• Have something to say? Register Now! and be posting in minutes!

NFL's 100 best teams of all time

LambeauLegs

Well-Known Member
34,392
16,288
1,033
Joined
Jul 26, 2013
Location
Madison, WI
Hoopla Cash
$ 5,938.22
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
A Bear's homer must have written the article

NFL's 100 greatest teams of all time: Which squad is best in league history?


NFL's 100 greatest teams of all time: Which squad is best in league history?

1. 1985 Bears (won Super Bowl XX): Pure dominance. Their 15 regular-season wins came by an average of 18.1 points. The defense collected 64 sacks while allowing just 12.4 points a week. Chicago shut out the Giants and Rams in the NFC playoffs before that epic 46-10 Super Bowl dismantling of New England. All told, the Bears outscored their postseason opponents 91-10. Sure, it would have been nice to see a rematch with Dan Marino and the Dolphins, who handed Chicago its only loss of 1985, on Super Sunday. And maybe you'd like the best team of all time — arguably — to feature a more renowned quarterback than Jim McMahon, but the fact that an offense led by Walter Payton (1,551 rushing yards) was almost extraneous also illustrates just how transcendent Buddy Ryan's "46 defense" was. And for a list like this, a little flair should count for something, and with McMahon, Payton, Ryan, "Refrigerator" Perry, Mike Singletary, coach Mike Ditka and many others — most getting star turns with "The Super Bowl Shuffle" — the '85 Bears had character(s) in spades.

2. 1984 49ers (won Super Bowl XIX): They lacked the pizzazz of the '85 Bears and perhaps don't get their due given the historical proximity to that Chicago team. It's also challenging to distinguish the great Bill Walsh-Joe Montana San Francisco teams that dominated the 1980s. But this bunch was unique. The Niners were the first team to win 15 regular-season games (average margin of victory was nearly 17 points), a feat Chicago would match a year later — though they remain the only teams to finish 18-1 and claim rings. Before suffocating a spectacular Dolphins team, Marino's best, 38-16 in the Super Bowl, the 49ers vanquished the Giants and Bears by a combined score of 44-10 in the NFC playoffs — those franchises would win the next two Super Bowls with teams ranking among the best ever. This all occurred a year before Jerry Rice arrived.

3. 1962 Packers (won NFL title): Widely regarded as the premier team coached by legendary Vince Lombardi, even if it reigned four years prior to the Super Bowl's debut. Green Bay finished 13-1, its wins coming by an average of more than three touchdowns. The roster sported 11 Hall of Famers, not including Lombardi. They onlybeat the imposing Giants 16-7 in the championship game, but it was staged in New York's 8-degree wind chill, which didn't lend itself to much offense. Regardless, that battle helped launch NFL Films to prominence.

4. 1989 49ers (won Super Bowl XXIV): Stacking them up against their '84 brethren engenders a chocolate versus vanilla debate. The '89 Niners — Rice by now the league's top wideout — were a touch less formidable in the regular season, going 14-2 with an average victory margin just short of 14 points. But boy did that '89 juggernaut hit overdrive in the playoffs, winning its three games by a combined 126-26. Their 55-10 beatdown of the Broncos remains the most lopsided in Super Bowl history and also represents the most points scored by one team. However the postseason competition for the '89 Niners didn't approach what the '84 team faced. With a career-best 112.4 QB rating, Montana earned league (and later Super Bowl) MVP honors.

5. 1972 Dolphins (won Super Bowl VII): Yes, it's still the only team to win a Super Bowl without dropping a game (17-0), and there's no real counterargument for "perfection." But it's also a lazy argument. Miami won its three postseason games by a combined 17 points. It also feasted on a horrid regular-season schedule that included just two teams finishing with winning records (both a middling 8-6). This isn't meant to shade the Fins and their "No-Name Defense," a roster with six Hall of Famers plus Don Shula, the winningest coach in NFL history. But context matters, and it already seems a concession ranking the '72 Dolphins ahead of 1970s contemporaries in Pittsburgh, Dallas and even Oakland — not to mention clubs previously ranked on this list. A special group indeed but not the most special for my money.

