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1. First round: Own pick
2. Second round: Own pick
3. Third round: Own pick
4. Third round: From Carolina in trade-back during 2012 draft
5. Third round: Likely compensatory selection
6. Fourth round: Own pick
7. Fifth round: Own pick
8. Fifth round: From Indianapolis in trade-back during 2012 draft
9. Sixth round: Own pick
10. Sixth round: From Miami in trade-back during 2012 draft
11. Seventh round: Own pick
12. Seventh round: From Cincinnati for Taylor Mays
13. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection
14. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection



I'd give up all 6 of these picks for one (1) 3rd round pick to another team. Shoot I'd even give up all these picks for one (1) 4th round pick:
9. Sixth round: Own pick
10. Sixth round: From Miami in trade-back during 2012 draft
11. Seventh round: Own pick
12. Seventh round: From Cincinnati for Taylor Mays
13. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection
14. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection




I'd give up all 3 of these picks for one (1) 2nd round pick to another team (whishful thinking). I'd even give up all these picks for one 3rd round pick:
6. Fourth round: Own pick
7. Fifth round: Own pick
8. Fifth round: From Indianapolis in trade-back during 2012 draft



If we are unable to trade up, and are forced to use our draft picks, then I would keep Manningham. Cut ties with a lot of people. Players like Moss, Ginn, Alex, Parys, Dixon, Trenton Robinson, MacBath, Ian Williams, Delanie Walker, Leonard Davis, Gooden, Akers,
 

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I'd give up all 6 of these picks for one (1) 3rd round pick to another team. Shoot I'd even give up all these picks for one (1) 4th round pick:
9. Sixth round: Own pick
10. Sixth round: From Miami in trade-back during 2012 draft
11. Seventh round: Own pick
12. Seventh round: From Cincinnati for Taylor Mays
13. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection
14. Seventh round: Likely compensatory selection




I'd give up all 3 of these picks for one (1) 2nd round pick to another team (whishful thinking). I'd even give up all these picks for one 3rd round pick:
6. Fourth round: Own pick
7. Fifth round: Own pick
8. Fifth round: From Indianapolis in trade-back during 2012 draft



If we are unable to trade up, and are forced to use our draft picks, then I would keep Manningham. Cut ties with a lot of people. Players like Moss, Ginn, Alex, Parys, Dixon, Trenton Robinson, MacBath, Ian Williams, Delanie Walker, Leonard Davis, Gooden, Akers,

We can't trade comp picks.
 

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So Dee Milliner, DJ Fluker and Eddie Lacy are officially entering the draft.

Just a note on Lacy, who I know some are big fans of around here (Chrispozz mainly comes to mind). I don't really have the in-depth numbers to support it, but I've seen suggestions that he was much more effective late in the year (UGA, ND games) when Alabama ran more "pro style" sets than he was earlier in the year when they dabbled with the pistol formation. I obviously can't speak to the plans this coaching staff has as far as the pistol, and whether or not they may change if Roman lands a HC job somewhere, but it's something to consider.
 

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Anyone interested in taking Denard Robinson in the mid-late rounds? He's being looked at as a WR and perhaps a bit at RB. Could be a Randall Cobb kind of guy. His injury history is certainly a concern, but if he's taken in say the 5th or so- could be worth the risk.
 

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Anyone interested in taking Denard Robinson in the mid-late rounds? He's being looked at as a WR and perhaps a bit at RB. Could be a Randall Cobb kind of guy. His injury history is certainly a concern, but if he's taken in say the 5th or so- could be worth the risk.

I wouldn't be opposed to it, assuming he proves he can catch leading up to the draft. I kind of like the idea of him in a Cobb-like role. Like you said, he has been banged up in the past. Part of that could be attributed to his 650+ carries the last 3 years, at least you would think? He certainly wouldn't touch the ball that often at the next level.
 

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Anyone interested in taking Denard Robinson in the mid-late rounds? He's being looked at as a WR and perhaps a bit at RB. Could be a Randall Cobb kind of guy. His injury history is certainly a concern, but if he's taken in say the 5th or so- could be worth the risk.

