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Hit On Flacco last night

Dirty or Not

  • Dirty

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  • No

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  • Potato Salad

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Myles

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It was aggressive. Boarder-line dirty.

I hate the QB slide rule. I realize the NFL is trying to protect the QB, but if you cross the line of scrimmage, you should be fair game. It's "tackle" football.

Either way, that should be a personal foul and a fine regardless because it was a hit to the head. If it turns into a suspension, it will be because he is a QB.
 

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Meh, you go over the top, instead of into his head. He was going for the head shot and he succeeded.

"You're taught when a quarterback slides, you want to aim for the head because when he [does] slide, your trajectory is going to be going over where his head was at the initial play," said Ravens' C.J. Mosley. (Kevin Richardson / Baltimore Sun video)"
 

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It was aggressive. Boarder-line dirty.

I hate the QB slide rule. I realize the NFL is trying to protect the QB, but if you cross the line of scrimmage, you should be fair game. It's "tackle" football.

Either way, that should be a personal foul and a fine regardless because it was a hit to the head. If it turns into a suspension, it will be because he is a QB.

It is not a foul because he hit him - Flacco was too late sliding.
It is a foul because he hit the QB in the head. Any time you hit the QB in the head it ends up a foul.....
 

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It was dirty because you expect him to slide at that point and he slid. Flacco did the expected thing even if he did it a little late and the defender went all out 'physical' on the play.
 

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Yeah - I was horrified when I first saw it. It's hard to really blame Kiko if he hadn't been aiming for the head. To me, this is what the NFL is trying to get rid of, and rightfully so.

Kudos to the chap you took out Kiko immediately. That's how you earn respect in the locker room.
 

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It is not a foul because he hit him - Flacco was too late sliding.
It is a foul because he hit the QB in the head. Any time you hit the QB in the head it ends up a foul.....
That's pretty much what I said.

However, once the QB becomes a runner he is fair game unless he slides. It doesn't matter what position, if you hit a player in the head like that, you are drawing a flag.
 

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First off, to think you can process what was going on at that speed and let up is making you all look like unknowing keyboard quarterbacks. And if you watch it in slow motion, his ass has not even touched grass when he gets drilled. So in the split second between starting the slide and getting hit, Kiko should have let up?

No way, your brain can;t get a signal to your body, which is already in motion, that fast.

Played sports much?
Where do you think the phrase "the game has slowed down for him" comes from?
Because elite athletes are processing the information and reacting to it faster than those on the couch can comprehend.
Mixed martial artists blocking punches before they are thrown, home run sluggers adjusting their swing on a 100 mph fastball, dirty linebackers taking out qb's.
Your brain can get the signal to your body at the speed of electricity.


Some of us just have a few more short circuits than others.
 

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It was dirty because you expect him to slide at that point and he slid. Flacco did the expected thing even if he did it a little late and the defender went all out 'physical' on the play.
So I have seen QB's pull the old fake slide and gain an extra few yards because the defender assumed he would slide. If a QB does that, should that be a foul?
 

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Kiko got what he deserved, a flag and retaliation.

Flacco was going for the first down and paid for it.

I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that QB's aren't football players and should deserve special treatment like the NFL does.
 

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So I have seen QB's pull the old fake slide and gain an extra few yards because the defender assumed he would slide. If a QB does that, should that be a foul?
I think so but the NFL definitely promotes any double standard that helps the offense.
 

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It was a very aggressive hit.

But Flacco was being 'aggressive' too, he was trying to get his first down, and Alonzo was trying to stop that.

Flacco could have slid earlier, but he waited as long as possible before doing it, because he wanted his first down. He was being a competitor. Alonzo was being one, too. It was his job to prevent that first down. Not play patty cake.

It's one thing to give QB's a bubble in the pocket, but many of these slide hits would end if they didn't have that special protection and were instead treated exactly like a running back.

Then the QB's would think twice before running, or drop a LOT earlier.
 

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I missed it live but when i saw the 137 replays during half time, here's what I concluded: I don't think it was "dirty." Aggressive, yes, but Flacco did a half-assed job of sliding. Either go into the hook-slide, or stand up and take the hit.

He went for the first down...nobody on defense is supposed to try and stop him?

If the same thing had happened to Cam Newton, everybody would be bitching that Cam is a pussy.
 

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I missed it live but when i saw the 137 replays during half time, here's what I concluded: I don't think it was "dirty." Aggressive, yes, but Flacco did a half-assed job of sliding. Either go into the hook-slide, or stand up and take the hit.

He went for the first down...nobody on defense is supposed to try and stop him?

If the same thing had happened to Cam Newton, everybody would be bitching that Cam is a pussy.

true because he wouldn't have gotten up
 

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NFL Officials Botch Player Safety Again After Brutal Hit on Joe Flacco

The Ravens organization immediately placed Flacco into the concussion protocol and at halftime ruled him out for the rest of contest.

It was a needless, awful hit, which begs the question: Why wasn't it considered a flagrant foul, thus warranting an automatic ejection?

Alonso received an unnecessary roughness penalty, but he stayed in the contest and finished second on the Dolphins with five tackles.

Two arguments are being made in the linebacker's favor. First, the speed of the game makes it nearly impossible to redirect once a defender is in motion. Second, Flacco slid late.
It was a tough break but I had to say no, it wasn't dirty, for the exact reasons you pointed out. Additionally, the angle that flacco slid was almost perpendicular to the field, exposing his side to the tackler. While the hit was regrettable, from a defensive perspective, I'm not sure how it should have been played any different.
 
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