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Te'o struggles against Alabama O-line
January, 8, 2013 5:47PM ET
By Steve Muench
The images of Alabama's blowout win over Notre Dame in the BCS title game are still fresh, but until we see the coach-copy tape of the game it's important not to overreact one way or the other to the performances of the notable prospects in the game.
On the other hand, the telecast provides some insight into what scouts should be looking for when they examine that all-22 film of a group that includes five players who have first-round potential.
Here are notes from the national championship game that I will reference when watching the coach-copy tape and other tape on these players. Some underclassmen (noted with an asterisk) have said they will return to school, but they could change their minds and these notes will still be useful down the road if they do return to campus.
Chance Warmack's size and power make him an elite prospect.G Chance Warmack (Grade: 96; 6-foot2⅜ 325 pounds)
Just as he has done all season, Warmack continued to control defenders at the line of scrimmage and hold up in pass protection. His ability to cover up linebackers in space is also impressive. He did a good job climbing up to the second level and getting a body on Notre Dame ILB Manti Te'o midway through the first quarter and again midway through the second.
CB Dee Milliner* (94; 6-0¾, 197)
There's a lot to like about how physical Milliner was at the line of scrimmage against Fighting Irish TE Tyler Eifert, but he won't get away with that much contact at the next level. In addition, Milliner failed to turn and locate the ball on a controversial incompletion call with 11:21 left in the first quarter. However, he did a better job locating the ball when asked to turn and run with WR DaVaris Daniels early in the third, tipping the ball and allowing a teammate to come down with the interception.
OLB C.J. Mosley* (91; 6-2, 234)
Mosley intends to come back to school, but he carried a late-first round grade prior to the announcement and lived up to it in this game. He did a good job scraping down the line and filling as soon as he located the ball carrier, and showed above-average closing speed chasing mobile Irish QB Everett Golson in the second quarter. While RB/WR Theo Riddick beat Mosley on a fourth-quarter touchdown catch, Riddick is a tough matchup for any linebacker and the initial coverage appeared sound.
DT Jesse Williams (96; 6-3½, 320)
Williams made it tough to run inside and was an effective lead blocker when lined up in the backfield in goal-line situations. He didn't seem to have a game plan as a pass-rusher, though, and Alabama kept him fresh with a steady rotation. Williams, who hurt his knee against Georgia in the SEC championship game, sustained what appeared to be a lower-body injury in the fourth quarter.
OT D.J. Fluker* (84; 6-6, 335)
Fluker fought with Notre Dame DE Kapron Lewis-Moore throughout the night. Lewis-Moore won with quickness and hands initially, but Fluker stayed with it and showed better overall power. However, he appeared to have problems with speed off the edge midway through the second quarter.
C Barrett Jones (79; 6-5, 302)
Jones struggled with the size and power of Notre Dame NT Louis Nix at times, but turned in a consistent overall performance. His footwork was sound and he did an above-average job in terms of hand placement, though it appeared he could have been called for holding on a lot of plays.
In addition, Jones showed toughness playing though a Lisfranc injury in his left foot that will require surgery to fix. And on a side note, anyone who has played offensive line can appreciate him standing up to QB A.J. McCarron after a miscommunication between the two late in the game.
RB Eddie Lacy* (71; 5-10, 220)
Lacy's offensive line deserves a ton of credit for his 20-carry, 140-yard performance. Still, no player potentially helped himself more than Lacy. He missed some seams -- notably on the first play of the game -- but his vision and patience appeared above average. He also ran through arm tackles and flashed the ability to press the line of scrimmage before bouncing outside. While he dropped a pass he should have caught, Lacy hauled in two others, including a touchdown.
S Robert Lester (63; 6-1½ 215)
It's tough to tell a lot about defensive backs from television copy, but Lester appeared to show above-average route recognition and awareness when lined up over in the slot early in the second quarter. He also made a sound one-on-one tackle on Theo Riddick later in the quarter that may have prevented a long run.
TE Michael Williams (61; 6-6, 270)
Williams holds his own as a blocker against down linemen better than most tight ends. Size plays a role, but so does toughness. And even though Notre Dame bit on play-action and turned him loose on a first-quarter touchdown catch, Williams did a nice job catching the ball with his hands away from his frame.
