2017 Texas Rangers offseason thread

[True Rangers Fan]

378 Ks against 39 walks in 424.2 IP

Holy shit!

 

[True Rangers Fan]

do we pick up Napoli's 11M option or let him walk & pay him 2.5M?

Are you serious?

 

[Duane1952]

do we pick up Napoli's 11M option or let him walk & pay him 2.5M? do we pick up Barnett's 4M option? if we do both that ties up 102.333M of the 155M JD says will be our target budget. that leave 52.667M to cover our arbitration cases, whatever Prince will cost us and any free agents that we might sign. assuming Prince will cost us between 9-11M that leaves us between 41.667-43.667M. assuming we sign our arbitration/team controlled MLB-level players(11 by my count) to 2018 salaries of a combined 10-12M that would leave us around 39 to 42M to fill 3 starter, 2 relief and possibly 1 of postitions. if they offer Cashner the QO of 18.1M and he accepts it we are left with between 20.9 and 23.9M for the rest of our needs. JD and his team have their work cut out for them.

Nope. Let both of them walk.

 

[DT LUNA]

378 Ks against 39 walks in 424.2 IP

Holy shit!

Not by any means defending our pitching but these numbers had a lot to do with negative reflections on the rotation. This must be addressed. May have kept us out of the post season.

 

[scotsman1948]

Are you serious?

yes i am. why do you ask? think of it as a poll. yes or no. i would imagine that JD and his team are asking that same question trying to figure out if Napoli will return physically and be able to produce. i say let him walk

 

[DT LUNA]

yes i am. why do you ask? think of it as a poll. yes or no. i would imagine that JD and his team are asking that same question trying to figure out if Napoli will return physically and be able to produce. i say let him walk

Nobody wants him back.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

yes i am. why do you ask? think of it as a poll. yes or no. i would imagine that JD and his team are asking that same question trying to figure out if Napoli will return physically and be able to produce. i say let him walk

I imagine that they are spending zero time asking that question. Napoli is gone, gone, gone.

(don't mean to come off like a dick if I am)

 

[scotsman1948]

I imagine that they are spending zero time asking that question. Napoli is gone, gone, gone.

hope you are right

 

[scotsman1948]

I imagine that they are spending zero time asking that question. Napoli is gone, gone, gone.

(don't mean to come off like a dick if I am)

no problem. just misunderstood your phrasing

 

[saddles]

do we pick up Napoli's 11M option or let him walk & pay him 2.5M? do we pick up Barnett's 4M option? if we do both that ties up 102.333M of the 155M JD says will be our target budget. that leave 52.667M to cover our arbitration cases, whatever Prince will cost us and any free agents that we might sign. assuming Prince will cost us between 9-11M that leaves us between 41.667-43.667M. assuming we sign our arbitration/team controlled MLB-level players(11 by my count) to 2018 salaries of a combined 10-12M that would leave us around 39 to 42M to fill 3 starter, 2 relief and possibly 1 of postitions. if they offer Cashner the QO of 18.1M and he accepts it we are left with between 20.9 and 23.9M for the rest of our needs. JD and his team have their work cut out for them.

I don't pick up Napoli's option if were me, but JD and I don't always feel the same way. I think it might be premature to think the Rangers braintrust might not value Napoli's veteran leadership a lot more than we do. I suspect they let him walk, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

I hate giving up the conditional pick, but I don't think we can take a chance that Cashner costs us $18 million next year.

The Barnette decision is the toughest for me.

I still like the idea of trading Hamels so we can go after Otani and Darvish. Whatever we have to do to be rid of half of Choo's contract would help as well. Replacing Odor's contract with Profar's would help financially as well. That would give enough financial flexibility to sign the starters we need and to go after a closer.

 

[saddles]

378 Ks against 39 walks in 424.2 IP

I know it is Japan, but that is still amazing isn't it.

 

[True Rangers Fan]

I know it is Japan, but that is still amazing isn't it.

it's almost 11-1. Absurd.

 

[DT LUNA]

Not by any means defending our pitching but these numbers had a lot to do with negative reflections on the rotation. This must be addressed. May have kept us out of the post season.

My bad. Thought this was our offense numbers.

 

[scotsman1948]

I don't pick up Napoli's option if were me, but JD and I don't always feel the same way. I think it might be premature to think the Rangers braintrust might not value Napoli's veteran leadership a lot more than we do. I suspect they let him walk, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

I hate giving up the conditional pick, but I don't think we can take a chance that Cashner costs us $18 million next year.

The Barnette decision is the toughest for me.

I still like the idea of trading Hamels so we can go after Otani and Darvish. Whatever we have to do to be rid of half of Choo's contract would help as well. Replacing Odor's contract with Profar's would help financially as well. That would give enough financial flexibility to sign the starters we need and to go after a closer.

just don't see anyway that another team or teams takes on either Choo or Odor. one because of major issues with contract and physical problems that limit him to virtually nothing but DH with limited RF service and the other because of his medocre defense and at the plate discipline. Hamels now you are giving 1 quality starter on the presumption that you might get 2 what are the odds? unless you got the 2 first you would be making a huge gamble

 

[saddles]

just don't see anyway that another team or teams takes on either Choo or Odor. one because of major issues with contract and physical problems that limit him to virtually nothing but DH with limited RF service and the other because of his medocre defense and at the plate discipline. Hamels now you are giving 1 quality starter on the presumption that you might get 2 what are the odds? unless you got the 2 first you would be making a huge gamble

With the love affair many in baseball have with OBP someone just might take Choo off of our hands. It wouldn't be an easy task to accomplish by any means though. I think Odor is young enough that someone is going to be willing to take a chance on him and think if he pans out that contract would be a plus. That is if they don't have to give up much to get him.

All I am saying regarding Hamels is if we are able to sign Otani and Darvish I would be fine with them trading Hamels to help financially To try and get those things done in reverse order would give the wrong signals about not rebuilding I would think.

 

[scotsman1948]

With the love affair many in baseball have with OBP someone just might take Choo off of our hands. It wouldn't be an easy task to accomplish by any means though. I think Odor is young enough that someone is going to be willing to take a chance on him and think if he pans out that contract would be a plus. That is if they don't have to give up much to get him.

All I am saying regarding Hamels is if we are able to sign Otani and Darvish I would be fine with them trading Hamels to help financially To try and get those things done in reverse order would give the wrong signals about not rebuilding I would think.

okay just asking works for me

 

[donaldson79]

it's almost 11-1. Absurd.

That's in the Kershaw Club.

 

[saddles]

 

[Kelleyman]

With the love affair many in baseball have with OBP someone just might take Choo off of our hands. It wouldn't be an easy task to accomplish by any means though. I think Odor is young enough that someone is going to be willing to take a chance on him and think if he pans out that contract would be a plus. That is if they don't have to give up much to get him.

All I am saying regarding Hamels is if we are able to sign Otani and Darvish I would be fine with them trading Hamels to help financially To try and get those things done in reverse order would give the wrong signals about not rebuilding I would think.

I think Choo could be moved eating some of the money due to the back end. Perhaps that is plan within budget. That paves the way for Calhoun to be set in the lineup consistently.

I don't mind moving Hamels as well if we have 5 starters in place. You have to turn your product.

I expect Odor to get better but I don't think we automatically move Profar if Odor is here

 

[Kelleyman]

Maybe Dutch needed that shoulder touch