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[deep9er]

Niners Likely to Dip Into Deep Pool of Running Backs | NBC Bay Area

ok, so if this years RB class is deep, makes it harder to re-sign Gore. Cause we might still get a good RB in the 5th or even 6th round? Those teams that draft a RB earlier, won't draft another.

Baalke will try to negotiate with Gore but the 49ers simply can't offer enough money. I'm not against re-signing Gore, but in the overall picture - draft and cap - just don't see it?

The other factor is of course Hyde, who has already shown he can play. Don't know if his blitz pick ups are consistent, but he can run and catch.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Niners Likely to Dip Into Deep Pool of Running Backs | NBC Bay Area

ok, so if this years RB class is deep, makes it harder to re-sign Gore. Cause we might still get a good RB in the 5th or even 6th round? Those teams that draft a RB earlier, won't draft another.

Baalke will try to negotiate with Gore but the 49ers simply can't offer enough money. I'm not against re-signing Gore, but in the overall picture - draft and cap - just don't see it?

The other factor is of course Hyde, who has already shown he can play. Don't know if his blitz pick ups are consistent, but he can run and catch.

Gore can no longer be the primary ball carrier and his salary would need to reflect that. It would need to be more of a comittee approach. If he expects to have the bulk of the carries, then he should probably try to go somewhere else. He is going to wear down by the second half of the season if he gets too many carries

 

[deep9er]

Gore can no longer be the primary ball carrier and his salary would need to reflect that. It would need to be more of a comittee approach. If he expects to have the bulk of the carries, then he should probably try to go somewhere else. He is going to wear down by the second half of the season if he gets too many carries

yep, he's at that point where all good players eventually find themselves...near retirement. In this case its harder for us because he's only been a 49er.

Hard to let him go as he can still do some good things, but no room for sentiment. Better for both sides if he moves on now. The more I think about it, we shouldn't "insult" him with a low offer reflecting a 'committee RB'.

our RB spot will weaken but it won't drop off a lot. Whereas this will open up cap space to strengthen another spot, or keep another spot solid.

 

[Pattersonca65]

yep, he's at that point where all good players eventually find themselves...near retirement. In this case its harder for us because he's only been a 49er.

Hard to let him go as he can still do some good things, but no room for sentiment. Better for both sides if he moves on now. The more I think about it, we shouldn't "insult" him with a low offer reflecting a 'committee RB'.

our RB spot will weaken but it won't drop off a lot. Whereas this will open up cap space to strengthen another spot, or keep another spot solid.

I agree. I think all you can do is be totally honest on what his role is going to be and what they can offer to pay. Players don't like to hear they can't play like they used to and some have a really hard time accepting it. I remember Dwight Clark in interview describing that conversation he had with Bill Walsh.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Looks like Crabtree and Llyoyd are gone

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...-unlikely-to-sign--49ers-2015-nfl-free-agents

 

[deep9er]

Looks like Crabtree and Llyoyd are gone

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2015-02-17/michael-crabtree-brandon-lloyd-unlikely-to-sign--49ers-2015-nfl-free-agents

makes sense to all of us

 

[purguy12]

Im a fan of drafting a RB every year. Im not saying 2nd or 3rd rd but I do like the idea of drafting one in the draft. Same goes with WR. Also if u have extra picks.

 

[deep9er]

Im a fan of drafting a RB every year. Im not saying 2nd or 3rd rd but I do like the idea of drafting one in the draft. Same goes with WR. Also if u have extra picks.

nowadays, think that should apply to CB's? Or at least an occasional NB?

it is mostly passing for every opponent, so you always need good pass defenders. I listed CB's cause you typically need to spend higher picks to get quality Pass rushers.

 

[purguy12]

nowadays, think that should apply to CB's? Or at least an occasional NB?

it is mostly passing for every opponent, so you always need good pass defenders. I listed CB's cause you typically need to spend higher picks to get quality Pass rushers.

Yeah this is another position I like to draft but its hard to find good talent in late rds with CBs. I guess the odds aren't that bad compared to other positions. IF I had to rank later rds findings by positions.
1)WR
2)RB
3)CB
4)OL
5)LBs
6)DT
7)TEs
8)safety
9)DE
10)Pass rusher specialist
11)QB (chances of finding a gem in late rds are slim.)

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Niners Likely to Dip Into Deep Pool of Running Backs | NBC Bay Area

ok, so if this years RB class is deep, makes it harder to re-sign Gore. Cause we might still get a good RB in the 5th or even 6th round? Those teams that draft a RB earlier, won't draft another.

Baalke will try to negotiate with Gore but the 49ers simply can't offer enough money. I'm not against re-signing Gore, but in the overall picture - draft and cap - just don't see it?

The other factor is of course Hyde, who has already shown he can play. Don't know if his blitz pick ups are consistent, but he can run and catch.

I don't know. It's certainly possible that a team like Indy or Baltimore could offer Gore a lot of money. But those teams are also going to look at the RB crop and think, "Maybe we should just draft a guy in the third or fourth." Gore has more value to the Niners - on the field and off it - than he does for most other teams. If a contender with a hole at RB offers him three years, $10+ million, then he's not coming back. If he's only getting one or two-year offers, I think there's a good chance he returns. Gore also knows that he's likely to remain the lead back if he comes back here. We're highly unlikely to use a first or second round pick on a RB. He may not have that promise elsewhere.

