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The NCAA can destroy the entire Pac 12 conference with one fail swoope of ya, you guys can do this and not comply with Title IX. The commissioners office will side with women’s golf over the two revenue generating sports.
See you guys on the other side of the Rockies. Let the two Oregon schools go down with the California ship.
 

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See you guys on the other side of the Rockies. Let the two Oregon schools go down with the California ship.

Womp womp. Keep dreaming. You are tethered to us FOREVER.
 

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See you guys on the other side of the Rockies. Let the two Oregon schools go down with the California ship.

Well USC and Stanford being private schools don’t have to follow state legislation, Cal and UCLA on the other hand wouldn’t have a choice. But Cal is a bankrupt school who’s faculty hate sports so would welcome that.
 

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I wonder where the best players would go...

where they get paid or don’t get paid...

You’re a capitalist. What do you think?

Wonder what derp response AG will have to this.
 

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I wonder where the best players would go...

where they get paid or don’t get paid...

You’re a capitalist. What do you think?

That doesn’t even make sense. The earning potential of a HS athlete goes down massively going to a public California University just for donors which Cal doesn’t have and from the results doesn’t seem like UCLA has any that know how to spend their money.
 

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That doesn’t even make sense. The earning potential of a HS athlete goes down massively going to a public California University just for donors which Cal doesn’t have and from the results doesn’t seem like UCLA has any that know how to spend their money.

Going to assume based on the nonsense you just posted that you are probably drunk.
 

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Going to assume based on the nonsense you just posted that you are probably drunk.

Not this time. Who has more earning potential, an athlete that goes to a university that is sanctioned by the NCAA and on television or an athlete who goes and doesn’t get on tv. You don’t see a hell of a lot of players in the NFL who were studs in the CFL or 18 years old who play in Europe for basketball.
 

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Not this time. Who has more earning potential, an athlete that goes to a university that is sanctioned by the NCAA and on television or an athlete who goes and doesn’t get on tv. You don’t see a hell of a lot of players in the NFL who were studs in the CFL or 18 years old who play in Europe for basketball.

Let's ask LeBron. He seemed to do okay without the NCAA.
 

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Let's ask LeBron. He seemed to do okay without the NCAA.

Ok? If you are going to cite the .000000001% of athletes you have a point. But for every LeBron James there are Jake Heaps or Max Browne’s (just citing top QB who all the recruiting sites say are pro ready). Or hell let’s go back to basketball, there is no Golden State Warriors dynasty if Stephen, Klay and Draymond don’t get to stay in school and exploit television while getting exploited by that evil NCAA.

I don’t disagree with the premise of this idea but people need to quit pretending these athletes are some kids in Thailand getting exploiting without getting anything back such as all the benefits the rest of the student body would die for.
 

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Not this time. Who has more earning potential, an athlete that goes to a university that is sanctioned by the NCAA and on television or an athlete who goes and doesn’t get on tv. You don’t see a hell of a lot of players in the NFL who were studs in the CFL or 18 years old who play in Europe for basketball.

Once California starts treating the players fairly it’s going to spread. If the NCAA doesn’t get on board it will crumble. It’ll be a civil rights issue and the NCAA will be Jim Crow.

And the NFL recruits from schools that are hardly ever on national TV all the time. They’re looking for very specific criteria in the combine. Exact height, speed, strength - they don’t care where you got it. You’re just thinking high profile draft picks. Most of it is totally mundane.
 

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Ok? If you are going to cite the .000000001% of athletes you have a point. But for every LeBron James there are Jake Heaps or Max Browne’s (just citing top QB who all the recruiting sites say are pro ready). Or hell let’s go back to basketball, there is no Golden State Warriors dynasty if Stephen, Klay and Draymond don’t get to stay in school and exploit television while getting exploited by that evil NCAA.

I don’t disagree with the premise of this idea but people need to quit pretending these athletes are some kids in Thailand getting exploiting without getting anything back such as all the benefits the rest of the student body would die for.

Students with athletic goals don’t necessarily have academic goals. In the same way the typical engineering major isn’t interested in working non-stop to play a sport he’s not cut out for many football players aren’t interested in degrees in subjects they don’t have the aptitude to succeed in.

If you’re making the school millions of dollars it should be your choice if you want to be paid with money or just tuition.
 

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Great thread. Now all the posters from the other college football conferences can witness just how many liberal idiot fvcktards represent the PAC schools on here.

If there's a god then Washington will be in another conference by this time next year.
 

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Great thread. Now all the posters from the other college football conferences can witness just how many idiot fvcktards represent the PAC schools on here.

If there's a god then Washington will be in another conference by this time next year.

There’s not.
 

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Great thread. Now all the posters from the other college football conferences can witness just how many liberal idiot fvcktards represent the PAC schools on here.

If there's a god then Washington will be in another conference by this time next year.

Washington is just as liberal as many of the universities in the PAC. They ain't moving.
 

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Besides, the PAC has the TV rights for UW games until 2023.
 

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I’m pretty stoned just FYI but hear me out. With today’s news that California is pushing legislation to pay NCAA athletes for their likeness, I think this sets off a chain reaction of terrible events for the game.

1.) USC, Cal, UCLA and Stanford become automatically ineligible for postseason. (Emmeret wrote this warning to state Senate)

2.) PAC has no choice but to drop them

3.) PAC already struggles with viewership, the top teams will desperately look to new conference homes.

4.) Because of the political nature of things today, more states could follow suite.

5.) Liberal leaning states like Oregon and Washington could be First states to adopt this legislation.

6.) Lawsuits follow by the schools versus the NCAA

7.) States back east start the conversation

8.) Viewership starts to decline as this becomes a hot nationally contested issue since people will claim NCAA is making wayyy too much money off student athlete labor.

9)....

So where does this all go? The state Senate approved the bill last month, with a 31-4 vote with two abstentions, which means it will head to the California Assembly’s Arts, Entertainment, Sports, Tourism and Internet Media Committee for a hearing and vote tomorrow.
Damn good post for a guy that is stoned.:suds:
 

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I’m pretty stoned just FYI but hear me out. With today’s news that California is pushing legislation to pay NCAA athletes for their likeness, I think this sets off a chain reaction of terrible events for the game.

1.) USC, Cal, UCLA and Stanford become automatically ineligible for postseason. (Emmeret wrote this warning to state Senate)

2.) PAC has no choice but to drop them

3.) PAC already struggles with viewership, the top teams will desperately look to new conference homes.

4.) Because of the political nature of things today, more states could follow suite.

5.) Liberal leaning states like Oregon and Washington could be First states to adopt this legislation.

6.) Lawsuits follow by the schools versus the NCAA

7.) States back east start the conversation

8.) Viewership starts to decline as this becomes a hot nationally contested issue since people will claim NCAA is making wayyy too much money off student athlete labor.

9)....

So where does this all go? The state Senate approved the bill last month, with a 31-4 vote with two abstentions, which means it will head to the California Assembly’s Arts, Entertainment, Sports, Tourism and Internet Media Committee for a hearing and vote tomorrow.

It's too early to hit the panic button. Even if the bill passes, it won't go into effect for at least 3 years. By that time the NCAA should have a rule in place that would address the issue in a favorable manner. Other states are already considering similar legislation & the powers-that-be have seen the handwriting on the wall.
 
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