will tom brady ever be called goat

[LogicMan]

Many people and websites already call him that. The debate seems to be him or Joe. Not bad company

 

[cwalke3408]

That's like saying Peyton won a SB for Denver but it does reinforce to all of us what you think good/elite is

Or saying Brady won the first 3 for NE.

 

[Southieinnc]

I keep waking up with horses' heads in my bed!

 

[HammerDown]

Many people and websites already call him that. The debate seems to be him or Joe. Not bad company

The debate seems to be that you have Peyton Manning and Johnny Unitas.

Then you have everyone else. Tom Brady was never even the best player on his team nor has he ever been known for being a good teammate.

 

[TBBishop]

Tom Brady has been the GOAT!

 

[cwalke3408]

A lot of what brady gets credit for is what was done before he was elite and in his prime. He was what Russel Wilson is now, a very good QB on a team with a great defense and HC. Not necessary a bad thing but when another QB in your era have putting up better numbers in the regular season and in the playoffs, haven't lost to your team in the playoffs since 05, who also have taken 4 different HC to the SB, and have claim 5 MVPs.

Can't be considered GOAT when you're not the best in your era.

 

[wazzu31]

Brady's not even the GOAT Patriots quarterback

 

[sonnyblack65]

The debate seems to be that you have Peyton Manning and Johnny Unitas.

Then you have everyone else. Tom Brady was never even the best player on his team nor has he ever been known for being a good teammate.

That's where I feel bad for PM. he really isn't the face of either Colts or Denver. Denver will be always Elway and Colts is broken up to 3 QB;s as face. Old timers will have Unitas, Middle aged will have Peyton and youngens will have Luck

 

[Oldschool739]

Many people and websites already call him that. The debate seems to be him or Joe. Not bad company

The only GOAT TB could be is a ScapeGOAT, but he wasn't even good enough to be that.....

 

[RegentDenali]

The only ones who would every call Brady the goat is his goo garglers in beantown.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

In general I couldn't care less.

But in my recroom he pips Aikman and Staubach.

After that I also couldn't care less.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

The only GOAT TB could be is a ScapeGOAT, but he wasn't even good enough to be that.....

You know, that wasn't 1/2 bad.....

And maybe you didn't know it, but also 100% true....

A sacrificial lamb in fact....

 

[LogicMan]

Sonny that's a good point about Unitas vs PM. Unitas won 4 championships and all with Colts. I think it's fair to throw Unitas up in the discussion with Brady and Montana. If Tom ever hits 5 tho it's a given

 

[Money]

That's where I feel bad for PM. he really isn't the face of either Colts or Denver. Denver will be always Elway and Colts is broken up to 3 QB;s as face. Old timers will have Unitas, Middle aged will have Peyton and youngens will have Luck

Sonny that's a good point about Unitas vs PM. Unitas won 4 championships and all with Colts. I think it's fair to throw Unitas up in the discussion with Brady and Montana. If Tom ever hits 5 tho it's a given

There is no Unitas vs PM. There was the Baltimore Colts which was a pillar franchise of the NFL and then there is the Indianapolis Colts. Nobody looks at the Baltimore Ravens as the Cleveland Browns (unless they are being assholes about it), because Cleveland kept the Browns name, colors and history (as it should have).

Btw...Unitas is the GOAT. Nobody has changed the position more than him. He is the pioneer of the downfield passing game.

 

[sonnyblack65]

There is no Unitas vs PM. There was the Baltimore Colts which was a pillar franchise of the NFL and then there is the Indianapolis Colts. Nobody looks at the Baltimore Ravens as the Cleveland Browns (unless they are being assholes about it), because Cleveland kept the Browns name, colors and history (as it should have).

Btw...Unitas is the GOAT. Nobody has changed the position more than him. He is the pioneer of the downfield passing game.

That is strictly your opinion, which I respect. I have him in my top 5 along with Staubach and Elway rounding it off.

 

[Money]

That is strictly your opinion, which I respect. I have him in my top 5 along with Staubach and Elway rounding it off.

It's not strictly just my opinion.

Bracketology - Greatest Quarterback of all Time - NFL.com

 

[BigKen]

Will tom brady ever be called goat?

I'll settle this right now.......

Tom Brady is the Greatest of All Time quarterbacks ever to play in the NFL.

So yes, he will be called the greatest of all time........by me.

 

[HammerDown]

Will tom brady ever be called goat?

I'll settle this right now.......

Tom Brady is the Greatest of All Time quarterbacks ever to play in the NFL.

So yes, he will be called the greatest of all time........by me.

Tom *Brady cheated.

 

[sonnyblack65]

It's not strictly just my opinion.

Bracketology - Greatest Quarterback of all Time - NFL.com

Seriously NFL.com ok it's set in concrete my bad. The GOAT is purely speculative my friend. Some will say Unitas, others Montana, Marino, Staubach etc

15 of the best NFL quarterbacks ever

15 of the best NFL quarterbacks ever

First 2 lists I google have Brady at no#1 and Montana at #2 it's settled

 

[BigKen]

Btw...Unitas is the GOAT. Nobody has changed the position more than him. He is the pioneer of the downfield passing game.

Actually Unitas didn't change anything. He just happened along during a time when 90% of offensive football was done by running backs. Jimmy Brown was what every team was digging through colleges for or at least someone half of him. Unitas passed more because he had an oddball TE named John Mackey who couldn't block to save his life but could run and catch and was 6'3" tall when the average NFL player was 6'0". Name one other passing quarterback in that era who actually made the record books.

Van Brocklin and Graham redefined the QB position.

As much as I hate to admit it, Dan Marino changed the game to a passing game. He was the first to read the defensive alignment and call an audible. He had the quickest release in the history of the NFL. He changed the requirements of being an NFL quarterback. He actually was/is the definition of "Pocket Passer". He truly re-defined "Downfield".