Alabama players getting paid?

[Bandwagonbo2]

If Bama is paying players can they get the same punishment as TAMU?

Nice post, troll much?

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Bama should be far more scared than a normal program.


Even though Bama is off probation, they have to deal with the "repeat offender" rule.

They are subject to trigger laws until 2014 that usually result in full on investigations.

These allegations took place in that window.

The most damning date is the 2011 allegations. That one could be the killer.

So, the NCAA bylaws usually trigger a full investigation of anyone in the "repeat offender" window.

Which means it could be a full anal cavity search for any little thing.

Every school has little things. Now, Bama has to go scrub itself clean in every nook and cranny.

Because even a minor violation could trigger HUGE SANCTIONS thanks the "repeat offender" mandatory punishment rules.

............

Saban to the NFL??

 

[trojanfight]

Once USC was made aware of certain allegations against Bush while Bush still played for USC, the NCAA said this of USC's compliance:

USC’s Compliance Department failed to check the incomplete registration form for Reggie Bush’s vehicle.

USC’s Compliance Department and former head football coach, Pete Carroll, failed to check the living arrangements for Bush’s family in San Diego.

in a nutshell that's what it is. that's why most of the usc fan base thinks they were hosed without proof. maybe they could have gotten a lesser punishment..they had a very reasonable appeal...was denied basically just because. mike garrett the AD at the time sued and won for defamation of character. there was some rumblings of school taking the NCAA to court at one point. but when the new AD came on said he wouldn't pursue it.

fast forward to today.. like I said I don't think saying school/ compliance office didn't know will work...but might be hard to say what school could have done to prevent.

 

[4down20]

Bama should be far more scared than a normal program.


Even though Bama is off probation, they have to deal with the "repeat offender" rule.

They are subject to trigger laws until 2014 that usually result in full on investigations.

These allegations took place in that window.

The most damning date is the 2011 allegations. That one could be the killer.

So, the NCAA bylaws usually trigger a full investigation of anyone in the "repeat offender" window.

Which means it could be a full anal cavity search for any little thing.

Every school has little things. Now, Bama has to go scrub itself clean in every nook and cranny.

Because even a minor violation could trigger HUGE SANCTIONS thanks the "repeat offender" mandatory punishment rules.

............

Saban to the NFL??

Alabama didn't do anything and has nothing to be worried about. It's about a player getting money from an agent during his last year.

Is it that hard to follow?

 

[badinflu]

High profile players demand high profile compliance

 

[WhiteMamba]

Alabama didn't do anything and has nothing to be worried about. It's about a player getting money from an agent during his last year.

Is it that hard to follow?

When you have a repeat offender status. This could be considered lack of institutional control like Stampede stated. That is a direct tie to Alabama. Not just Fluker.

 

[BamaTee1]

Alabama didn't do anything and has nothing to be worried about. It's about a player getting money from an agent during his last year.

Is it that hard to follow?

Hey leave Horns alone. He has it all figured out. Remember, he's the one whose been saying for years this is Texas's year to win the NC. They are older now and have gotten use to Mack Brown's new system. You know the system? The one that mimics Alabama!

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Bama should be far more scared than a normal program.


Even though Bama is off probation, they have to deal with the "repeat offender" rule.

They are subject to trigger laws until 2014 that usually result in full on investigations.

These allegations took place in that window.

The most damning date is the 2011 allegations. That one could be the killer.

So, the NCAA bylaws usually trigger a full investigation of anyone in the "repeat offender" window.

Which means it could be a full anal cavity search for any little thing.

Every school has little things. Now, Bama has to go scrub itself clean in every nook and cranny.

Because even a minor violation could trigger HUGE SANCTIONS thanks the "repeat offender" mandatory punishment rules.

............

Saban to the NFL??

While I dont disagree with anything you have said except the bolded. Many schools ahve gone through full searches and been found to have nothing more than minor(secondary) violations that if reported put them in the clear.

Tying the money to the players physically is going to be the hard part and then proving the schools knew anything about it is another. If not then the most they can do is slap the school for having a player who accepted extra benefits. I am sure the compliance department is on this in full force right now and its being investigated to the nth degree. Listening to Saban tonight shows this is not a subject they will discuss tight now.

 

[BamaTee1]

It's amazing how much stupid people know!

 

[Bamabino]

Please read the article before posting as you would find out yes there are bank account numbers: They have text messages from Fluker with his bank account he just set up at Wells Fargo to get $5000 sent to him:


Phone number tied to Davis (accompanied by a screen shot of a $5,000 deposit into Davis' bank account): "Hodge sent u this"
Phone number tied to Fluker: "What this bro?"
Phone number tied to Davis: "He sent u 5k today."
Phone number tied to Fluker: "To where"
Phone number tied to Davis: "My Wells Fargo acct. do you have a acct with them?"
Phone number tied to Fluker: "I don't"
Phone number tied to Davis: "Who all u bank with?"
Phone number tied to Fluker: "Regions. And compass"
On Dec. 28, 2012, Davis' phone had another round of text exchanges with the number tied to Fluker. They included:
Phone number tied to Fluker: "Hey I open a account at well Fargo"
Phone number tied to Davis: "Thanks! You just made it easier. Want me to transfer the 5?"
Phone number tied to Fluker: "Call me"
The number associated with Fluker then texted Davis a Wells Fargo bank account number. The text exchange concluded:

The alledged date on the tweets is about one week before his final game. All it shows is intent and not proof of any monetary transaction. It's just as likely the money was wired after his eligibility was over.

