A.L. Central Discussion 2016

[MiamiVice]

Kipnis' OPS+ was identical to Upton's, and once called up, Lindor's was better. I'm sure you saw that, but it didn't fit your narrative.

lindor played how many games last year? was he qualified? no... i did see kipnis was equal.. however.. that isn't better is it.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I just played you like a shitty fiddle passed down from a red neck in ohio to his inbred son.

Have you ever had an original thought that wasn't fucking stupid?

 

[MiamiVice]

My post count.

i knew you were going to post that.

 

[MiamiVice]

Have you ever had an original thought that wasn't fucking stupid?

have you ever brushed your teeth?

 

[broncosmitty]

Kipnis' OPS+ was identical to Upton's, and once called up, Lindor's was better. I'm sure you saw that, but it didn't fit your narrative.

Never let reality get in the way of shitting on teams that finished above yours last year.

 

[MiamiVice]

Never let reality get in the way of shitting on teams that finished above yours last year.

who cares about last year.. the Tigers have 9 guys on the 25 man that were not there last year...

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

lindor played how many games last year? was he qualified? no... i did see kipnis was equal.. however.. that isn't better is it.

The point you were trying to assert was that Upton is a better hitter than every Indian with the exception of an injured Brantley. Of course, that's not true, so you adjusted your "did you know" bit accordingly.

 

[MiamiVice]

The point you were trying to assert was that Upton is a better hitter than every Indian with the exception of an injured Brantley. Of course, that's not true, so you adjusted your "did you know" bit accordingly.

Upton IS a better hitter than Kipnis.. Look at career numbers.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Have you ever had an original thought that wasn't fucking stupid?

have you ever brushed your teeth?

I'll take that as a resounding "no."

 

[MiamiVice]

Career OPS+ of 121 - BA of .271 - OBP of .352 - OPS of .825 Ave # of HR per year - 26 Average RBI per year 84
Career OPS+ of 111 - BA of .272 - OBP of .346 - OPS of .757 Ave # of HR per year - 14 Average RBI per year 73


Which is better?

 

[MiamiVice]

Jason Kipnis wishes he was Justin Upton at the plate.

 

[broncosmitty]

who cares about last year.. the Tigers have 9 guys on the 25 man that were not there last year...

Are you counting Iglesias and Sanchez or any of the other Mexicans who were hurt?

 

[broncosmitty]

Career OPS+ of 121 - BA of .271 - OBP of .352 - OPS of .825 Ave # of HR per year - 26 Average RBI per year 84
Career OPS+ of 111 - BA of .272 - OBP of .346 - OPS of .757 Ave # of HR per year - 14 Average RBI per year 73


Which is better?

The Tiger?

 

[StanMarsh51]

The fact they lost 3 of their main bullpen arms from last year... and are going into the season with Ian Kennedy as a starter, and he had an ERA+ of 85 last year in a pitcher friendly environment.

A good portion of Kennedy's numbers spike may be due to the injury he had early in the season. The last 4 months of 2015, he had a 3.41 ERA and averaged more than a K per inning. I can't imagine him being much worse than a guy like Guthrie or Cueto during the KC time last year.

Regarding the bullpen, they lost Holland, Madson and Morales. Holland was pretty bad, and they added Soria, who was better than Morales and Holland last year. I don't see Holland being a big loss because of how poor he was, but Madson is a huge loss.


I don't see how these are enough to make a team go from an 111 ERA+ to sucking...

 

[MiamiVice]

A good portion of Kennedy's numbers spike may be due to the injury he had early in the season. The last 4 months of 2015, he had a 3.41 ERA and averaged more than a K per inning. I can't imagine him being much worse than a guy like Guthrie or Cueto during the KC time last year.

Regarding the bullpen, they lost Madson and Morales (not sure who the 3rd main bullpen guy you're referring to is). They added Soria, who was better than Morales last year.


I don't see how these are enough to make a team go from an 111 ERA+ to sucking...

They lost Holland too .

 

[MiamiVice]

The Tiger?

Just curious smitty... do you want to have sex with slinky? because you seem to be his butt buddy.

 

[MiamiVice]

The Tiger?

I didn't label which is which.. why not tell me which player has the better career stats... the first line or the second...

 

[StanMarsh51]

They lost Holland too .

Yea I forgot about him and edited the post before your reply...Holland was pretty bad last year, so I'm not sure how big a loss that will be.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Career OPS+ of 121 - BA of .271 - OBP of .352 - OPS of .825 Ave # of HR per year - 26 Average RBI per year 84
Career OPS+ of 111 - BA of .272 - OBP of .346 - OPS of .757 Ave # of HR per year - 14 Average RBI per year 73


Which is better?

I'm not saying that Kipnis is a better hitter, in fact I agree that Upton is better, but it's a lot closer than these numbers indicate and certainly closer than you're implying. These career numbers are skewed by an injury year for Kipnis and an outlier "MVP" year from Upton.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The Tiger?

Hahahaha.