2023 Rosterbation

[LHG]

One thing I saw reported about Correa that hasn’t been mentioned here:

Boras was negotiating directly with Greg Johnson , FO not on board. Once the physical came up, the FO shut down a deal it didn’t want to make. Thus, FZ was never on board and this was an internal power struggle.

if this is true, I can’t see the team keeping FZ.

If this story is true, it makes the call to Crawford, telling him he is moving to third base, bizarre. Why do that if the FO wasn't in favor of the deal?

 

[LHG]

3 AAAA mid infielders and getting 5 NRI bully arms.

And a towel to clean up, of course.

Good thing we brought back Walton and Welker (traded for Wisely . . . ).

 

[LHG]

One of the conspiracy theories I heard on talk radio here (SF) was that the days after signing Correa didn't create ANY uptick in season ticket sales or requests, or any additional activity at the box office so management panicked.

 

[Mays-Fan]

One of the conspiracy theories I heard on talk radio here (SF) was that the days after signing Correa didn't create ANY uptick in season ticket sales or requests, or any additional activity at the box office so management panicked.

I doubt there's any substance to this one:

1) Not enough time to have any impact
2) Fans still wary after the Judge failure
3) Correa signing was not a certainty

 

[Mays-Fan]

I think Occam's Razor applies here. The simple, most obvious explanation is the one that fits.

1) We agreed to a deal with Correa contingent on him passing a physical
2) We called Crawford and the parties agreed that Crawford would move to 3B
3) Correa failed his physical and we backed out. Confidentiality (HIPAA) laws preclude us from discussing Correa's health details, so that adds to the confusion
4) In the awkward hours after #3, the media looked to serve its own interests (as they always do, instead of seek the actual truth) and find someone to blame.
5) Fans seek to engage themselves in their own theories.

 

[calsnowskier]

On the MLB general page, some BoSox fans floated trading Devers to the Giants. They floated centering the deal on Yaz and Wood (Devers is a FA after ‘23).

What would it cost?

if all it cost was Yaz and Wood, I think the Giants jump on that immediately. But I don’t see the Sox doing that. Yaz has a name, but he is a good #3 OF at best and Wood is ideally a good swing man. Is giving up Schmitt worth it? Would he even be enough? Giving up a legit stud prospect for 1 season of a stud bat in a season where we really aren’t legit contenders? Just for the chance to negotiate with him for a longer contract?

 

[Mays-Fan]

On the MLB general page, some BoSox fans floated trading Devers to the Giants. They floated centering the deal on Yaz and Wood (Devers is a FA after ‘23).

What would it cost?

if all it cost was Yaz and Wood, I think the Giants jump on that immediately. But I don’t see the Sox doing that. Yaz has a name, but he is a good #3 OF at best and Wood is ideally a good swing man. Is giving up Schmitt worth it? Would he even be enough? Giving up a legit stud prospect for 1 season of a stud bat in a season where we really aren’t legit contenders? Just for the chance to negotiate with him for a longer contract?

This might be good for the Giants if:

1) He was a RHH​

2) He was a physical stud who looked like he kept in shape​

3) He was good defensively​

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Unfortunately, he appears to be none of those.

Boston fans would really like to have another Yaz back on the team. I can't imagine how much pressure that would put on Mike Y.

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[calsnowskier]

This might be good for the Giants if:

1) He was a RHH​

2) He was a physical stud who looked like he kept in shape​

3) He was good defensively​

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Unfortunately, he appears to be none of those.

Boston fans would really like to have another Yaz back on the team. I can't imagine how much pressure that would put on Mike Y.

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And he has made a point of not wanting to do the “Carl-Path”. Left to his own devices, I doubt he would want to play for Boston.

 

[calsnowskier]

As for Devers…

He has enough of a bat that moving him to 1B would be acceptable. Maybe we try to hold on to Schmitt and Devers answers our 1B question?

 

[jeep99tj]

On the MLB general page, some BoSox fans floated trading Devers to the Giants. They floated centering the deal on Yaz and Wood (Devers is a FA after ‘23).