 

[4down20]

When you have a repeat offender status. This could be considered lack of institutional control like Stampede stated. That is a direct tie to Alabama. Not just Fluker.

LOIC is a big deal, but I have a hard time believing that will happen under Saban's watch. He has too much talent and is a tight ass when it comes to this kind of stuff. It's been shown too much in the past that has 0 tolerance and will sit a player without thought if there is even a hint of concern.

This is the guy who sat a 1st round offensive lineman right before a BCS bowl game remember.

If Saban knew, Fluker would have been kicked off the team and/or made to pay restitution for anything received to become eligible again.

 

[trojanfight]

Alabama didn't do anything and has nothing to be worried about. It's about a player getting money from an agent during his last year.

Is it that hard to follow?

again maybe they didn't know, maybe they didn't do anything wrong...but if true...an ineligible player played for what a year? like I said it will probably be this time 2 years from now before they either let it go or bring forth sanctions. how long has the Miami thing been going? forever and a day. probably wont get much attention till that's over. I wouldn't say they don't have anything to worry about..if proven at a minimum I would say vacated wins...title from 2012. maybe so many scholly reductions... but then you bring in that repeat offender thing so who knows...but its early...enjoy your season..probably next season too before anything happens

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

When you have a repeat offender status. This could be considered lack of institutional control like Stampede stated. That is a direct tie to Alabama. Not just Fluker.

Dont disagree, but it has to be tied to the school in some way. If Alabama has a chance to investigate fully and they find it to be true, they have the chance to distance themselves by reporting it to the NCAA ahead of their investigation, which will lessen their penalty. I am sure Bill Battle has the investigation team well under way at this point and if their is any truth to it, he will out Fluker for hiving done this and accept whatever punishment comes Bama's way. One thing i have learned as a boss of many employees, you cant watch them all, all of the time.

 

[WhiteMamba]

LOIC is a big deal, but I have a hard time believing that will happen under Saban's watch. He has too much talent and is a tight ass when it comes to this kind of stuff. It's been shown too much in the past that has 0 tolerance and will sit a player without thought if there is even a hint of concern.

This is the guy who sat a 1st round offensive lineman right before a BCS bowl game remember.

If Saban knew, Fluker would have been kicked off the team and/or made to pay restitution for anything received to become eligible again.

Unfortunately it is not just Saban but the entire AD. While I agree that he would most likely know everything that is going on around him.

 

[legendsincrimson]

in a nutshell that's what it is. that's why most of the usc fan base thinks they were hosed without proof. maybe they could have gotten a lesser punishment..they had a very reasonable appeal...was denied basically just because. mike garrett the AD at the time sued and won for defamation of character. there was some rumblings of school taking the NCAA to court at one point. but when the new AD came on said he wouldn't pursue it.

fast forward to today.. like I said I don't think saying school/ compliance office didn't know will work...but might be hard to say what school could have done to prevent.

To me, the NCAA wanted to bottle up a bunch of smoke and so that it was fire. Notice the statement that I pulled off of a website:

"The above violations were lumped together with the O.J. Mayo recruitment violation, which USC self-sanctioned, and the case of a woman’s tennis player who used an athletics department long-distance access code to make 123 unauthorized international telephone calls to family members. By lumping all three cases together, the NCAA was able to hit USC with a Lack of Institutional Control (LOIC) violation."

It seems that I remember the allegations against Bush, while he was still playing, but I am not certain of it. Damn! If Reggie Bush had not gotten into a legal dispute with the agents, then the NCAA wouldn't have had any evidence. Once they were deposed under oath. The NCAA went medieval on USC.

 

[4down20]

Unfortunately it is not just Saban but the entire AD. While I agree that he would most likely know everything that is going on around him.

Saban controls everything. There is simply no wiggle room for these kinds of things because of the implications.

I can believe Fluker took money and all that, even if there is not enough evidence to do anything. I can believe it. Stuff like that happens. But you'll have to slap me upside the head with actual real proof when it comes to Saban. It's against everything he does and has done.

 

[legendsincrimson]

High profile players demand high profile compliance

If we were living in the 1850's, I am certain that Saban could rightfully accused of not maintaining complete control over Fluker. Since slavery is abolished, the university has no right to pry into all aspects of the players life and especially without any prior allegation being made.

 

[oregonbro]

This shouldn't be a surprise. Anyone with a brain should know that most of big programs in the country break NCAA rules, especially the SEC. Not saying this one case will be proven, but it is just a matter of time before a big SEC team goes down.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

And you know i just realized something here. How many schools are mentioned in the allegations? How many are being talked about? Can anyone say hate and jealousy? One team has been mentioned in 99.9% of the posts, but its not jealousy at all? Seems we have fairweather friends who call us their second favorite team and then stab us in the back as soon as its turned. then we have haters who want us out of the way so they have a shot.

I would rather win it on the field than watch a great team sat due to the actions of a player doing what many others do on just about every team in the NCAA. Lets turn the microscope on all the programs and see who is clean. Sit in judgment if you will, but that glass house will soon be broken.

 

[WhiteMamba]

wood

take money