ILB Manti Te'o (95; 6-1, 248)
There's no sugarcoating it: Te'o struggled in this game. For starters, he didn't show great instincts. He was late locating the ball and didn't recover in time to make the tackle on Lacy's first touchdown run. He also bit on play-action and was beaten on Williams' first-quarter touchdown catch. Finally, Te'o failed to wrap up as a tackler, and I counted at least three notable missed tackles in the first half.
DT Louis Nix III* (91; 6-3, 325)
Another potential late-first rounder who appears headed back to school, Nix could get off blockers quicker at times but has above-average upside as a two-gap nose tackle. He held his ground and he flashed the ability to control Barrett Jones at times. Nix left the field with an injury in the third quarter and appeared limited when he returned.
TE Tyler Eifert* (88; 6-6, 250)
Officials ruled Eifert did not come down with the aforementioned jump ball against Milliner, but he has shown good ball skills all season and consistently wins in those instances. He also showed excellent effort after a first-down catch with 6:08 left in the first quarter. Officials initially ruled a loose ball after the play a fumble, but that call was overturned on replay.
Eifert did drop a pass he should have caught late in the third quarter, but he worked hard before and after the catch. He did a decent job getting into position when blocking in space, but did have problems holding up in pass protection.
DE Kapron Lewis-Moore (74; 6-3⅝, 304)
Lewis-Moore left late in the first half with what is reportedly a serious leg injury, which combined with a knee injury that cost him the final six games of the 2011 season would hurt his stock. Still, he's an underrated player who showed good toughness at the point before sustaining the injury.
WR Theo Riddick (66; 5-10⅜, 197)
Riddick showed good burst when he found a seam early in the second quarter, and did a great job shaking Mosley on his touchdown catch. He simply didn't get much room to work as a runner or as a receiver over the middle.
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Te'o struggles against Alabama O-line
January, 8, 2013 5:47PM ET
By Steve Muench
The images of Alabama's blowout win over Notre Dame in the BCS title game are still fresh, but until we see the coach-copy tape of the game it's important not to overreact one way or the other to the performances of the notable prospects in the game.
On the other hand, the telecast provides some insight into what scouts should be looking for when they examine that all-22 film of a group that includes five players who have first-round potential.
Here are notes from the national championship game that I will reference when watching the coach-copy tape and other tape on these players. Some underclassmen (noted with an asterisk) have said they will return to school, but they could change their minds and these notes will still be useful down the road if they do return to campus.
Alabama
Chance Warmack's size and power make him an elite prospect.G Chance Warmack (Grade: 96; 6-foot2⅜ 325 pounds)
Just as he has done all season, Warmack continued to control defenders at the line of scrimmage and hold up in pass protection. His ability to cover up linebackers in space is also impressive. He did a good job climbing up to the second level and getting a body on Notre Dame ILB Manti Te'o midway through the first quarter and again midway through the second.
CB Dee Milliner* (94; 6-0¾, 197)
There's a lot to like about how physical Milliner was at the line of scrimmage against Fighting Irish TE Tyler Eifert, but he won't get away with that much contact at the next level. In addition, Milliner failed to turn and locate the ball on a controversial incompletion call with 11:21 left in the first quarter. However, he did a better job locating the ball when asked to turn and run with WR DaVaris Daniels early in the third, tipping the ball and allowing a teammate to come down with the interception.
OLB C.J. Mosley* (91; 6-2, 234)
Mosley intends to come back to school, but he carried a late-first round grade prior to the announcement and lived up to it in this game. He did a good job scraping down the line and filling as soon as he located the ball carrier, and showed above-average closing speed chasing mobile Irish QB Everett Golson in the second quarter. While RB/WR Theo Riddick beat Mosley on a fourth-quarter touchdown catch, Riddick is a tough matchup for any linebacker and the initial coverage appeared sound.
DT Jesse Williams (96; 6-3½, 320)
Williams made it tough to run inside and was an effective lead blocker when lined up in the backfield in goal-line situations. He didn't seem to have a game plan as a pass-rusher, though, and Alabama kept him fresh with a steady rotation. Williams, who hurt his knee against Georgia in the SEC championship game, sustained what appeared to be a lower-body injury in the fourth quarter.
