who's overpaid?

[maniax]

Looking at ninercaphell, who do you think is overpaid next year?

NinerCapHell.com | 2012 Numbers

Willis'es monster $17M cap hit is some accounting trick, so just ignore that.

Gore is probably slightly overpaid by about $2M but he's a team leader (I think he's worth $4M)

Crabtree is probably slightly overpaid by about $1-2M (I think he's worth $2-3M)

Spencer will probably be asked to take a major pay cut, or get cut.

Haralson I also think could be asked to take a pay cut, or get cut.

So overall there's not a lot of fat to trim, we are in really good shape cap wise if you ask me, and the money is generally well spent.

 

[shouldakepowens]

Alex will soon be overpaid if he get 10 mil a year haralson should be gone unless he wants a paycut

 

[DoobieKeebler]

I read the Niners are expected to offer Alex a contract at around 7 mil a year.

Expect Spencer to be cut.

Don't think Haralson will be cut because he really isn't making that much.

 

[NinerSickness]

Who's overpaid?

Goodwin, Spencer, Haralson, Frank Gore (next season), Michael Crabtree.

 

[Flyingiguana]

i'd add whitner to the list. he's a liability in coverage, but excellent against the run. goldson on a franchise tag will be overpaid. maybe he makes me eat crow, but i don't think he'll have half the season he did this past year

 

[bvanthielriceyoung]

Kyle Williams

 

[Flyingiguana]

Kyle Williams

haha, threads over

 

[imac_21]

i'd add whitner to the list. he's a liability in coverage, but excellent against the run. goldson on a franchise tag will be overpaid. maybe he makes me eat crow, but i don't think he'll have half the season he did this past year

That wouldn't be a smart bet. This was his lowest tackle total in 3 years. n 2009 he had 94 tackles, 3 FF and 4 INT. This year he had 67/1/6.

 

[Flyingiguana]

his tackles should be down considering the guys we have at mlb.

 

[imac_21]

his tackles should be down considering the guys we have at mlb.

That's great. To expect him to have less than half the season he did this ear is crazy.

 

[Flyingiguana]

i dont see him getting 6 interceptions and making the pro bowl next season. teams will expose him next year

 

[imac_21]

i dont see him getting 6 interceptions and making the pro bowl next season. teams will expose him next year

That's significantly different than not thinking "he'll have half the season he did this past year."

 

[clyde_carbon]

I'd rather not pay Goldson any significant amount of money. He's not that good, especially considering the front seven he's playing behind.

 

[NinerSickness]

I'd rather not pay Goldson any significant amount of money. He's not that good, especially considering the front seven he's playing behind.

While I agree I wouldn't pay him that much money I think he's pretty good. But he's replaceable; the Niners MUST keep the front 7 strong and the rest will fall into place.

 

[Flyingiguana]

That's significantly different than not thinking "he'll have half the season he did this past year."

there's more to a season than just a stats sheet...

 

[clyde_carbon]

While I agree I wouldn't pay him that much money I think he's pretty good. But he's replaceable; the Niners MUST keep the front 7 strong and the rest will fall into place.

I disagree. He's a liability in coverage, and that's with a strong front seven in front of him. If our front seven has an off day, I don't have any confidence in him to pick up the slack.

He gives up way too many yards to get INTs.

 

[imac_21]

there's more to a season than just a stats sheet...

So expand on your comment. How will he have less than half the season he had last year?

 

[jakea31]

So expand on your comment. How will he have less than half the season he had last year?

I cannot find the numbers, but I would think the time of possession for the Niners' O was much different than the previous season. That would leave less opportunities for tackles. Again, I cannot find the numbers, so it is only a theory.

Also, there are other factors like new defensive coordinator, better defensive back play, the obvious is different teams (besides divisional games), and role in the backfield, that might play a role in the decrease number of tackles.

With that said, I agree with Sick that he is good, but replaceable. I would not break the bank for the guy. I think he can be an idiot at times (ie kicking the football and getting a penalty).

 

[jakea31]

Okay, found it
Opponents' Time of Possession
2010: 31:33
2011: 28:03

Obviously, the Niners' offense helped the defense out this year, but I do not know if 3 minutes and 30 seconds on average played a major role in the reduce number of tackles, so I would say a combination of this and the others mentioned. Didn't Goldson play up on the line last season?

Oh well, I just wanted to add another perspective.

 

[imac_21]

I cannot find the numbers, but I would think the time of possession for the Niners' O was much different than the previous season. That would leave less opportunities for tackles. Again, I cannot find the numbers, so it is only a theory.

Also, there are other factors like new defensive coordinator, better defensive back play, the obvious is different teams (besides divisional games), and role in the backfield, that might play a role in the decrease number of tackles.

With that said, I agree with Sick that he is good, but replaceable. I would not break the bank for the guy. I think he can be an idiot at times (ie kicking the football and getting a penalty).

So because of these factors, Goldson in 2012 will have less than half as an effective season as he had in 2011?