2014 Offseason Plans Thread

[donaldson79]

If our outfield consisted of rios gentry martin and moreland I think thats pretty awful in my opinion.

Awful? We're going to have 2 outta the 3 for sure. How do you feel about those 2? And defensively, with Martin/Rios/Gentry that's a good OF.

 

[romeo212000]

If our outfield consisted of rios gentry martin and moreland I think thats pretty awful in my opinion.

I don't see that happening. Jd will get another outfielder.

 

[romeo212000]

Awful? We're going to have 2 outta the 3 for sure. How do you feel about those 2? And defensively, with Martin/Rios/Gentry that's a good OF.

Exceptional defensive outfield. Needs more thunder though.

 

[terpsfball09]

Awful? We're going to have 2 outta the 3 for sure. How do you feel about those 2? And defensively, with Martin/Rios/Gentry that's a good OF.

Well Rios is fine. And one of the speedsters in center is fine because you need those guys hitting 9 hole and playing center. But you don't need two of those guys. We need someone like Choo or Ellsbury who can actually drive in those speedy guys or set the table on their own. Hitting with runners in scoring position was a HUGE negative for us last year. We let our 9 hole speedy guy get on base and then the leadoff man will see enough pitches to let him snag a bag, but if not still have the potential to hit a gap shot.

We didn't do that last year at all. This is the year we need to sacrifice some defense for hitting. We started that with Prince. But outfield is what I'm talking about. An outfield with Gentry and Martin or Moreland starting is incredibly mediocre to me

 

[terpsfball09]

Exceptional defensive outfield. Needs more thunder though.

exactly my point. gonna have to sacrifice some of that defense for power potential.

 

[donaldson79]

Nah, there's something else on the horizon.

Like I said, hope it doesn't happen.

But defensively, with Gentry/Martin/Rios out there; yeah, go ahead and try and take that extra base.

 

[romeo212000]

Well Rios is fine. And one of the speedsters in center is fine because you need those guys hitting 9 hole and playing center. But you don't need two of those guys. We need someone like Choo or Ellsbury who can actually drive in those speedy guys or set the table on their own. Hitting with runners in scoring position was a HUGE negative for us last year. We let our 9 hole speedy guy get on base and then the leadoff man will see enough pitches to let him snag a bag, but if not still have the potential to hit a gap shot.

We didn't do that last year at all. This is the year we need to sacrifice some defense for hitting. We started that with Prince. But outfield is what I'm talking about. An outfield with Gentry and Martin or Moreland starting is incredibly mediocre to me

I'm not big on bringing in Jacoby.

 

[terpsfball09]

Plus, I mean its not like an outfield of Gentry/Martin Choo and Rios is bad anyway. I think thats pretty exceptional

 

[terpsfball09]

I'm not big on bringing in Jacoby.

I think I'd rather have choo myself, I was just doing it for argumentative purposes

 

[donaldson79]

Plus, I mean its not like an outfield of Gentry/Martin Choo and Rios is bad anyway. I think thats pretty exceptional

So, Gentry/Martin/Rios is awful, but Choo/Martin/Rios is exceptional. Pretty wild swing in opinion based on a LF.

 

[terpsfball09]

That sounds about right to me

 

[donaldson79]

I'm not big on bringing in Jacoby.

Me either. Over the past 4 years he's played 18, 158, 74, and 134 games.

I'm a big fan of Choo's and see him helping us in so many different ways.

 

[jta4437]

My gosh that's some horrid numbers. He's a long way from being ML ready.

Not neccessarily, its technique, thats something he can improve by leaps and bounds with good teaching

 

[donaldson79]

Not neccessarily, its technique, thats something he can improve by leaps and bounds with good teaching

The numbers quoted are horrid. Can it be improved dramatically with better technique/teaching, yes. But today, that's some very bad stats.

 

[Justinkm83]

My gosh that's some horrid numbers. He's a long way from being ML ready.

During the championship game that I watched the announcers were talking about how good he is defensively. He didn't have any problems at all during that one. He looked good, while gunning out 2 runners.

 

[jta4437]

During the championship game that I watched the announcers were talking about how good he is defensively. He didn't have any problems at all, and gunned out 2 runners.

Don't think his issue is throwing out runners, its blocking pitches

 

[Justinkm83]

Don't think his issue is throwing out runners, its blocking pitchers

I read what you said, but they didn't have anything bad to say about him defensively besides his footwork when throwing out runners. You can tell he's never needed anyone to teach him because of his arm. I don't think he's as far away as I've heard some people think.

 

[donaldson79]

Don't think his issue is throwing out runners, its blocking pitches

The numbers you gave earlier were bleak. But like you said, a lot of improvement can be made with some good coaching (insert Pudge's tutelage here).

 

[Hambombs]

I could be wrong, but I don't see us getting Cruz and choo.

You could be right. But I rather have a guy like choo. Him and fielder being ALOT of plate discipline

 

[donaldson79]

I read what you said, but they didn't have anything bad to say about him defensively besides his footwork when throwing out runners. You can tell he's never needed anyone to teach him because of his arm. I don't think he's as far away as I've heard some people think.

jta quoted 28 pass balls for last season. And it doesn't mention wild pitches, which can sometimes go either way (WP or PB).

There's a lot more to catching than throwing. Just look at Sunny and Pudge.