MilkSpiller22
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Peyton Manning
Alright, that's over, let's move on to the WRs!!!
umm... randy moss... that is boring too...
RB is really the only fun debate...
maybe TE, between Gronk, Gates and tony gonzalez...
Peyton Manning
Alright, that's over, let's move on to the WRs!!!
Peyton Manning
Alright, that's over, let's move on to the WRs!!!
umm... randy moss... that is boring too...
RB is really the only fun debate...
maybe TE, between Gronk, Gates and tony gonzalez...
Aww come on now. .. no discussion about Favre, Brady, Brees, Warner, Terrel Owens, Marvin Harrision, Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Jerry Rice???
I know that you were going to do different threads for this, but for quarterback I have to agree that it's Manning right now, although in about 5 or 6 more years, Aaron Rodgers might be the top choice. As far as wide receiver, since fantasy became mainstream, it has to be Moss because of the touchdown production, if you're going all time, it's Rice. I actually went digging in their career stat lines, and this might surprise some people, but I only took their 10 best years at each category: receptions, yards, and touchdowns.
Receptions
Moss - 775
Rice - 967
**not a big shocker here since Moss was always more of a deep threat guy than possession guy.
Yards
Moss - 13,145 yards for an average of 1314 per season for his ten best years which is amazing
Rice - 14,382 yards for an average of 1438 per season which is astounding
Touchdowns
Okay, so here's where everybody thinks Moss will make up the difference
Moss - 138 which is an average of 13.8 a year with a record high of 23 in 2007
Rice - 143 which is an average of 14.3 with a high of 22 in the strike-shortened 1987 season in just 12 games
So even in the stat that everybody thinks Moss would have the advantage he doesn't. Not to mention that Rice's 11th, 12th, and 13th best touchdown seasons were 9, 9, and 8.
So as surprising as it may be to some people, Randy Moss was not better than Jerry Rice was even if you take only their best years into account. I actually thought that Moss would have more touchdown and possibly more yards when I started this, but boy was I wrong. Not to mention the fact that Rice was by far the greatest Super Bowl fantasy player of all time too with these stats in his four games:
1988 11 catches for 215 yards and a touchdown
1989 7 catches for 148 yards and 3 touchdowns
1994 10 catches for 149 yards and 3 touchdowns
2002 5 catches for 77 yards and a touchdown
What sucks though, , fantasy football wasnt nearly what it is today during Rice's hay days.I know that you were going to do different threads for this, but for quarterback I have to agree that it's Manning right now, although in about 5 or 6 more years, Aaron Rodgers might be the top choice. As far as wide receiver, since fantasy became mainstream, it has to be Moss because of the touchdown production, if you're going all time, it's Rice. I actually went digging in their career stat lines, and this might surprise some people, but I only took their 10 best years at each category: receptions, yards, and touchdowns.
Receptions
Moss - 775
Rice - 967
**not a big shocker here since Moss was always more of a deep threat guy than possession guy.
Yards
Moss - 13,145 yards for an average of 1314 per season for his ten best years which is amazing
Rice - 14,382 yards for an average of 1438 per season which is astounding
Touchdowns
Okay, so here's where everybody thinks Moss will make up the difference
Moss - 138 which is an average of 13.8 a year with a record high of 23 in 2007
Rice - 143 which is an average of 14.3 with a high of 22 in the strike-shortened 1987 season in just 12 games
So even in the stat that everybody thinks Moss would have the advantage he doesn't. Not to mention that Rice's 11th, 12th, and 13th best touchdown seasons were 9, 9, and 8.
So as surprising as it may be to some people, Randy Moss was not better than Jerry Rice was even if you take only their best years into account. I actually thought that Moss would have more touchdown and possibly more yards when I started this, but boy was I wrong. Not to mention the fact that Rice was by far the greatest Super Bowl fantasy player of all time too with these stats in his four games:
1988 11 catches for 215 yards and a touchdown
1989 7 catches for 148 yards and 3 touchdowns
1994 10 catches for 149 yards and 3 touchdowns
2002 5 catches for 77 yards and a touchdown
The Oakland yrs have me sour on moss, where they make me even more amazed at Rice
A greatest of all time doesn't have seasons like those, especially pre age 30...i have a feeling there's plenty of peeps that wouldn't take Moss as the best fantasy WR..heck, id rather have TO who played in the same time frame. . Much more consistentThe first of the 2 Oakland years wasn't bad, just not a normal moss season.
A greatest of all time doesn't have seasons like those, especially pre age 30...i have a feeling there's plenty of peeps that wouldn't take Moss as the best fantasy WR..heck, id rather have TO who played in the same time frame. . Much more consistent
lets hear 3 of themI can write with a sharpie 5 reasons i disagree with you... But doesn't change the fact TO was amazing too....
I can write with a sharpie 5 reasons i disagree with you... But doesn't change the fact TO was amazing too....
What he saidlets hear 3 of them
I don't think you can compare them. Put Barry behind the Great Wall of Dallas and something tells me he wouldn't be looking sideways so much.
Emmitt is unmatched in being a horse... that's about it, imo. The Bruce Smith of running backs.