 

[purguy12]

I hope he comes back. I just hope they let Crabtree go and they don't sign him if he comes crawling back when he doesn't get the money that he wants. Time to move on from him. Draft DGB, White, or Parker and maybe sign a FA WR and let Johnson go. I hope we sign a CB that can help us. If Smith doesn't come back sign a DE that draws a double team or at least good at stopping the run.

 

[Pattersonca65]

I hope he comes back. I just hope they let Crabtree go and they don't sign him if he comes crawling back when he doesn't get the money that he wants. Time to move on from him. Draft DGB, White, or Parker and maybe sign a FA WR and let Johnson go. I hope we sign a CB that can help us. If Smith doesn't come back sign a DE that draws a double team or at least good at stopping the run.

I am concerned after resigning Crabtree he gets injured again, or maybe he is not the same after his Achilles injury. If he looks anything like last year, don't need him back.

 

[deep9er]

nowadays there are really good WR's hitting every draft, you could still get a "speedster" after round 1. He may not as good overall, but you'd at least have that deep speed covered.

with Boldin and Johnson under contract, we'll be fine without Crabtree. certainly disappointing for a #10 overall, but lets just look ahead. getting a rookie or two also sets up 2016 and beyond, when we won't have Boldin.

 

[Pattersonca65]

nowadays there are really good WR's hitting every draft, you could still get a "speedster" after round 1. He may not as good overall, but you'd at least have that deep speed covered.

with Boldin and Johnson under contract, we'll be fine without Crabtree. certainly disappointing for a #10 overall, but lets just look ahead. getting a rookie or two also sets up 2016 and beyond, when we won't have Boldin.

That's true. I am good with Boldin and Stevie Johnson assuming Johnson's knee injury has healed. Speedster is good if he can run good routes and get separation at the line of scrimmage. Hopefully the new coach will be better at developing WRs than the last one

 

[Gold Rush 86]

Ricky Jean Francois who was released by the Colts is set to meet with the 49ers and Redskins next week. I would like to have him back on the team. He could help us a lot at the DE position if Justin retires. This will give us some more depth at the D-Line position.

 

[deep9er]

Ricky Jean Francois who was released by the Colts is set to meet with the 49ers and Redskins next week. I would like to have him back on the team. He could help us a lot at the DE position if Justin retires. This will give us some more depth at the D-Line position.

that's fine but we already seem to have enough depth? what we don't know is if we have quality starters, more so if Justin retires?

BTW - my opinion is he will not retire. didn't read any problems he had with Tomsula, the D scheme is the same, and more importantly he'll be re-joined by healthy teammates. These healthy guys (Willis, Bowman, Dorsey, and Ian) are all quality vets. Aldon SHOULD be back to form too.

 

[Gold Rush 86]

that's fine but we already seem to have enough depth? what we don't know is if we have quality starters, more so if Justin retires?

BTW - my opinion is he will not retire. didn't read any problems he had with Tomsula, the D scheme is the same, and more importantly he'll be re-joined by healthy teammates. These healthy guys (Willis, Bowman, Dorsey, and Ian) are all quality vets. Aldon SHOULD be back to form too.

I would love for Justin to comeback and if he does I dont think we have to address the D-Line position in this years draft. We would have Justin, Dorsey, Tank, Ian, Dial and prolly TJE. TJE is a free agent but I think we can get him back easy for 500-600K for the season. Maybe Okoye if he can make the 53 man roster. To me he is one of the bubble players. If we get RJF back thats a 6-8 man rotation on the D-Line. I would be fine with this and it gives us depth so we can rotation players in and out to keep them healthy and fresh.

 

[deep9er]

I would love for Justin to comeback and if he does I dont think we have to address the D-Line position in this years draft. We would have Justin, Dorsey, Tank, Ian, Dial and prolly TJE. TJE is a free agent but I think we can get him back easy for 500-600K for the season. Maybe Okoye if he can make the 53 man roster. To me he is one of the bubble players. If we get RJF back thats a 6-8 man rotation on the D-Line. I would be fine with this and it gives us depth so we can rotation players in and out to keep them healthy and fresh.

I can see us keeping 6 DL, but over that places pressure on other spots? Granted, I didn't look up how many we started 2014 with?

the 3-4 requires more LB's, and then there is the injury potential at CB.

 

[Gold Rush 86]

I can see us keeping 6 DL, but over that places pressure on other spots? Granted, I didn't look up how many we started 2014 with?

the 3-4 requires more LB's, and then there is the injury potential at CB.

Last year we started the year with 7 on the D-Line Justin, Ray, Ian, TJE, Dial, Tank, Dobbs and Dorsey was on the PUP list. LBs we had 8 with Aldon suspended and Bowman on the PUP list. Our CBs we had 5 and Ward made 6.

 

[purguy12]

back up pan; if we dont sign gore why not pick up Bush. he would be a nice combo with hyde