6. 1991 Redskins (won Super Bowl XXVI): After going 14-2 and outscoring their foes by 261 points in the regular season, they swept through the playoffs with an average margin of victory better than 20 points. The only Washington team to win a Super Bowl in a non-strike season, these underappreciated 'Skins would have gone all the way in most years. They topped 40 points five times and blanked three teams, so excellent balance — and that extended to special teams and return man extraordinaire Brian Mitchell.

7. 1994 49ers (won Super Bowl XXIX): With QB Steve Young now at the helm, they became the only Niners team to surpass 500 points in the regular season. After thwarting a three-peat bid by the Cowboys, they cruised past the Chargers in the Super Bowl, when Young threw a game-record six TD passes, while Rice and Ricky Watters found the end zone three times apiece. And don't forget the other side of the ball, which featured defensive player of the year Deion Sanders.

8. 1975 Steelers (won Super Bowl X): It "feels" a touch disrespectful waiting this long to mention the Steel Curtain dynasty, perhaps the league's greatest. The issue? None of those teams seemed to feature its wealth of Hall of Famers at a simultaneous apex, the defense largely showing the way in the early '70s before the offense truly flourished later in the decade. (A 1970s Pittsburgh team that did not win the Super Bowl might have been the best entry ... keep reading.) But the '75 team's case is compelling given a 12-2 record and the largest point differential (plus-211) in franchise history. Throw in a Super Bowl win against a Cowboys team that was nearly as good, and you have the makings of a powerhouse deserving recognition as one of the NFL's 10 greatest teams.

9. 1999 Rams (won Super Bowl XXXIV): Though many sophisticated passing attacks had shined previously, the "Greatest Show on Turf" was in some ways the vanguard of today's pass-oriented game. QB Kurt Warner, RB Marshall Faulk and WRs Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt truly resembled a game of "Madden" come to life, St. Louis' 13 regular-season wins coming by an average of nearly 23 points. Remarkably consistent, the Rams were held to fewer than 20 points just once (in the NFC title round by Tampa Bay) and eclipsed 30 points 13 times. And Warner's ascension from complete unknown to league MVP and, ultimately, a Hall of Famer is a quintessential rags-to-riches tale. If there's a blemish, it would be a labored playoff run that included a semi-controversial win in the aforementioned 11-6 defeat of the Bucs.

10. 1996 Packers (won Super Bowl XXXI): QB Brett Favre was in the midst of becoming the only player to earn MVP hardware in three consecutive seasons. Reggie White, arguably the best defensive lineman ever, was still a force, collecting three sacks of Patriots QB Drew Bledsoe in the Super Bowl. And from a numbers standpoint, this club ranks favorably with any in Green Bay's vaunted history, going 13-3 in the regular season before trashing its playoff opponents by an average of 17.3 points.
 

rmilia1

Well-Known Member
44,499
10,514
1,033
Joined
Aug 30, 2011
Location
iowa
Hoopla Cash
$ 86,060.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
There are 8-8 teams in the league right now who would beat some of those too 10 teams by 3 TDs. Not having any team from the last 20 years in the top 10 is laughable . Guys are bigger , stronger , faster now
 

Ricky Roma

The Catch
6,692
1,301
173
Joined
Aug 30, 2014
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
There isn't one 49er team that is better than any of the 70's Steelers teams, let alone three of them. The 1985 Bears are not the best team ever....the '99 Rams even making a top 10 list? Holy shit, I'm almost afraid to click on that link to see what other stupidity awaits.
 

Ricky Roma

The Catch
6,692
1,301
173
Joined
Aug 30, 2014
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
There are 8-8 teams in the league right now who would beat some of those too 10 teams by 3 TDs. Not having any team from the last 20 years in the top 10 is laughable . Guys are bigger , stronger , faster now

This kind of reasoning makes the original list look perfect.
 

richig07

Well-Known Member
14,819
3,090
293
Joined
Jul 11, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 200.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
There are 8-8 teams in the league right now who would beat some of those too 10 teams by 3 TDs. Not having any team from the last 20 years in the top 10 is laughable . Guys are bigger , stronger , faster now

But that has nothing to do with being the greatest team of all-time. Literally, nothing.