OT D.J. Fluker* (84; 6-6, 335)
Fluker fought with Notre Dame DE Kapron Lewis-Moore throughout the night. Lewis-Moore won with quickness and hands initially, but Fluker stayed with it and showed better overall power. However, he appeared to have problems with speed off the edge midway through the second quarter.
C Barrett Jones (79; 6-5, 302)
Jones struggled with the size and power of Notre Dame NT Louis Nix at times, but turned in a consistent overall performance. His footwork was sound and he did an above-average job in terms of hand placement, though it appeared he could have been called for holding on a lot of plays.
In addition, Jones showed toughness playing though a Lisfranc injury in his left foot that will require surgery to fix. And on a side note, anyone who has played offensive line can appreciate him standing up to QB A.J. McCarron after a miscommunication between the two late in the game.
RB Eddie Lacy* (71; 5-10, 220)
Lacy's offensive line deserves a ton of credit for his 20-carry, 140-yard performance. Still, no player potentially helped himself more than Lacy. He missed some seams -- notably on the first play of the game -- but his vision and patience appeared above average. He also ran through arm tackles and flashed the ability to press the line of scrimmage before bouncing outside. While he dropped a pass he should have caught, Lacy hauled in two others, including a touchdown.
S Robert Lester (63; 6-1½ 215)
It's tough to tell a lot about defensive backs from television copy, but Lester appeared to show above-average route recognition and awareness when lined up over in the slot early in the second quarter. He also made a sound one-on-one tackle on Theo Riddick later in the quarter that may have prevented a long run.
TE Michael Williams (61; 6-6, 270)
Williams holds his own as a blocker against down linemen better than most tight ends. Size plays a role, but so does toughness. And even though Notre Dame bit on play-action and turned him loose on a first-quarter touchdown catch, Williams did a nice job catching the ball with his hands away from his frame.
Notre Dame
ILB Manti Te'o (95; 6-1, 248)
There's no sugarcoating it: Te'o struggled in this game. For starters, he didn't show great instincts. He was late locating the ball and didn't recover in time to make the tackle on Lacy's first touchdown run. He also bit on play-action and was beaten on Williams' first-quarter touchdown catch. Finally, Te'o failed to wrap up as a tackler, and I counted at least three notable missed tackles in the first half.
DT Louis Nix III* (91; 6-3, 325)
Another potential late-first rounder who appears headed back to school, Nix could get off blockers quicker at times but has above-average upside as a two-gap nose tackle. He held his ground and he flashed the ability to control Barrett Jones at times. Nix left the field with an injury in the third quarter and appeared limited when he returned.
TE Tyler Eifert* (88; 6-6, 250)
Officials ruled Eifert did not come down with the aforementioned jump ball against Milliner, but he has shown good ball skills all season and consistently wins in those instances. He also showed excellent effort after a first-down catch with 6:08 left in the first quarter. Officials initially ruled a loose ball after the play a fumble, but that call was overturned on replay.
Eifert did drop a pass he should have caught late in the third quarter, but he worked hard before and after the catch. He did a decent job getting into position when blocking in space, but did have problems holding up in pass protection.
DE Kapron Lewis-Moore (74; 6-3⅝, 304)
Lewis-Moore left late in the first half with what is reportedly a serious leg injury, which combined with a knee injury that cost him the final six games of the 2011 season would hurt his stock. Still, he's an underrated player who showed good toughness at the point before sustaining the injury.
WR Theo Riddick (66; 5-10⅜, 197)
Riddick showed good burst when he found a seam early in the second quarter, and did a great job shaking Mosley on his touchdown catch. He simply didn't get much room to work as a runner or as a receiver over the middle.
