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[Stakesarehigh]

Browns traded up to get Junkin at 5 lol. Id go with him

 

[Cincyfan78]

Browns traded up to get Junkin at 5 lol. Id go with him

Did not realize this.

Since both Bush and Junkins were part of trade ups to draft them, and considering how short Junkins career was compared to Bush...even with his controller disconnected (one of the funnier clips I'll ever see) ...

I'm changing my vote to Junkins.

 

[Pure Steel]

Man, it may be some recency bias, but I'll have a hard time not going with Devin Bush here... Steelers swapped 1sts & gave up a 2nd & 3rd to move up 10 spots in the 2019 draft to select Devin Bush. He had a pretty damn solid rookie year though before his controller became unplugged. He had a bad knee injury & was never the same. So for those that don't want to knock a guy for injuries... Make that what you will. He went to Seattle & then to Cleveland. From what I recall he had a bit of a resurgence in Cleveland, but landed himself in hot water over a physical altercation at a massage parlor just this offseason.

But Junkin... Only made it 2 seasons with the Browns before they parted ways. And only started a measly 7 games. He played 1 more season with the Cheifs, before he called it quits on his career.

Huey Richardson is in every discussion…..useless from day one…..

 

[thedddd]

Comes down to Junkin, Bush and Richardson for me. Once again the Ravens don't even touch the top of this category.

But my vote is for Junkin for this reason. Thanks Cleveland.

Mike Junkin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Junkin was selected in the first round with the fifth overall pick in the 1987 NFL draft by the Cleveland Browns.[12] To acquire him, the Browns traded Chip Banks along with their first and second-round picks to the San Diego Chargers for their first and second-round picks.[13] In regards to the selection, head coach Marty Schottenheimer stated that scout Dom Anile had watched him play, and compared his playing style to "a mad dog in a meat market."[14] However, Anile saw him as a second-round talent despite the quote, and felt he was not worth the fifth overall selection, but Schottenheimer overruled his scouts and selected Junkin with that pick.[2] The Browns' archrival, the Pittsburgh Steelers, were surprised at the pick as they had expected the Browns to select Shane Conlan after trading up for the pick; the St. Louis Cardinals selection of Kelly Stouffer and the Buffalo Bills selection of Conlan eventually allowed the Steelers to select future Hall of Fame cornerback Rod Woodson, haunting the Browns for years.[15]

 

[Maximus Rex]

I vote Junkin, with Huey Richardson a close second.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Yea I didn't know the Browns gave up that much capital to trade up to draft that POS "mad dog in the meat market"...

Junkin is my vote too.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

That's a quick 5 votes for Junkin.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Ok - next position - I'm voting for a Raven. Period. I don't care if it's Ed Reed....Raven. LOL

 

[Superbelt]

What an appropriate last name for Junkins.

Add my vote to him.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Man - way too much agreement on this one...dude was a true dud...

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Ok - next position - I'm voting for a Raven. Period. I don't care if it's Ed Reed....Raven. LOL

Their strongest contenders at this point:

CB DeRon Jenkins (2nd Rd - 1996)
S Matt Elam (1st Rd - 2013)

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I don’t think we need to kick that one around any longer… Junkin it is.

Let’s move on to CB for the AFCN ALL BUST TEAM!

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Names to consider:

Browns:
Justin Gilbert (1st Rd - 8th overall - 2014) probably the winner here

Bengals:
Lewis Billups (2nd Rd - 1986)
Rickey Dixon (1st Rd - 5th overall - 1988)
Darqueze Dennard (1st Rd - 24th overall - 2014)

Ravens:
DeRon Jenkins (2nd Rd - 1996)

Steelers:
Ron Johnson (1st Rd - 22nd overall - 1978)
Deon Figures (1st Rd - 23rd overall - 1993)
Ricardo Colclough (2nd Rd - 2004)
Senquez Golson (2nd Rd - 2015)
Artie Burns (1st Rd - 25th overall - 2016)

 

[Cincyfan78]

Names to consider:

Browns:
Justin Gilbert... probably the winner here

Bengals:
Lewis Billups (2nd Rd - 1986)
Rickey Dixon (1st Rd - 5th overall - 1988)
Darqueze Dennard (1st Rd - 24th overall - 2014)

Ravens:
DeRon Jenkins (2nd Rd - 1996)

Steelers:
Ron Johnson (1st Rd - 22nd overall - 1978)
Deon Figures (1st Rd - 23rd overall - 1993)
Ricardo Colclough (2nd Rd - 2004)
Senquez Golson (2nd Rd - 2015)
Artie Burns (1st Rd - 25th overall - 2016)

Gilbert is your, likely, singular winner. However....

I'm going to go....Senquez Golson.

Here me out, though. Yes, he was a 2nd round pick...but was an All-American who ended up playing 0 snaps AND because of his inability to play...the Steelers, the following year, would draft Artie Burns in the 1st round. He also was not good...so, in effect...Golson cost them both a 2nd AND a 1st round pick, both were busts.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Gilbert is your, likely, singular winner. However....

I'm going to go....Senquez Golson.

Here me out, though. Yes, he was a 2nd round pick...but was an All-American who ended up playing 0 snaps AND because of his inability to play...the Steelers, the following year, would draft Artie Burns in the 1st round. He also was not good...so, in effect...Golson cost them both a 2nd AND a 1st round pick, both were busts.

But then there's the injury excuse. We never got to see him play at the NFL level.

Artie Burns had 1 ok year, and then was trash. Still somehow carved out a decent career (CHI & SEA).

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Bengals - CB Ricky Dixon
Browns - CB Justin Gilbert *my pick*
Ravens - No flops
Steelers - CB Artie Burns

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Gilbert in a landslide.

 

[thedddd]

Justin Gilbert is #1 and #2 is Artie "Gets" Burns.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Justin Gilbert is #1 and #2 is Artie "Gets" Burns.

Yep, what @thedddd said.

 

[Cincyfan78]

But then there's the injury excuse. We never got to see him play at the NFL level.

Artie Burns had 1 ok year, and then was trash. Still somehow carved out a decent career (CHI & SEA).

Right, there is that discussion - I was just alluding to the fact that the 1st bad pick caused the 2nd pick, and in effect wasted multiple picks...that's some heavy duty lifting.

As I said before, I think the singular answer is Gilbert...I just find it interesting that Burns was caused by another pick, who also did not play well or could not stay healthy...and they didn't wait long because they drafted Burns directly the year after when expectations were that the 1st guy would be back for his 2nd season.

Official pick: Gilbert