You compare individual players and team dominance relative to that of their counterparts and the climate they played within. It's about how you dominated the NFL when you played. Not how you would or wouldn't have dominated the NFL in a different time period.

You cannot send a team from the 80's to 2019 for a matchup. Anymore than you can take a player from today, send him back half a century to grow up in the 60's/70's and guarantee that they would be conditioned to be the same size or possess the same strength/speed. They are both equally foolish concepts.
 

richig07

Well-Known Member
14,819
3,090
293
Joined
Jul 11, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 200.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
There isn't one 49er team that is better than any of the 70's Steelers teams, let alone three of them. The 1985 Bears are not the best team ever....the '99 Rams even making a top 10 list? Holy shit, I'm almost afraid to click on that link to see what other stupidity awaits.

If the Bears didn't pull their starters in the Super Bowl for the 4th quarter they would have outscored their opponents 91-3 in the post-season. lol. The Pats had NEGATIVE YARDAGE until that point. They got a field goal in the 1st quarter after a rare Payton fumble at the Bears 20 after they proceeded to lose yardage on the drive. They outscored Parcells Giants 21-0 and beat the LA Rams 24-0. They blanked the god damn NFC in the playoffs. They had the league's #1 offense and #1 defense. They lost one game all season... which was with their backup QB playing, on the road to the AFC's #1 seed. They had a point differential of +256.

"The 85 Bears were not the best team of all-time." Lol, hey... I'm willing to listen to any argument. However, when that statement is all that you can muster up. You have a tall mountain to climb against what has been laid out above.
 

FaCe-LeE-uS

ΔΣΦ
Moderator
57,901
28,482
1,033
Joined
Jul 2, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,513.03
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
1978 Steelers team was arguably better than '75. That year they finally had a potent offense to compliment its defense. It was the crowning jewel of the franchise. Hell I'd even argue the '76 team was more legit than '75 if it wasn't for injuries.

But at any rate... Not putting any of those 3 teams in the top 5 is blasphemous.
 

rmilia1

Well-Known Member
44,499
10,514
1,033
Joined
Aug 30, 2011
Location
iowa
Hoopla Cash
$ 86,060.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
But that has nothing to do with being the greatest team of all-time. Literally, nothing.

You compare individual players and team dominance relative to that of their counterparts and the climate they played within. It's about how you dominated the NFL when you played. Not how you would or wouldn't have dominated the NFL in a different time period.

You cannot send a team from the 80's to 2019 for a matchup. Anymore than you can take a player from today, send him back half a century to grow up in the 60's/70's and guarantee that they would be conditioned to be the same size or possess the same strength/speed. They are both equally foolish concepts.
All that would be true if this was a list of the 100 most dominant teams ever . It's not . It's the BEST teams ever . The 2 aren't the same . Competition levels change in every sport and what was dominant 50 years ago would get destroyed now so by definition it can't be the best ever . Best if it's generation ? Sure . Most dominant ? Sure . Best ever . Not a shot
 

Ricky Roma

The Catch
6,692
1,301
173
Joined
Aug 30, 2014
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
If the Bears didn't pull their starters in the Super Bowl for the 4th quarter they would have outscored their opponents 91-3 in the post-season. lol. The Pats had NEGATIVE YARDAGE until that point. They got a field goal in the 1st quarter after a rare Payton fumble at the Bears 20 after they proceeded to lose yardage on the drive. They outscored Parcells Giants 21-0 and beat the LA Rams 24-0. They blanked the god damn NFC in the playoffs. They had the league's #1 offense and #1 defense. They lost one game all season... which was with their backup QB playing, on the road to the AFC's #1 seed. They had a point differential of +256.

"The 85 Bears were not the best team of all-time." Lol, hey... I'm willing to listen to any argument. However, when that statement is all that you can muster up. You have a tall mountain to climb against what has been laid out above.