Steve Muench
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Alabama TE Michael Williams
Alabama LB Nico Johnson
Alabama S Robert Lester
Alabama LS Carson Tinker
Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson
Arkansas WR Cobi Hamilton
Auburn TE Philip Lutzenkirchen
Baylor WR Terrance Williams
Boise State CB Jamar Taylor
Brigham Young DE Ezekiah Ansah
California C Brian Schwenke
California CB Marc Anthony
Central Michigan OT Eric Fisher
Cincinnati TE Travis Kelce
Clemson RB Andre Ellington
Clemson DE Malliciah Goodman
Colorado TE Nick Kasa
Connecticut LB Trevardo Williams
Connecticut CB Dwayne Gratz
Connecticut CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Cornell OG J.C. Tretter
Elon WR Aaron Mellette
Florida RB Mike Gillislee
Florida OT Xavier Nixon
Florida LB Jonathan Bostic
Florida International SS Johnathan Cyprien
Florida State QB EJ Manuel
Florida State DT Everett Dawkins
Florida State K Dustin Hopkins
Fresno State SS Phillip Thomas
Georgia WR Tavarres King
Georgia DT John Jenkins
Georgia CB Sanders Commings
Georgia S Bacarri Rambo
Georgia S Shawn Williams
Georgia Southern S J.J. Wilcox
Harvard FB Kyle Juszczyk
Hawaii LS Luke Ingram
Illinois OG Hugh Thornton
Illinois DE Michael Buchanan
Kansas State WR Chris Harper
Kansas State LB Arthur Brown Jr.
Kent State OT Brian Winters
Kentucky OG Larry Warford
Louisiana State DE Lavar Edwards
Louisiana Tech WR Quinton Patton
Louisiana Tech P Ryan Allen
Marshall WR Aaron Dobson
Miami (OH) QB Zac Dysert
Michigan QB Denard Robinson (invited as WR; expected to see time at RB as well)
Michigan State CB Johnny Adams
Mississippi State CB Johnthan Banks
Missouri OLB Zaviar Gooden
Missouri Southern State DT Brandon Williams
North Carolina DT Sylvester Williams
North Carolina LB Kevin Reddick
North Carolina State QB Mike Glennon
Notre Dame C Braxston Cave
Ohio State OT Reid Fragel
Ohio State DE/LB John Simon
Oklahoma QB Landry Jones
Oklahoma OT Lane Johnson
Oklahoma State K Quinn Sharp
Oregon RB Kenjon Barner
Oregon OG Kyle Long
Oregon LB Kiko Alonso
Oregon State WR Markus Wheaton
Oregon State CB Jordan Poyer
Penn State DT Jordan Hill
Purdue DT Kawann Short
Rice WR Vance McDonald
Rutgers LB Khaseem Greene
San Diego State CB Leon McFadden
San Jose State TE Ryan Otten
San Jose State OG Dave Quessenberry
SMU (Southern Methodist) DE Margus Hunt
South Carolina S DJ Swearinger
Southeastern Louisiana CB Robert Alford
Southern California C Khaled Holmes
Southern California S TJ McDonald
Southern Mississippi LB Jamie Collins
South Florida DT Corey Grissom
Stanford RB Stepfan Taylor
Stanford OLB Chase Thomas
Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib
Tennessee TE Mychal Rivera
Tennessee OT Dallas Thomas
Texas WR Marquise Goodwin
Texas DE Alex Okafor
Texas S Kenny Vaccaro
Texas A&M WR Ryan Swope
Texas A&M LB Sean Porter
UCLA RB Johnathan Franklin
UCLA DE Datone Jones
UCLA P Jeff Locke
Utah State CB Will Davis
Virginia LT Oday Aboushi
Wake Forest FB Tommy Bohanon
Washington CB Desmond Trufant
West Virginia WR Tavon Austin
West Virginia C Joe Madsen
William & Mary CB B.W. Webb
Wisconsin RB Montee Ball
Wisconsin OT Rick Wagner
Alabama TE Michael Williams
Alabama LB Nico Johnson
Alabama S Robert Lester
Alabama LS Carson Tinker
Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson
Arkansas WR Cobi Hamilton
Auburn TE Philip Lutzenkirchen
Baylor WR Terrance Williams
Boise State CB Jamar Taylor
Brigham Young DE Ezekiah Ansah
California C Brian Schwenke
California CB Marc Anthony
Central Michigan OT Eric Fisher
Cincinnati TE Travis Kelce
Clemson RB Andre Ellington
Clemson DE Malliciah Goodman
Colorado TE Nick Kasa
Connecticut LB Trevardo Williams
Connecticut CB Dwayne Gratz
Connecticut CB Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Cornell OG J.C. Tretter
Elon WR Aaron Mellette
Florida RB Mike Gillislee
Florida OT Xavier Nixon
Florida LB Jonathan Bostic
Florida International SS Johnathan Cyprien
Florida State QB EJ Manuel
Florida State DT Everett Dawkins
Florida State K Dustin Hopkins
Fresno State SS Phillip Thomas
Georgia WR Tavarres King
Georgia DT John Jenkins
Georgia CB Sanders Commings
Georgia S Bacarri Rambo
Georgia S Shawn Williams
Georgia Southern S J.J. Wilcox
Harvard FB Kyle Juszczyk
Hawaii LS Luke Ingram
Illinois OG Hugh Thornton
Illinois DE Michael Buchanan
Kansas State WR Chris Harper
Kansas State LB Arthur Brown Jr.