With so many picks, a 5th round on him wouldn't be a bad idea. He would be our emergency (4th string QB). I see him more as a Josh Cribbs type of guy. Not much of a threat for opposing teams at the WR or QB positions, but a guy that simply provides a little bit of sparks here and there when given an opportunity. A guy who could be our special teams ace for years to come. A 5th or 6th on him would be good enough for me.
 
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With so many picks, a 5th round on him wouldn't be a bad idea. He would be our emergency (4th string QB). I see him more as a Josh Cribbs type of guy. Not much at the WR or QB position, but a guy that simply provides a little bit of sparks here and there when given an opportunity. A guy who could be our special teams ace for years to come. A 5th or 6th on him would be good enough for me.

Cribbs would be a better comparison of his abilities. He's shifty and really good in space. Cobb is a more polished WR already. I'm sure Harbs has seen plenty of Robinson since he's a Michigan guy.
 

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With so many picks, a 5th round on him wouldn't be a bad idea. He would be our emergency (4th string QB). I see him more as a Josh Cribbs type of guy. Not much at the WR or QB position, but a guy that simply provides a little bit of sparks here and there when given an opportunity. A guy who could be our special teams ace for years to come. A 5th or 6th on him would be good enough for me.

That's fair. I haven't seen much of Cribbs the last year or two (actually, has anybody?), but I can see some similarities. Speed and dreads and stuff. But seriously, who knows what exactly he's capable of. He's supposed to play WR at the Senior Bowl, I believe. That should be helpful.
 

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Cribbs would be a better comparison of his abilities. He's shifty and really good in space. Cobb is a more polished WR already. I'm sure Harbs has seen plenty of Robinson since he's a Michigan guy.

Yeah I see him as a Cribbs clone. Cobb on the other hand is already polished and stronger - has more bulk to take on carries out of the backfield as if he were a RB. That idea of Robinson playing running back to me is not a good idea IMO. He's a receiver who can become of the elites as a KR/PR.
 

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Just a side note on Robinson. A few people, including Gil Brandt, like his potential at corner. I'm not sure I buy that, but it's an idea that some toss around.
 

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Glenn Bolich: Dri Archer will return for senior year at Kent St.

He needed to, in my opinion.
 

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DT Floyd jumps out during film study
January, 11, 2013 2:10PM ET
By Kevin Weidl

I initially put on the film of this season's Florida-Florida State game (won by the Gators 37-26) to get a look at intriguing Seminoles OT Menelik Watson -- more on him later -- but I just couldn't ignore Florida DT Sharrif Floyd.

I had seen bits and pieces of Floyd during the season, but his film against Florida State is one of the better games I've seen from any prospect during the draft process.

Floyd has a compact build (6-foot-3, 298 pounds) with a thick lower half, a strong anchor and explosive power in the upper body. He played defensive end earlier in his career but played tackle in 2012 and appears comfortable there.

Sharrif Floyd's ability to get to the ball has been on display throughout his career.

He showed a good first step against the Seminoles, both as a run defender and a pass-rusher. Floyd was consistently able to create penetration and disrupt plays in the backfield, and he showed his pass-rush skills in the first quarter when he beat a guard with a quick swim move to get pressure on Florida State QB EJ Manuel.

Floyd displayed quick hands to get into blockers and keep them off his frame, allowing him to control and shed while working down the line to get into plays. He also has the lateral agility and range to chase plays down from the back side.

Overall, Floyd had one solo tackle, one tackle for loss and one sack, but that doesn't tell the story of how disruptive he was from start to finish. He was around the ball all day, and Floyd looked like a first-rounder on that game tape.

His versatility is attractive, and expect his stock to solidify and perhaps even rise a bit as scouts dig into more of his 2012 performances.



Watson's intriguing story
As for the aforementioned Watson -- who has entered the draft as a junior -- his journey to Tallahassee was a long one.

Watson (6-6, 320) was raised in England and had a tough childhood but eventually made it to a basketball academy in Spain. From there, he earned a scholarship to Marist, where he played two years of basketball before quitting because he disliked losing. (The Red Foxes went 6-27 in his redshirt freshman year.)

He briefly toyed with the idea of becoming a heavyweight boxer, but Watson instead landed at Saddleback Community College in California with the idea of taking up football. He arrived at Saddleback in August 2011 having never put on pads before, but his development was astounding. Watson was a starter by the fourth game of the season.