Who says it's all I CAN muster up? Those Bears weren't the best team of all time for a few reasons IMO. First of all....great teams AFAIC span over a length of time....those Bears won a total of one SB. That means, to me, they had a great season. Greatest season ever? I can perhaps buy. Arguably the greatest defense ever, because that's what they were for a 4/5 year span. Secondly, they didn't have the #1 offense...they were #7, and again...that was more because of a magical, one year run. They were only great on one side of the ball. That's just for starters...
 

boogiewithstu2007

Well-Known Member
17,032
4,283
293
Joined
Jul 3, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I think the 13 Seahawks should be in the top 10, that D was the only defense since the 85 Chicago Bears to lead the league in points allowed, yards allowed and takeaways... They also dominated the best offense in NFL history statistically in the Super Bowl... I think they’re at least top 10 worthy...
 

LetsGoPats

Well-Known Member
13,671
5,242
533
Joined
Dec 13, 2016
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
2007 Patriots are (#17)?

And the 1968 Jets (16) > 2004 Patriots (29) ?

:puzzled:

Call me a homer, but this guy seems like a Patriot hater.
 

Fountain City Blues

Love Everybody
45,625
12,986
1,033
Joined
Jul 2, 2013
Location
The Gates of Hell
Hoopla Cash
$ 500.36
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
2007 Patriots are (#17)?

And the 1968 Jets (16) > 2004 Patriots (29) ?

:puzzled:

Call me a homer, but this guy seems like a Patriot hater.
Seems to put waaaaaaaaay too much stock into postseason result for the most part. Losing in the SB seems to have frowned upon in an overly negative manner.
 

Dr. Strangelove

Well-Known Member
9,508
5,228
533
Joined
Jun 5, 2016
Location
Moncton, New Brunswick
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
By the look of that list, definitely an NFC fan and it seems a Niner fan. His choice but put up the Niner logo and be honest. @Ricky Roma , is that you buddy? Lol,just kidding. :suds:

And he makes his own argument against the 72 Fins. A perfect season is special for sure but I don't buy them top 10 let alone top 5. 78 Steelers far superior imo and faced tougher competition. 07 Pats should be on the list as well despite losing to the Gmen in the SB.
 

cowboycolors

Well-Known Member
13,906
9,387
533
Joined
Jul 15, 2013
Location
Dallas Texas
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Only the 92 Cowboys team was listed and at 26 this list is just sad
no mention of the other 2 90's teams
This list was not done by a learned football observer
 

richig07

Well-Known Member
14,819
3,090
293
Joined
Jul 11, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 200.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
All that would be true if this was a list of the 100 most dominant teams ever . It's not . It's the BEST teams ever . The 2 aren't the same . Competition levels change in every sport and what was dominant 50 years ago would get destroyed now so by definition it can't be the best ever . Best if it's generation ? Sure . Most dominant ? Sure . Best ever . Not a shot

This is, without a doubt... the dumbest post in the history of posts. lol. Holy shit.

You use how much a team "dominated" to determine "best team ever". That's the entire point of bringing up point differential, post-season dominance, etc.

This is true with any sport. Baseball and basketball too. How easily did they roll through the playoffs? How dominant were they in the regular season? 72-10 Bulls, Big Red Machine of the 70's, 27 Yankees, etc.

what was dominant 50 years ago would get destroyed now so by definition it can't be the best ever

And what would destroy those teams now... wouldn't be the same 50 years ago. So, what's your point?

Hank Aaron, Willie Mays or Babe Ruth probably never saw a 100 MPH fastball or breaking stuff like guys throw today. If they did, it was VERY rare. They were also inferiorly trained and conditioned. They would probably fair horribly if you tossed them into the fire tomorrow night in an MLB lineup. Does that mean they aren't three of the best ever to play? No.

You really need to cut your losses on this one.
 

Clayton

Well-Known Member
36,645
10,149
1,033
Joined
May 17, 2012
Hoopla Cash
$ 9,000.59
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
No Cowboys teams in the top 10?