Kent State OT Brian Winters
Kentucky OG Larry Warford
Louisiana State DE Lavar Edwards
Louisiana Tech WR Quinton Patton
Louisiana Tech P Ryan Allen
Marshall WR Aaron Dobson
Miami (OH) QB Zac Dysert
Michigan QB Denard Robinson (invited as WR; expected to see time at RB as well)
Michigan State CB Johnny Adams
Mississippi State CB Johnthan Banks
Missouri OLB Zaviar Gooden
Missouri Southern State DT Brandon Williams
North Carolina DT Sylvester Williams
North Carolina LB Kevin Reddick
North Carolina State QB Mike Glennon
Notre Dame C Braxston Cave
Ohio State OT Reid Fragel
Ohio State DE/LB John Simon
Oklahoma QB Landry Jones
Oklahoma OT Lane Johnson
Oklahoma State K Quinn Sharp
Oregon RB Kenjon Barner
Oregon OG Kyle Long
Oregon LB Kiko Alonso
Oregon State WR Markus Wheaton
Oregon State CB Jordan Poyer
Penn State DT Jordan Hill
Purdue DT Kawann Short
Rice WR Vance McDonald
Rutgers LB Khaseem Greene
San Diego State CB Leon McFadden
San Jose State TE Ryan Otten
San Jose State OG Dave Quessenberry
SMU (Southern Methodist) DE Margus Hunt
South Carolina S DJ Swearinger
Southeastern Louisiana CB Robert Alford
Southern California C Khaled Holmes
Southern California S TJ McDonald
Southern Mississippi LB Jamie Collins
South Florida DT Corey Grissom
Stanford RB Stepfan Taylor
Stanford OLB Chase Thomas
Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib
Tennessee TE Mychal Rivera
Tennessee OT Dallas Thomas
Texas WR Marquise Goodwin
Texas DE Alex Okafor
Texas S Kenny Vaccaro
Texas A&M WR Ryan Swope
Texas A&M LB Sean Porter
UCLA RB Johnathan Franklin
UCLA DE Datone Jones
UCLA P Jeff Locke
Utah State CB Will Davis
Virginia LT Oday Aboushi
Wake Forest FB Tommy Bohanon
Washington CB Desmond Trufant
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Klein's limitations show at Shrine practice
January, 14, 2013 8:58PM ET
By Steve Muench
PETERSBURG, Fla. -- Practice kicked off Monday ahead of the annual East-West Shrine game, and there is no shortage of intriguing prospects to keep an eye on.
The practice tempo was high for both the East and West teams, though the East team did have on shoulder pads with their shorts and helmets and had the more physical of the workouts.
East team QB Collin Klein is perhaps the biggest name in attendance this week, and he immediately showed some of the intangibles you expect from a Heisman Trophy finalist. Klein was involved in seemingly every facet of practice without being over the top, interacting with teammates and coaches, listening in on every huddle and generally encouraging everyone.
Collin Klein's inability to drive the ball downfield showed up during Monday's practice.
Klein got off to a strong start with some good short-to-intermediate throws, but he struggled as the day went on. He labored to drive the ball downfield, needing to summon everything he had to put zip on vertical passes, and Klein also made some questionable decisions.