The Florida State staff took notice after being tipped off by a friend of Watson and offered him a scholarship, and Watson started 12 games at right tackle for the Seminoles this season.

Watson's basketball background shows on the field. His natural feet and athleticism were on display on the first play of the Florida game, when he opened up and pulled easily down the line into space.

He is raw in terms of awareness and locating defenders and is a step late recognizing blitz and twists at times, but those things will improve with experience. Watson has the smooth feet to shuffle and mirror against pass-rushers, and his long arms help him ride defenders past the pocket.

I do have questions about his lower-body strength and ability to anchor in protection. He can be seen being lifted off his feet by speed-to-power moves at times against the Gators, and Floyd even threw him to the ground at one point. He was often rocked back into the pocket against Florida and also against Virginia Tech, when his subpar angles caused him to be beaten inside at times.

Scouts are sure to be intrigued with Watson's physical tools and potential. The fringe of Day 2 appears to be a starting point for his stock.



Florida LB Jenkins also stands out
Finally, Gators LB Jelani Jenkins jumped out when I watched the Gators-Seminoles film.

Jenkins is a little undersized (6-0, 230) and was swallowed up at times at the point of attack, but he plays a physical style and never backed down.

However, Jenkins is much better when playing in space in coverage. He is agile, has quick feet and moves well laterally. His instincts are solid. Jenkins was able to midpoint a flat/crossing route combination, baiting Manuel into throwing to the crossing route before flipping his hips and getting in position to make the interception.

Jenkins does come with some durability concerns, but he fits best at a weakside linebacker in a 4-3 scheme where he can be covered up and allowed to run. He could be a good find for a 4-3 team late in the third or fourth round.
 

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If you have that much ammunition to move up that high in the draft (in terms of trade) why not simply get a player like Star at that spot?!

Star will probably be a top 3 pick.

The highest I'd trade up for a DL in this draft would be in the early teens (combine pending of course; everything could change after that).

By the way, I'm not sure I'd rank any DL in this dratf over Chance Warmack. If he & Hankins (or Richardson) are on the board, I'm not sure I wouldn't rather take a Chance (pun intended) on a great interior OL. He'd have to start out as a C, but I think he'd be the best C in the NFL very quickly.

Imagine that OL. Staley, Iupati, Warmack, Boone, Davis. YIKES! Who could stop that?
 
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Star will probably be a top 3 pick.

The highest I'd trade up for a DL in this draft would be in the early teens (combine pending of course; everything could change after that).

By the way, I'm not sure I'd rank any DL in this dratf over Chance Warmack. If he & Hankins (or Richardson) are on the board, I'm not sure I wouldn't rather take a Chance (pun intended) on a great interior OL. He'd have to start out as a C, but I think he'd be the best C in the NFL very quickly.

Imagine that OL. Staley, Iupati, Warmack, Boone, Davis. YIKES! Who could stop that?

If Chance can play C at a reasonable level, our OL will be legendary(4 1s n a former 1st rd talent) LOL
 

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I don't know how many people were aware of it, but there's been alot of talk sincethe season ended how much Onterio McCalebb would continue to weigh in at during the pre-draft process. He was invited to the Casino Del Sol All-Star game and weighed in at 171 lbs. He was listed by Auburn at 173 lbs. The actual game is being played right now as I type this.
 

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Draft Bible:

Report: Texas defensive tackle Brandon Moore will declare for the 2013 NFL Draft. JUCO transfer started 5 of 12 games played this past year.
 

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Dan Hope:

OleMiss TE Jamal Mosley reportedly tore his ACL in first quarter of Casino del Sol game. Wasn't going to be drafted, but still unfortunate.
 

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I don't know how many people were aware of it, but there's been alot of talk sincethe season ended how much Onterio McCalebb would continue to weigh in at during the pre-draft process. He was invited to the Casino Del Sol All-Star game and weighed in at 171 lbs. He was listed by Auburn at 173 lbs. The actual game is being played right now as I type this.

Draft Bible:

California RB Isi Sofele weighed in at 5067/178, a lot smaller than 5'8/200 listed on school website
 
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