Not clicking on the link. The guy knows less than half of the people on this board.
 

richig07

Well-Known Member
14,819
3,090
293
Joined
Jul 11, 2013
Hoopla Cash
$ 200.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Who says it's all I CAN muster up? Those Bears weren't the best team of all time for a few reasons IMO. First of all....great teams AFAIC span over a length of time....those Bears won a total of one SB. That means, to me, they had a great season. Greatest season ever? I can perhaps buy. Arguably the greatest defense ever, because that's what they were for a 4/5 year span. Secondly, they didn't have the #1 offense...they were #7, and again...that was more because of a magical, one year run. They were only great on one side of the ball. That's just for starters...

Who says it's all I CAN muster up? Those Bears weren't the best team of all time for a few reasons IMO. First of all....great teams AFAIC span over a length of time....those Bears won a total of one SB.

Lol. Whenever someone brings up this argument first, I know they have nothing. We ARE talking about single season teams. Did you read the OP? NEXT.

Secondly, they didn't have the #1 offense...they were #7, and again...that was more because of a magical, one year run. They were only great on one side of the ball.

See, this is an insane thought... but I believe (JUST MAYBE) that points scored is a TAD more important than how much yardage you gain. They were #2 in that. I had been thinking they were #1 because the list I looked up of their accomplishments said (#1 in the NFC) and well... such a long list will make you miss a detail or two.

You know who else was 2nd in scoring offense? The 84 Niners.

So... your two points are basically useless. This was easier than I thought. Really? That's it? #2 instead of #1... Oops. And then... "They weren't a dynasty even though we're talking about single season teams!"

Anything else? lol
 

Chewbaccer

Illustrious Potentate
55,471
15,659
1,033
Joined
Jul 10, 2014
Location
Jasper, GA
Hoopla Cash
$ 3,400.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
If you're just ranking the best teams, I'd put the 07 Patriots near the top. No, they didn't win the Super Bowl, but that was probably the best team I've ever seen.
 

Ricky Roma

The Catch
6,692
1,301
173
Joined
Aug 30, 2014
Hoopla Cash
$ 1,000.00
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
Lol. Whenever someone brings up this argument first, I know they have nothing. We ARE talking about single season teams. Did you read the OP? NEXT.

Yeah...I read the OP, and most here believe the OP's list is idiotic. Secondly, 'we' aren't talking about single years.....YOU are, and I don't simply go by one year, because one year is meaningless to me. It doesn't make any player great, nor any team great. They couldn't even get back to another SB, and that strikes heavily when I rate teams. The Bears had a great season....not a great team.

See, this is an insane thought...

Of course it is...to you...and you were still wrong. They weren't #1 or #2 or whatever...they were #7 ranked offensively, and as anybody knows anything about those Bears, they were never an offensive juggernaut. They were an average offense who had one year where everything fell in place. When considering the norm, ie, multiple years, those facts come true.
 

Clayton

Well-Known Member
36,645
10,149
1,033
Joined
May 17, 2012
Hoopla Cash
$ 9,000.59
Fav. Team #1
Fav. Team #2
Fav. Team #3
I get where rmilia is coming from but the NFL is too complex to just compare older teams to newer teams without context.

Co-evolution naturally elevates the game so newer athletes are better than older athletes. Newer coaches are better than older coaches because thats how society advances. Its not really fair to the older athletes to view things in that light because if they had the same knowledge, diets, trainers, etc, then they would have a real shot of dominating in today's game, too.

On the flip side, the salary cap really gutted the ability to create the super teams of old. What nostalgia glosses over is that a lot of these older Super Bowls were real stinkers because the NFL really did have one team that was much better than the others. In today's NFL, the Patriots are much better coached (and GM'd) than the other teams but thats not nearly the same thing.

Defenses (and the rules around defenses) were just better in the 80s and early 90s, too. Touchdowns scored in games went in decline during that period so you almost needed a slew of hall of famers on offense just to be competitive. You only see one 'modern' NFL team in the top 10 (GSOT) and it doesn't really belong because it comes from an era of parity.

The NFL is better when it doesn't have these great teams.
 
Top