Too early for trade rumors?

[stanford the manford]

@msgkings322

Where you plugged in to the White Sox fan base at the time of the White Flag trade? If the Giants did something similar, how would the Giants fan base react?

what giant fanbase

in our section, probably 80% season tix holders, seats are either empty or filled with visiting fans. hardcore will always show up. seats are so discounted you can get day of game lower box on the streets for $10. imo the ticket buying fanbase has already receded. fz needs to think about getting competitive on an ongoing basis.

this short term veteran thinking took 2.5 yrs off an inevitable rebuild, and in '20 they'll find themselves competing for the lucrative corporate $ with chase center. it won't get prettier with the status quo

dickerson and yaz have more folks excited than posey and panik.

once the giants field a team that competes with the dodgers, no one will care about who was dumped off the roster. posey, belt, panik, craw, longo, and the starting pitchers are not the lineup that challenges l.a.

 

[stanford the manford]

otoh i will say major roster additions are risky until bochy's replacement is known. fz would be well advised to make sure the roster matches the new manager's style

 

[Mays-Fan]

otoh i will say major roster additions are risky until bochy's replacement is known. fz would be well advised to make sure the roster matches the new manager's style

We're talking about baseball, not a Supreme Court appointment.

 

[jeep99tj]

otoh i will say major roster additions are risky until bochy's replacement is known. fz would be well advised to make sure the roster matches the new manager's style

Read on Bleacher Report that Raul Ibanez is the rumor now. Or I should say will be interviewed.

Dodgers' special assistant could replace Bochy as Giants manager, report says

 

[LHG]

...a space on the roster?

He was already off the roster. I assume that the Giants have to pay a slightly lower amount of his salary than if they just released him. I don't know if MLB requires a pro-rated amount of the minimum to be paid by a new team who picked him up as a free agent as I cannot remember how much the Giants had to pay Sandoval when get signed him after the Red Sox dumped him.
I just found the whole Holland for cash humorous when the Giants were sending a bunch of cash to the Cubs. Its like a realtor desperate to off load some old building so he agrees to cover the costs for most of the tenet improvements but the buyer has to give him some small amount of money to make the purchase look like a sell and not a gift.

 

[BeerMe]

what giant fanbase

in our section, probably 80% season tix holders, seats are either empty or filled with visiting fans. hardcore will always show up. seats are so discounted you can get day of game lower box on the streets for $10. imo the ticket buying fanbase has already receded. fz needs to think about getting competitive on an ongoing basis.

this short term veteran thinking took 2.5 yrs off an inevitable rebuild, and in '20 they'll find themselves competing for the lucrative corporate $ with chase center. it won't get prettier with the status quo

dickerson and yaz have more folks excited than posey and panik.

once the giants field a team that competes with the dodgers, no one will care about who was dumped off the roster. posey, belt, panik, craw, longo, and the starting pitchers are not the lineup that challenges l.a.

People aren’t excited about a clean up hitter that is hitting .258 with 5 homers and 28 RBI? Sometimes the truth hurts but I totally agree with you, it’s time to move on.

 

[stanford the manford]

People aren’t excited about a clean up hitter that is hitting .258 with 5 homers and 28 RBI? Sometimes the truth hurts but I totally agree with you, it’s time to move on.

honestly i'm just glad to see we have a hitter above .250.... it wasn't that long ago that a .250 giant was an oxymoron

 

[pachyderm]

I still think Zaidi doesn't want to be the guy who traded away Madbum... just saying.

 

[Mays-Fan]

I still think Zaidi doesn't want to be the guy who traded away Madbum... just saying.

Yup. Huge career risk. Trade of the year by far, probably trade of the decade. If he tanked a playoff contender by trading the best playoff pitcher IN HISTORY, and then the prospects we got turned out to be busts, he would forever be a laughingstock. He couldn't get a job as GM of a 7-11.

 

[calsnowskier]

Yup. Huge career risk. Trade of the year by far, probably trade of the decade. If he tanked a playoff contender by trading the best playoff pitcher IN HISTORY, and then the prospects we got turned out to be busts, he would forever be a laughingstock. He couldn't get a job as GM of a 7-11.

Why would he? To my knowledge he has zero experience in the food retail industry...

 

[Mays-Fan]

Why would he? To my knowledge he has zero experience in the food retail industry...

At least the Garlic Fries would be good.

 

[msgkings322]

Yup. Huge career risk. Trade of the year by far, probably trade of the decade. If he tanked a playoff contender by trading the best playoff pitcher IN HISTORY, and then the prospects we got turned out to be busts, he would forever be a laughingstock. He couldn't get a job as GM of a 7-11.

We're not a playoff contender. We're just not. No offense, not much starting pitching. You can't do anything in the playoffs with JUST a bullpen. In 2010, we had historically good SP to go with the very good bullpen.

 

[calsnowskier]

We're not a playoff contender. We're just not. No offense, not much starting pitching. You can't do anything in the playoffs with JUST a bullpen. In 2010, we had historically good SP to go with the very good bullpen.

And the offense was actually quite good. That gets lost because the first half numbers cloud the second half numbers, and the first half team was basically gone by the time the playoffs came around...

Molina replaced by Posey
Sandoval replaced by Uribe
Rowand, Bowker and Nate basically replaced by Burrell, Ross and Torres

 

[Mays-Fan]

We're not a playoff contender. We're just not. No offense, not much starting pitching. You can't do anything in the playoffs with JUST a bullpen. In 2010, we had historically good SP to go with the very good bullpen.

Please reconcile your statement with this:

 

[msgkings322]

Please reconcile your statement with this:

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You're better than this, aren't you?

 

[Mays-Fan]

You're better than this, aren't you?

Oh, I'm much, MUCH better than this.

Sorry I'm not stuck in the early season mindset that we are a team that hits to a .600 OPS and scores 2 runs a game.

 

[msgkings322]

Oh, I'm much, MUCH better than this.

Sorry I'm not stuck in the early season mindset that we are a team that hits to a .600 OPS and scores 2 runs a game.

Well, the team sure was in that mindset last night, and July 24, and July 21, and July 19, and July 18

The July numbers are inflated by one week in Milwaukee and Colorado and you know this, or should.

 

[calsnowskier]

Oh, I'm much, MUCH better than this.

Sorry I'm not stuck in the early season mindset that we are a team that hits to a .600 OPS and scores 2 runs a game.

But since 7/26, the Giants average only 2 runs a game...

 

[calsnowskier]

While I don’t trust a team that relies on Solano, Dickerson and Yastrzemski to carry the offensive load, 9 years ago, not many trusted a team that relied on Ross, Burrell, Huff and Torres either.

I do not trust this run. I have said it before, and I stand behind that statement. But we have seen this story before, and we all LOVED the outcome last time it played out.

 

[Mays-Fan]

Well, the team sure was in that mindset last night, and July 24, and July 21, and July 19, and July 18

The July numbers are inflated by one week in Milwaukee and Colorado and you know this, or should.

But since 7/26, the Giants average only 2 runs a game...