He threw one interception on which Auburn WR Emory Blake appeared to fall down, but the play was covered anyway and the ball should not have been thrown. A great play was required of Florida State WR Rodney Smith on another pass thrown into double coverage that should have been broken up or intercepted.
The ball does not explode out of Klein's hand, and after seeing a ball slip out of his hand during individual drills, I also wonder just how big his hands are.
It was a very average day for Klein, but overall about what you'd anticipate from a prospect likely to be a later-round pick and struggle to make it as a quarterback in the NFL.
Southeastern Louisiana QB Nathan Stanley was a surprise standout on Monday, showing an aggressive nature when throwing downfield. Many quarterbacks tend to look for checkdowns and shorter passes early in all-star weeks as they build a rapport with receivers, but Stanley looked to drive the ball when given the opportunity.
He was also accurate and showed good zip on underneath passes, and he looked the part when leading the huddle. Overall, Stanley had perhaps the best day of any quarterback in attendance.
Things didn't go so well for Louisiana Tech QB Cameron Colby, who was a little off all day. Colby showed some first-day jitters, was behind on some throws and never seemed to find a rhythm with his receivers. It wasn't an impressive showing, but it's nothing Colby can't bounce back from.
Arizona QB Mat Scott showed some interesting flashes, with a quick release and the ability to get the ball out in a hurry. Scott does need to learn to control the pace of his underneath throws, though, and his ball placement was off early on.
Scott forced receivers to make some tough catches, but to his credit he took coaching well midway through the session and did a better job keeping the ball up from that point on.
Meanwhile, Texas Tech QB Seth Doege made some nice throws but struggled more than the other quarterbacks on timing routes. Doege had a hard time with quick outs and other similar routes, struggling to adjust to where his receivers would be and where to put the ball for them. He had the slowest start of the quarterbacks, but Doege certainly didn't bury himself.
Finally, Western Michigan's Alex Carder looks the part with his big frame and mobility, but his downfield touch was inconsistent over the course of the day.
However, he did show good patience on an out/slant combo route at one point, seeing that the out route was covered and waiting for the slant to clear before putting the ball where the receiver could produce after the catch.
Carder doesn't have a cannon arm, but he had a good day overall and built a little momentum.
• Virginia Tech WR Marcus Davis had as good a showing as anyone could hope for on Day 1. Davis has an NFL build and made plays downfield with his speed, and also used his speed to drive corners off the line and create separation on comeback routes.
I also didn't see any drops from Davis, who consistently plucked the ball away from his frame. He also took coaching well, which is a plus for a player labeled as a bit of an underachiever in college.
• Fellow Hokies WR Corey Fuller was not as much of a downfield presence as Davis, but Fuller did run good routes and did not have a dropped pass despite fighting the ball a bit during the workout.
• Arizona WR Dan Buckner and FSU's Smith are similar receivers in that they have bigger frames and adequate straight-line speed to make plays down the field. However, Smith looks like the quicker, more fluid athlete, and appears slightly better in terms of creating separation against defensive backs.
• Georgia Tech CB Rod Sweeting did a nice job staying with Blake downfield at one point, running with him and maintaining perfect position. However, Sweeting let the ball go right though his hands when it arrived. Blake didn't make the play, either, but you'd like to see Sweeting show the ball skills to finish and at least break up the pass there.
As for Blake, he had some issues early on with a drop and a double-catch during individual drills, but he turned it on midway through practice and was much more in the flow. Blake's rocky start led to a solid finish.
• N.C. State S Earl Wolff made the play on the aforementioned interception of Klein, and while the ball was served up to him Wolff was in good position and showed solid ball skills bringing in the pick. He extended his arms well and snatched the ball out of the air, which scouts like to see from a defensive back.
• There are some bigger cornerbacks at this year's Shrine Game, and Illinois' Terry Hawthorne stood out for reasons good and bad on Monday. Hawthorne looked very good when playing off the line and breaking on balls thrown in front of him, but he was not as strong when forced to turn and run with receivers and was beaten over the top for a deep pass at one point.
