’s my last post on this. I can’t do a back and forth with you on this topic as we do other topics. These mods are looking to zap my screen name for good. You can have the last word.

Ok, cool....I'll only say you should reread what I wrote again and if you are having a hard time understanding something just reply to ask for help.

 

[dtgold88]

While I agree with you about the accusers facing repecussions if they lied, and I don't really want to get into all of this, but what evidence is there that many of them lied?

How about none were held against their will and free to leave if they wanted.....and multiple accusers texted him to see if he would see them again?

 

[dtgold88]

At best, Watson is a creep. There is no question he at minimum asked for sexual favors. No one goes through that many masseuses. It became a conquest for him and he got off on it.

That said, it was determined what he did was not criminal. I question the timing of the new accusation but it truly would be best case scenario for Cleveland, he isn't playing up to his deal at all.

IF he could not get back to at least being a decent QB on a consistent basis and this can help us get out of the deal? OK, that wouldn't bother me. ....Though I'd be confident in saying this is just another cash grab. Video evidence AND witnesses, but never went to police nor a hospital?

and, yes, he has some issues (creep works) and there is certainly a chance he's a sociopath.

 

[PDay8810]

 

[Battlelyon]

Getting rid of Baker was the right decision for Baker

 

[dtgold88]

Getting rid of Baker was the right decision for Baker

are you talking about the Browns, Carolina or the Rams........or all 3?

 

[Battlelyon]

are you talking about the Browns, Carolina or the Rams........or all 3?

Rams are fine with a Super Bowl winning quarterback, Panthers and Browns both could of used him

 

[dtgold88]

Rams are fine with a Super Bowl winning quarterback, Panthers and Browns both could of used him

That SB winning QB is getting old (and losing) and could have a younger, cheaper Baker.

Not sure about last year (and for sure not 2022) but does look like we could use him this year......though Watson did play well today and still lost.

 

[fastforward]

Getting rid of Baker was the right decision for Baker

Mayfield took a $3M pay cut to get out of there and then played the following season for $4M. That's not good decision-making. He should have gritted his teeth and said: "I love being in Cleveland, i'm going to fight for the starting QB job, and I won't be taking a pay cut", like a good little soldier. Either he would have been QB2 on a good team in Cleveland, (starting multiple games with Watson facing a suspension), or he would have been $3M richer when traded and he'd be thought of more positively. The Rams were the only beneficiary of Mayfield leaving Cleveland.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Mayfield took a $3M pay cut to get out of there and then played the following season for $4M. That's not good decision-making. He should have gritted his teeth and said: "I love being in Cleveland, i'm going to fight for the starting QB job, and I won't be taking a pay cut", like a good little soldier. Either he would have been QB2 on a good team in Cleveland, (starting multiple games with Watson facing a suspension), or he would have been $3M richer when traded and he'd be thought of more positively. The Rams were the only beneficiary of Mayfield leaving Cleveland.

Cleveland was not going to pay Watson and Mayfield. Baker did not have the choice to stay in Cleveland, they were trading him the moment they acquired Watson.

 

[fastforward]

Cleveland was not going to pay Watson and Mayfield. Baker did not have the choice to stay in Cleveland, they were trading him the moment they acquired Watson.

Mayfield had a fully guaranteed 1-year $18M+ contract. Cutting him wasn't an option. There was no good reason for Mayfield to take a $3M pay cut so he could be put in the worst possible playing situation. If the Browns were willing to pay $10M to move him he should have forced them to pay the full $13M. If they refused he should have sat on the Browns bench.

I believe he made a bad decision, but it was his decision to make, not mine.