2014 Offseason Plans Thread

[terpsfball09]

Was told Choo likes Texas more because of their ability to win faster, but its not worth the price drop

 

[WastinSomeTime]

I'm sorta wondering to myself, is trumbo really worth skaggs +? If it were me, I'd keep skaggs over trumbo anyday

The bad with Trumbo is his offense his horrible except HRs but the good news is he is still low cost and reports are that his defense at 1st is much improved. But I am with you. I sure will not miss him against us though.

 

[terpsfball09]

Also was told that he was familiar with one of the school systems down here and that would have been ideal for him

 

[terpsfball09]

The bad with Trumbo is his offense his horrible except HRs but the good news is he is still low cost and reports are that his defense at 1st is much improved. But I am with you. I sure will not miss him against us though.

The way skaggs tore us apart last year is concerning to me

 

[darrylgann]

Was told Choo likes Texas more because of their ability to win faster, but its not worth the price drop

Damn, how much more a millionaire does he want to be. So much for choosing a team.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

Angels are getting Skaggs and Santiago. Dipoto must have had this one handed to him.

Santiago is a promising young pitcher but I would like to have Quintana. What in the world are the Sox getting out of this? Just seems like the Sox and D-Backs are getting the short end on this deal.

 

[Broseidon]

You've got to remember three things though about hoping for rival teams to overpay for the top players:

1). Baseball has no salary cap, so as long as owners are willing to spend like money is no object, overpaying doesn't hurt some teams as much as others.

2). What seems ridiculous to pay a player now might be a little more normal in year 3 or 4 of the deal when all salaries have inflated.

3). The rival team, while overpaying, is still acquiring top talent. So while the Cano/Choo combo might out a financial hurt on the M's in the future, they do no doubt make the M's a tougher divisional opponent for the Rangers in 2014 and 2015.

#2 gets overlooked, good point. But I think generally ppl's issue with mega deals isn't the AAV, it's the length of the deal for aging players.

As for 3...Seattle's attendance has been abysmal, so better players make the team better which increases attendance. Increased attendance means bigger budgets and before you know it the Ms don't completely suck. And I want divison rivals to always suck

 

[terpsfball09]

Damn, how much more a millionaire does he want to be. So much for choosing a team.

lol i think we're talking about a significant price difference here. Wouldnt be surprised if its over 20 million

 

[WilltheThrill]

Was told Choo likes Texas more because of their ability to win faster, but its not worth the price drop

You'd think that if Choo liked the team and area that much better, there would be a price the Rangers could meet him at which would sway him to sign for less here. If it's a matter of just a few million between a yes and no, that's where I would hope Simpson and Davis would step in and bump up the budget.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

Also was told that he was familiar with one of the school systems down here and that would have been ideal for him

That's all fine and good. If he really wanted to play here then he can. Financially he will be fine. But if he just wants the money then adios and I can't blame him. On a personal note I have taken less on multiple job offers because I felt better about the overall situation and it worked out for the best in the long run.

 

[Broseidon]

The bad with Trumbo is his offense his horrible except HRs but the good news is he is still low cost and reports are that his defense at 1st is much improved. But I am with you. I sure will not miss him against us though.

He wouldn't play 1B in zona, they have Goldy. He'd probably play LF...or I dunno, 3B?

Trumbo is a DH/1B type, so dunno. Bet AZ wishes they had JUpton

 

[darrylgann]

lol i think we're talking about a significant price difference here. Wouldnt be surprised if its over 20 million

He ain't worth that. That's more than a lot of better ball players are making. Oh well, on to Cruz.

 

[WastinSomeTime]

I still say throw in a 3rd year for Cruz. I don't see that as being a issue. But maybe JD is waiting until the water is starting to run dry for Cruz and has more leverage. At least lets hope that is what it is.

 

[terpsfball09]

I'm not gonna lie guys, if we're talking about a significant sum of money, like 25 million dollars or so, then I'd find plenty of reasons to like seattle more. If it was just 5 million dollars, then I bet he'd come here. Technically though, he hasnt made his decision yet. I just heard "Choo to seattle seems imminent at this point"

 

[Broseidon]

You'd think that if Choo liked the team and area that much better, there would be a price the Rangers could meet him at which would sway him to sign for less here. If it's a matter of just a few million between a yes and no, that's where I would hope Simpson and Davis would step in and bump up the budget.

It's probably that Texas is offering lower AAV and fewer years.

 

[Justinkm83]

You'd think that if Choo liked the team and area that much better, there would be a price the Rangers could meet him at which would sway him to sign for less here. If it's a matter of just a few million between a yes and no, that's where I would hope Simpson and Davis would step in and bump up the budget.

I agree.

 

[DT LUNA]

You've got to remember three things though about hoping for rival teams to overpay for the top players:

1). Baseball has no salary cap, so as long as owners are willing to spend like money is no object, overpaying doesn't hurt some teams as much as others.

2). What seems ridiculous to pay a player now might be a little more normal in year 3 or 4 of the deal when all salaries have inflated.

3). The rival team, while overpaying, is still acquiring top talent. So while the Cano/Choo combo might put a financial hurt on the M's in the future, they do no doubt make the M's a tougher divisional opponent for the Rangers in 2014 and 2015.

PLZ elaborate on 3). Seems to me they would make a difference or there would be no reason to acquire them.

 

[terpsfball09]

Oh if I caused confusion for you guys sorry. When I say a significant difference I mean in total salary not yearly. Good lord that would be frightening. I think we're offering one year less than seattle and are also giving less money per year

 

[WilltheThrill]

That's all fine and good. If he really wanted to play here then he can. Financially he will be fine. But if he just wants the money then adios and I can't blame him. On a personal note I have taken less on multiple job offers because I felt better about the overall situation and it worked out for the best in the long run.

I agree. Yeah, nobody wants to turn down tons of money. But there comes a point when the difference between salary A and salary B shouldn't matter as much because both salaries are more than one person can spend. Which salary is better, $500 million or $600 million? They're the same essentially because no person should ever approach spending through that much. Offer me $50 million to play for Texas or $70 million to play for Oakland, I take Texas every day of the week.

 

[donaldson79]

That's all fine and good. If he really wanted to play here then he can. Financially he will be fine. But if he just wants the money then adios and I can't blame him. On a personal note I have taken less on multiple job offers because I felt better about the overall situation and it worked out for the best in the long run.

You've been wise and prudent then. Some just few the grass is greener and makes the move and move the move sucks.

If I'm Choo's agent and he wanted to sign in Texas for say, $20,000,000 less than Seattle offered, I might counter with this: "Based on my percentage you've just cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars and all I did was do my job well. You going to make up my lost wages here?"