Wilson going to the Broncos

[MrS]

His athleticism peaked and crashed years ago. he is still a good passer but like ive said many times his speed and agility masked the problems his height creates.

 

[blstoker]

His athleticism peaked and crashed years ago. he is still a good passer but like ive said many times his speed and agility masked the problems his height creates.

Well, if it peaked and crashed years ago - then obviously your theory about Wilson's need to be fast and agile to cover his "short"-comings is false, as his production hasn't crashed in the years since this supposedly happened.

 

[flyerhawk]

His athleticism peaked and crashed years ago. he is still a good passer but like ive said many times his speed and agility masked the problems his height creates.

It's remarkable how much his drop in athleticism hurt the Seahawks defense and turned it into trash for the last 4 years.

 

[MrS]

It's remarkable how much his drop in athleticism hurt the Seahawks defense and turned it into trash for the last 4 years.

putting the defense on the field for 45 minutes of game time hurts.

Well, if it peaked and crashed years ago - then obviously your theory about Wilson's need to be fast and agile to cover his "short"-comings is false, as his production hasn't crashed in the years since this supposedly happened.

second half of 2020 he shit it up, and didnt play that well last year either even when he wasnt injured. sure, holding onto the ball and taking sacks instead of throwing it away preserves his completion percentage and his rating but the eye test tells a different story.

 

[MrS]

here is his stat line against chicago, 104.1 rating but it was a shit game from him and we lost at home.

Player	Tm	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	Yds	Lng	Rate	Att	Yds	TD	Lng	Tgt	Rec	Yds	TD	Lng	Fmb	FL
Russell Wilson	SEA	16	27	181	2	0	2	20	41	104.1	2	13	0	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

 

[flyerhawk]

putting the defense on the field for 45 minutes of game time hurts.

Ahh that's Russell Wilson's fault of course.

Like the Titans game when Russ went 22/31 with 11.1 YPA. That was why the Titans had 80 offensive plays including 40 rushing plays?

So I guess our defense will turn things around this year now that they aren't weighed down by Russ' poor quarterbacking?

 

[flyerhawk]

here is his stat line against chicago, 104.1 rating but it was a shit game from him and we lost at home.

Player	Tm	Cmp	Att	Yds	TD	Int	Sk	Yds	Lng	Rate	Att	Yds	TD	Lng	Tgt	Rec	Yds	TD	Lng	Fmb	FL
Russell Wilson	SEA	16	27	181	2	0	2	20	41	104.1	2	13	0	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

You think the Seahawks defense giving up 26 1st downs despite the Bears only getting 4.6 yards per play might have been a factor? How bout the Bears converting 7 3rd downs?

 

[blstoker]

You think the Seahawks defense giving up 26 1st downs despite the Bears only getting 4.6 yards per play might have been a factor? How bout the Bears converting 7 3rd downs?

Well, you know, Russell is wholly responsible for every loss - but only tangentially connected to any win.

 

[MrS]

You think the Seahawks defense giving up 26 1st downs despite the Bears only getting 4.6 yards per play might have been a factor? How bout the Bears converting 7 3rd downs?

I guess the seahawks defense could only stop wilson from converting third downs, he went 3/10.

He has never been that good at converting third downs though.

 

[MrS]

Well, you know, Russell is wholly responsible for every loss - but only tangentially connected to any win.

Sure he gets credit, but we only won 7 games. He was only responsible for a 6-8 record.

 

[flyerhawk]

Well, you know, Russell is wholly responsible for every loss - but only tangentially connected to any win.

Yeah, this is the crap that drives me crazy. If you want to say it was time to move on from Russ, fine. I completely disagree but I could be mistaken. It is possible that it was Russ holding back the Seahawks. It just defies all common sense.

 

[flyerhawk]

Sure he gets credit, but we only won 7 games. He was only responsible for a 6-8 record.

And when we won 12 games the year before? Or does that no longer matter?

 

[MrS]

And when we won 12 games the year before? Or does that no longer matter?

Sure but again he didnt hold up down the stretch and we lost at home in the playoffs

 

[flyerhawk]

Sure but again he didnt hold up down the stretch and we lost at home in the playoffs

So the 23 points the defense gave up to Jared Goff isn't factor?

 

[blstoker]

Yeah, this is the crap that drives me crazy. If you want to say it was time to move on from Russ, fine. I completely disagree but I could be mistaken. It is possible that it was Russ holding back the Seahawks. It just defies all common sense.

Yep, he only matters if they lose.

 

[blstoker]

So the 23 points the defense gave up to Jared Goff isn't factor?

or the 14 pressures/hits on the 27 throws he actually got off (and the 5 sacks for the ones he didn't).

He played poorly, but the Rams played him tough like they always do.

 

[flyerhawk]

or the 14 pressures/hits on the 27 throws he actually got off (and the 5 sacks for the ones he didn't).

He played poorly, but the Rams played him tough like they always do.

Certainly Russ is far from above fault. But, IMO, the team was relying far too much on Russ because exceptional in order to win close games at the end.

So now we are going to have, at best, league average QB play and we expect different results?

 

[JMR]

His athleticism peaked and crashed years ago. he is still a good passer but like ive said many times his speed and agility masked the problems his height creates.

I agree he's not the same athlete now at 33 vs when he was 26. This is sort of a "father time is undefeated" type statement though. Like a couple others have said, his decline in speed/mobility hasn't kept him from still being one of the most productive and efficient QBs in the league the last 4+ years. He probably won't ever rush for 600+ yards in a season again, but I bet he has more seasons of 40+ TDs, 4k+ yards, and 100+ passer rating.

 

[flyerhawk]

So Tyreek Hill is making Russ look like a bargain basement player.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

So Tyreek Hill is making Russ look like a bargain basement player.

Not at all. Guess we are going to hear you complaining about Russ getting traded for the foreseeable future then.