• UCLA TE Joseph Fauria is an interesting prospect. Fauria stands out because of his size (6-foot-7, 255 pounds), but he is thin in the lower half and not built to be an effective inline blocker. However, he showed on a diving catch on a flag route why some teams could be interested in him as a pass-catching tight end who can create some mismatches with his big frame.
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Klein's limitations show at Shrine practice
January, 14, 2013 8:58PM ET
By Steve Muench
PETERSBURG, Fla. -- Practice kicked off Monday ahead of the annual East-West Shrine game, and there is no shortage of intriguing prospects to keep an eye on.
The practice tempo was high for both the East and West teams, though the East team did have on shoulder pads with their shorts and helmets and had the more physical of the workouts.
East team QB Collin Klein is perhaps the biggest name in attendance this week, and he immediately showed some of the intangibles you expect from a Heisman Trophy finalist. Klein was involved in seemingly every facet of practice without being over the top, interacting with teammates and coaches, listening in on every huddle and generally encouraging everyone.
Collin Klein's inability to drive the ball downfield showed up during Monday's practice.
Klein got off to a strong start with some good short-to-intermediate throws, but he struggled as the day went on. He labored to drive the ball downfield, needing to summon everything he had to put zip on vertical passes, and Klein also made some questionable decisions.
He threw one interception on which Auburn WR Emory Blake appeared to fall down, but the play was covered anyway and the ball should not have been thrown. A great play was required of Florida State WR Rodney Smith on another pass thrown into double coverage that should have been broken up or intercepted.
The ball does not explode out of Klein's hand, and after seeing a ball slip out of his hand during individual drills, I also wonder just how big his hands are.
It was a very average day for Klein, but overall about what you'd anticipate from a prospect likely to be a later-round pick and struggle to make it as a quarterback in the NFL.
More East QBs
Southeastern Louisiana QB Nathan Stanley was a surprise standout on Monday, showing an aggressive nature when throwing downfield. Many quarterbacks tend to look for checkdowns and shorter passes early in all-star weeks as they build a rapport with receivers, but Stanley looked to drive the ball when given the opportunity.
He was also accurate and showed good zip on underneath passes, and he looked the part when leading the huddle. Overall, Stanley had perhaps the best day of any quarterback in attendance.
Things didn't go so well for Louisiana Tech QB Cameron Colby, who was a little off all day. Colby showed some first-day jitters, was behind on some throws and never seemed to find a rhythm with his receivers. It wasn't an impressive showing, but it's nothing Colby can't bounce back from.
Arizona's Scott leads West QBs
Arizona QB Mat Scott showed some interesting flashes, with a quick release and the ability to get the ball out in a hurry. Scott does need to learn to control the pace of his underneath throws, though, and his ball placement was off early on.
Scott forced receivers to make some tough catches, but to his credit he took coaching well midway through the session and did a better job keeping the ball up from that point on.
Meanwhile, Texas Tech QB Seth Doege made some nice throws but struggled more than the other quarterbacks on timing routes. Doege had a hard time with quick outs and other similar routes, struggling to adjust to where his receivers would be and where to put the ball for them. He had the slowest start of the quarterbacks, but Doege certainly didn't bury himself.
Finally, Western Michigan's Alex Carder looks the part with his big frame and mobility, but his downfield touch was inconsistent over the course of the day.
However, he did show good patience on an out/slant combo route at one point, seeing that the out route was covered and waiting for the slant to clear before putting the ball where the receiver could produce after the catch.
Carder doesn't have a cannon arm, but he had a good day overall and built a little momentum.
WR/DB notebook
• Virginia Tech WR Marcus Davis had as good a showing as anyone could hope for on Day 1. Davis has an NFL build and made plays downfield with his speed, and also used his speed to drive corners off the line and create separation on comeback routes.
I also didn't see any drops from Davis, who consistently plucked the ball away from his frame. He also took coaching well, which is a plus for a player labeled as a bit of an underachiever in college.
• Fellow Hokies WR Corey Fuller was not as much of a downfield presence as Davis, but Fuller did run good routes and did not have a dropped pass despite fighting the ball a bit during the workout.