What would it cost?

if all it cost was Yaz and Wood, I think the Giants jump on that immediately. But I don’t see the Sox doing that. Yaz has a name, but he is a good #3 OF at best and Wood is ideally a good swing man. Is giving up Schmitt worth it? Would he even be enough? Giving up a legit stud prospect for 1 season of a stud bat in a season where we really aren’t legit contenders? Just for the chance to negotiate with him for a longer contract?

I wouldn’t mind seeing Devers in SF. And if that’s all it costs, pull the trigger.

 

[Mays-Fan]

As for Devers…

He has enough of a bat that moving him to 1B would be acceptable. Maybe we try to hold on to Schmitt and Devers answers our 1B question?

It might be a decent idea if the Red Sox signed him to a multi-year deal first, THEN we trade for him.

If we have to give up a lot to get what could be a one-year rental, then we should not do that.

 

[calsnowskier]

It might be a decent idea if the Red Sox signed him to a multi-year deal first, THEN we trade for him.

If we have to give up a lot to get what could be a one-year rental, then we should not do that.

That’s my concern. The fact is, right now, as is, he is just a rental. And he, alone, wouldn’t put the Giants into the playoffs, so parting with Schmitt or Luciano would be a bad deal for the Giants (even if they may be a legit demand from Boston).

 

[calsnowskier]

I wouldn’t mind seeing Devers in SF. And if that’s all it costs, pull the trigger.

I couldn’t imagine Boston dealing Devers for JUST Yaz and Wood. But if that were the case, I would not be able to say yes fast enough.

 

[LHG]

On the MLB general page, some BoSox fans floated trading Devers to the Giants. They floated centering the deal on Yaz and Wood (Devers is a FA after ‘23).

What would it cost?

if all it cost was Yaz and Wood, I think the Giants jump on that immediately. But I don’t see the Sox doing that. Yaz has a name, but he is a good #3 OF at best and Wood is ideally a good swing man. Is giving up Schmitt worth it? Would he even be enough? Giving up a legit stud prospect for 1 season of a stud bat in a season where we really aren’t legit contenders? Just for the chance to negotiate with him for a longer contract?

If that is ALL that costs to acquire him, go for it. If there is a much higher cost (i.e. Schmitt) then no. As others pointed out, he's not good defensively, he is a Sandoval 2.0 (that didn't age well) and he doesn't have much time left before free agency. Why bother in a year we won't be clear contenders?

 

[calsnowskier]

If that is ALL that costs to acquire him, go for it. If there is a much higher cost (i.e. Schmitt) then no. As others pointed out, he's not good defensively, he is a Sandoval 2.0 (that didn't age well) and he doesn't have much time left before free agency. Why bother in a year we won't be clear contenders?

Sandoval was a sneaky good defensive 3B…

 

[LHG]

Sandoval was a sneaky good defensive 3B…

I meant in terms of physical conditioning. Sounds like Devers is Sandoval without the defensive abilities.

 

[jeep99tj]

I meant in terms of physical conditioning. Sounds like Devers is Sandoval without the defensive abilities.

Would his offense make up for his defense? Maybe a switch to first would be a good idea. Not that we’ll see him in the black and Orange.

 

[calsnowskier]

Would his offense make up for his defense? Maybe a switch to first would be a good idea. Not that we’ll see him in the black and Orange.

I am not so sure it won’t happen. The Giants need to make some kind of splash to salvage one of the worst off seasons for a team in quite some time. And there have been rumors about Devers getting out of Boston for a while now. It seems like a natural fit for at least some legit discussions between the teams.

 

[jeep99tj]

I am not so sure it won’t happen. The Giants need to make some kind of splash to salvage one of the worst off seasons for a team in quite some time. And there have been rumors about Devers getting out of Boston for a while now. It seems like a natural fit for at least some legit discussions between the teams.

I’m sure if the Giants front office is considering it they are looking at every angle possible. They seem to be gun shy now after the Kris Bryant trade didn’t quite work out the way they had hoped.

 

[filosofy29]

I wouldn’t mind seeing Devers in SF. And if that’s all it costs, pull the trigger.

It would cost neither Yaz nor Wood and would start with our top of the top on our farm team