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So basically... other countries are going to fuck up the planet any way, so why should we give a crap.

He's totally wrong about that too! Poor thing or as they say in some parts of the south, "bless his heart!":D
 

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Actually, I don't want to bet anybody... I actually find it stupid. We all have the right to post here as long as the Hammer welcomes us. Just would like to all support a president who was elected while in office. Don't like him,,, vote him out.... but stop with the BS and the unfair treatment... and lies,,, and accusations,,, and blah blah blah. How did Rodney once put it so elegantly,,, best quote ever,,, "Can't we all just get along."
 

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wrong question to ask , ask the right one

now when i say protect the planet i say dont litter , responsibly deal with waste

now if you are telling me that BS climate change is man made i will laugh . its a hoax

Here's an idea.. how about we take all of those scared assed folks who don't believe in science and are afraid of what someone is telling them about the southern border and move them to Mexico!, There two problems solved with one answer.
 

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He's totally wrong about that too! Poor thing or as they say in some parts of the south, "bless his heart!":D


Funny part is, half the country is in prime territory for Solar or Wind power on the individual level. Which would make a pretty good dent in the level of fossil fuels we currently use to power our society.
 

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It really is insane the idiocy on this thread,,, with all do respect. So Trump gets his info from Hannity who is puppeteering to Trump who actually is the MSM we keep hearing about. Fossil fuels are miles behind solar windmills and oceanic currents. Grant it they are an excellent source of energy but they aren't powering a plane, a ship or even a fucking car. It's funny, Trump lost a a vote today when 47 democrats voted against him. Do you even care had it been Obama who wanted that wall money it would have been 47 votes in favor. Didn't think so. Trump is gonna get the money,,, just face facts. The SC will rule in his favor and secretly you all will be happy a wall is being built to keep out the millions of un-named citizens but will still always be happy Tump had a defeat today. Because that's who you are. You're no better than the hypocrites you bow down too

 

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The southern border wall. Until it affects you who really gives a shit. Great slogan. Heres the deal... it won't affect you or probably your kids but soon half of south america will walk into our country... the rippling affect will be staggering.... but will be dead so who cares. Same with fossils fuels and the false report that it's damaging are climate. Ive been hearing since I was wee years old that theres a hole growing in the ozone and soon,,, very soon,,, weill all be doomed. Dudes.. I really don't give a fuck about a thousand or two years out.,,,, sorry... call me a ruthless gangster,,, just dont care.
 

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OK, then let's play a bit harder since you want it straight, no chaser. Your dumb assed question was answered and not using some hypothetical that had a non starter as it's premise. (set us back 200 years, remember?) Now as for you second dumb assed question. India and the Chinese are already well ahead of the U.S in alternative considerations. So much for your "moot gestures" huh? I tried to play nice, but you didn't even bother to do a quick search before you posted your BS!

China is crushing the U.S. in renewable energy - money.cnn.com
https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/18/technology/china-us-clean-energy...

Why India's renewable energy revolution is racing ahead
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/15/india...
Yeah, being ahead of us in renewable energy is good and all but they still cause more environmental damage than us, and that's not going to change anytime soon, if ever.
 

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Yeah, being ahead of us in renewable energy is good and all but they still cause more environmental damage than us, and that's not going to change anytime soon, if ever.

Changing your original argument much? Now if you want me to play nice, I will, if not I'll just continue to smack your ass around with facts! Your choice!
 

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He's totally wrong about that too! Poor thing or as they say in some parts of the south, "bless his heart!":D
You didn't disprove anything. The stone cold fact is, even if America magically perfectly put the Green Deal into effect tomorrow, it wouldn't make a difference to the planets health, but it would set us back two hundred years.
 

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OK, then let's play a bit harder since you want it straight, no chaser. Your dumb assed question was answered and not using some hypothetical that had a non starter as it's premise. (set us back 200 years, remember?) Now as for you second dumb assed question. India and the Chinese are already well ahead of the U.S in alternative considerations. So much for your "moot gestures" huh? I tried to play nice, but you didn't even bother to do a quick search before you posted your BS!

China is crushing the U.S. in renewable energy - money.cnn.com
https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/18/technology/china-us-clean-energy...

Why India's renewable energy revolution is racing ahead
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/15/india...
Let me guess,,, a site that favors your opinion. Got cha.
 

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Changing your original argument much? Now if you want me to play nice, I will, if not I'll just continue to smack your ass around with facts! Your choice!
Again, you've yet to do so. China and India, and the rest of the world aren't going to give up their way of life because leftsist here are indoctrinated.
 

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No, we shouldn't not give a crap....but neither should we cripple our country, economy, way and quality of life in a globally destabilizing power shift all for some ultimately futile gesture based on a theory that roughly only half the worlds scientists even believe in, and even less still that do believe in it, feel said plan would be effective even if perfectly implemented.

Renewable energy is a multi-trillion industry waiting to happen, if that's destroying the country, then we'd better just fall behind the rest of the world instead of being what we once were...world leaders!
 

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Renewable energy is a multi-trillion industry waiting to happen, if that's destroying the country, then we'd better just fall behind the rest of the world instead of being what we once were...world leaders!
No one is arguing against investing in and perusing renewable energy. Strawman much?
 

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Let me guess,,, a site that favors your opinion. Got cha.

You once attempted to bet me then thought better of it, so I'll challenge you. Find ANY reputable reports that disputes the fact that both China and India aren't ahead of the U.S. in renewable development and I'll take a week off of the hoop and If not, you take that week off. Deal?

(We get to talk about and agree on which week )
 
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No one is arguing against investing in and perusing renewable energy. Strawman much?

Actually you did when you wrote that it will "set us back 200 years" or don't you remember what you wrote?
 

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Actually you did when you wrote that it will "set us back 200 years" or don't you remember what you wrote?
Sigh. If we completely removed fossil fuels tomorrow it WOULD set us back 200 years. It would bring our country to a grinding halt, and vastly reduce the amount of food we could produce. That does not somehow mean "we shouldn't invest in renewable energy".
 

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Again, you've yet to do so. China and India, and the rest of the world aren't going to give up their way of life because leftsist here are indoctrinated.

Define "leftist"
 

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Actually you did when you wrote that it will "set us back 200 years" or don't you remember what you wrote?


renewable energy, more efficient cars, planes and other forms of transportation always will have one major enemy in this country.

Profits.

The power company doesnt get upset when three houses out of 3000 switch to solar. But when builders started talking about green, off grid housing, they got their panties in a major wedgie.
 

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Sigh. If we completely removed fossil fuels tomorrow it WOULD set us back 200 years. It would bring our country to a grinding halt, and vastly reduce the amount of food we could produce. That does not somehow mean "we shouldn't invest in renewable energy".

Ready to get smacked around again?

That's not how the world and development works. Replacing everything tomorrow is a weak assed argument in that it presents a premise that isn't factually based. In effect you can't replace it all tomorrow, it will take years, therefore there NOTHING that sets us back 200 years. Gee, fucking you up with your own words is kinda fun, want to keep going?
 
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