• Arizona WR Dan Buckner and FSU's Smith are similar receivers in that they have bigger frames and adequate straight-line speed to make plays down the field. However, Smith looks like the quicker, more fluid athlete, and appears slightly better in terms of creating separation against defensive backs.
• Georgia Tech CB Rod Sweeting did a nice job staying with Blake downfield at one point, running with him and maintaining perfect position. However, Sweeting let the ball go right though his hands when it arrived. Blake didn't make the play, either, but you'd like to see Sweeting show the ball skills to finish and at least break up the pass there.
As for Blake, he had some issues early on with a drop and a double-catch during individual drills, but he turned it on midway through practice and was much more in the flow. Blake's rocky start led to a solid finish.
• N.C. State S Earl Wolff made the play on the aforementioned interception of Klein, and while the ball was served up to him Wolff was in good position and showed solid ball skills bringing in the pick. He extended his arms well and snatched the ball out of the air, which scouts like to see from a defensive back.
• There are some bigger cornerbacks at this year's Shrine Game, and Illinois' Terry Hawthorne stood out for reasons good and bad on Monday. Hawthorne looked very good when playing off the line and breaking on balls thrown in front of him, but he was not as strong when forced to turn and run with receivers and was beaten over the top for a deep pass at one point.
• UCLA TE Joseph Fauria is an interesting prospect. Fauria stands out because of his size (6-foot-7, 255 pounds), but he is thin in the lower half and not built to be an effective inline blocker. However, he showed on a diving catch on a flag route why some teams could be interested in him as a pass-catching tight end who can create some mismatches with his big frame.
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I didn't know Lewan opted to return back to school. How could I have missed that news when I follow this thread on a daily basis?!
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East/West Shrine Practice Report- East Squad:
Ray Graham/RB/Pittsburgh: Looked very quick and elusive. Shed the knee brace.
Ray Graham/RB/Pittsburgh: Looked very quick and elusive. Shed the knee brace.
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Damn, they have him going at #8. Well I guess our wish of landing him is gone down the drain Ray. Good news is, he's not playing against us in the NFC West.
In that scenario, I would trade up for Ansah if he lasted that long. Maybe Austin as well depending on the circumstances.
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Matt Miller:
Scouting NFL left tackles all week. Branden Albert #Chiefs comes in ranked at No. 14. Luke Joeckel is my top LT prospect in 10 years.
Scouting NFL left tackles all week. Branden Albert #Chiefs comes in ranked at No. 14. Luke Joeckel is my top LT prospect in 10 years.
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Not totally convinced he's the #1 we need to stretch the field and demand respect from the elite corners in the NFC west. Great heads, good speed, average size, great route runner, etc. Definitely a better prospect than AJ Jenkins was, but I'm not convinced he is a legit first round prospect that a team must draft in order to get that dynamic duo we need on our team. I definitely like him better than Justin Hunter though.
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Damond Talbot:
I heard that in the past 2 days, Isiah Wiley has been very impressive the CB from Belhaven that transferred from USC is doing great #Raycom
William Buford of Tuskegee has been holding his own in practices, and Vernon Kearney of Lane has been ballin out in practice
You need to keep an eye on both Charles James and Vernon Kearney on the Stars team, they are two very confident corners, turning heads
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Eric Galko:
Marcus Davis. Trouble tracking ball deep, breaking well on inside routes. Flashing, but struggling.
I heard that in the past 2 days, Isiah Wiley has been very impressive the CB from Belhaven that transferred from USC is doing great #Raycom
William Buford of Tuskegee has been holding his own in practices, and Vernon Kearney of Lane has been ballin out in practice
You need to keep an eye on both Charles James and Vernon Kearney on the Stars team, they are two very confident corners, turning heads
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Eric Galko:
Marcus Davis. Trouble tracking ball deep, breaking well on inside routes. Flashing, but struggling.
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Joe Schad:
Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas will announce his decision to stay in school or apply for NFL Draft on @CFBLIVE at approx. 3:40 p.m. ET today
Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas will announce his decision to stay in school or apply for NFL Draft on @CFBLIVE at approx. 3:40 p.m. ET today
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As a late round pick, I'd take a chance on him and develop him to be a TE. We wouldn't see results until 2015 at the earliest, but I think it would be worth it.
